When players use Brandish line !? Don't friggin say AA this , AA that !? Even though they miss alot... Jeez, Players that doesn't have IQ at all....
AA Idiots !?!?
Has this been beaten to death yet?
I lost my cool with the help of my pal Sam Adams and was called out on it. Basically the best response that could have been given to me:
"It's that kind of attitude that really turns away the next generation of LD players"
or something like that
Man up and deal with it. Use it if ya want, or don't whatev. From personal experience - if you turn it off for a very long time then turn it on again, things start to get magical!
^
I could turn that around and say that AT ruins the next generation of LD players because they never knew better.
AT should just be banned for strikers with swords equipped. ..
I think Fall is complaining about false accusations of "AA".
^Correct me if I'm wrong, Fall. Your question marks are throwing me off.
Bleyu thinks he's complaining about whiny brandish users.
Blueflood's making some sort of PSA about AT usage.
Feyi thinks Blueflood is saying not using AT is ruining future generations.
Dragon wants to ban AT.
I'm making a completely irrelevant post expressing the absurdity of the situation.
''Bleyu thinks he's complaining about whiny brandish users.'' wtf??
"AT this!" "AT that!"
...SHUT UP ALREADY.
It's never going to get removed, deal with it, suck it up and find a way to counter it.
Lol that's coming from the guy that thinks the world is against him.
Can Seiran please make his way to node 99822 and make a thread summary, repeat, massive spillage of opinions in node 99822, thankyou.
You're not idiots, if you start ld, we can understand, if you use the AA for months / years, ... you are idiots!
Because you give yourself no challenge and no fun to play :)
I'd like to see Seiran make an attempt at comprehending the information of this thread. In fact, it'd be rather impressive!
This forum is full of tryhards and people who think they're "pro" because they scored over 40,000 useless points in a game.
No bra.. and ya Feyi I kinda agree with you. It's not the use or non-use of it that pushes people away or leaves the bad taste in your mouth after a match. I think it's just the pointing of the finger at "AA Noob" or "GF Spammer" or anything else that people try to classify others as. Don't get me wrong, certain things get under my skin for sure! As better players though the best philosophy is to stay silent and defeat the technique rather then lose your cool and give the match a bad vibe.
Thanks for understanding me !?! Unlike somebody here...
people complain and blaming other to hiding their own fail~
if mr.A die or get beaten alot by mr.B , mr.A going to search mr.B for some weapon or system which people always complain about it. all of this start from our veteran who not accept or don't want to deal with it... they spreading issue about this ??? stuff being overpowered, telling to friend, post in forum, blame people who use it in lockdown, and many more~ good job, our veteran who take ld too seerusly already ruined next generation in lockdown.
Starting from the fact that auto target was created when SK was only PVE, I can just say...
Don't blame players, blame OOO.
Don't you like autotarget? don't use it, but don't expect from others to do the same.
i blame player because they...
- can take a minigame as seerus match
- can make official option become bad setting
- can spread bad news
- can rage at other player
- can troll other player
- can scare new player
it seem some people in forum here want to take advantage if AT removed to get their own fun~ seerusly if someone say about non AT match is fun, it's a lie... no match without rage, fun only available for those who can screw other repeatedly, for most people who think win is good, for the one with high number, for those who not take ld too seerusly, and for those who don't really care about being screwed.
@Floerail
So you actually think it would be bad for the better player to win? Based god help me pls.
People use AA with brandishes? Using AA with brandishes feels too weird. Only time I use AA is with Hammer. And I don't even use the hammer unless my team is losing badly. And even then I don't use AA 100% of the time when those situations arise.
depend on what you think and depend on the player... can you give me example on what better player looks like?
Better player looks like Feyi and Retequizzle.
As for what Hellscream is saying, I agree completely. I hate seeing the "AA noob" everytime someone dies. It is being thrown around as an excuse for death now, regardless of whether or not it is actually used.
@Poothis
you're better off not using AT with the hammer, actually. Hammer gliding only happens with AT off; if you try to glide through a guard with AT on, you kind of stick the shield, and will more often than not end up dead. I love AT hammer users, because they are a sure kill for me. I'm terrified of hammergliders, because they cut through me like butter... nothing i can do about it.
If you were feeling truly devious, you could've not advised Poothis on AT and watched xyr stick to your shield.
It is being thrown around as an excuse for death now, regardless of whether or not it is actually used.
That's not anything new, it's been like that for years.
not sure about feyi~ but rete? it seem rete just one of them who play for damage and reputation, i respect skilled player with good connection to go easy on people rather than beat whole people up and scare them to make ld more haunted. because we have no newbie channel~ so newbie and veteran play in same map... ended with rage and fun.
for people who say AA noob, this is going to be more worst if people keep discussing it or not stop complain about it~
i see more badmouth since achy make ton of AT thread.
You can't expect people to aways hold back because they're better. There's no point in getting better in that case.
But I do agree with you that I'd like to see a training zone for newer people, so they can at least have some practice.
yea you right~ but i want to see them more on supporting and capping rather than beat whole people up and wait at base... one of three reason why ld have same face all days.
btw we already have training zone for newbie, tier 1 and tier 2 lockdown.. ohh waiit no one there.... nevermind~
I hate to break it to you, but Ret is very often taking it easy. Thing is, there's only so much you can dumb down your play. You want he should roll over and die for the new players? Not going to happen.
I'm a fair LD player, not great by any standard, but good enough to help a team, rather than hinder. I will never improve by beating up on new players, only by facing players who are more skilled than I. I don't want the better players to take it easy on me, I want them fighting me. Granted, LD should have better matchmaking systems, so that you don't have stacked teams, but until the rankings are fixed, not much you can do.
@Floerail
You can't consider T2 a training ground for T3, since it's a completely different meta and balance.
I'm talking something like the training hall.
@Perronius
i don't say he should die over to new player but more on something like bombing or something which is not beast family~
and go easy? then why he still fury mode when facing imbalance team? --a
not just rete, there more and it seem most of strong player i meet use AT ? -_-
@Feyi
ahh my bad~ i forget it was different --a
last time i play t1 and t2 was 2 year ago.. but suggest training lockdown is like suggesting new map for lockdown which is never happen, only few of suggestions which survive from reaper and the rest get buried in graveyard.
There are still plenty of similarities between the two. T2 is more forgiving and has less gear but the weapons are largely the same as in T3 in terms of mechanics, just less powerful. Same goes for the classes.
There are few hybrids very few bombers, gunners, and even hybrids in T2 last I checked. You won't be able to practice effectively, or learn how to deal with them that way.
It's also quite the shock when you're used to be able to take 8 hits, and then in T3 you're suddenly down in 3.
I'm not saying there are no similarities but you won't really be prepared that way.
Apparently, if you don't do 10k, you're a loser.
...oh sure why not :D /sarcasm
Also he (not naming and shaming) definitely deserved being reported for personal attacks.
^
The thread is complaining about how people who die [to brandish] instantly go to the "AT USER" excuse. It's annoying, but also unrelated to that damage situation.
I'd have to agree with Sportacus on that profile though. Yeah, he was whining and all, but then [Pommy Dragon] waltzes in putting off this "too-holy-for-this-trashy-experience" air (re-read it: "I'm just playing for that accursed Electron Vortex recipe...") then lowers himself to it and eggs the situation on further.
Also, lol @ mad Revans. So mad.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe you're solely talking about the players with brandishes whom click as fast as Sonic on 'roids, right...?
Pommy Dragon (now null.bat) is me, actually. I don't play SK through steam, but taking potshots at myself is fine, just keep it tongue-in-cheek. It's also sort of on-topic, not my fault I use an AAcheron. People actually call me an "at noob" when I play lockdown, and that's fairly accurate (minus the noob part).
@Sho-Marufuji:
Well, no, that's not really the problem from this thread.
The problem is the large amount of people who instantly shout "AT USER"/"AT NOOB" when they die. AT isn't the problem in Lockdown, the terrible losers (in the literal sense) are.
@Phantomhamachi:
I don't retract any of the statements. I've met similar people in-game who have complained about how bad of an experience they're having in lockdown and then contributed to the experience even more (because hey, I'm just in it for the coins so screw your fun, I'm gone when I finish this). It's unfortunate you ran into exactly the kind of losers that this thread was made to complain about, but you just can't convince them otherwise with logic, and certainly won't win any emotionally-led arguments with. Sorry :x
"terrible losers"
I wouldn't be one, as I always use /bow after a match.
But that's incredibly accurate. People need to suck it up and find a way around brandish line users. The most simply one would be AP/Sentenza/Carbine switchspam locking which is incredibly effective at locking enemies down (mind the pun) so you can easily kill them.
A Driver also ruins their day. So does a Valiance.
If you can aim of course. If you can't, Polaris is your best bet. If you don't have a Polaris, pray that Retequizzle is on your team.
Compaints exist in every a game..I complain too and i hate after...
The solution is one.Enjoy the game if u dont, stop playing it.
Plus if u cant find a tactic against something and the only thing u do is complaining then i dont know who is the idiot.
Ps.I never use AA cause i enjoy better without it..If someone wants to use it ok..
This is one of those threads I ignore because everyone just dumps out the same opinions every time and forgets the thread even exists after a week.
I'm semi-decent AT Recon (see what I did there)
If I'm not being called an "AA Noob" for taking out one of the opposition, I'm being called a "Recon Coward" . . . Who gives a flying french crépe!
Nothing beats death marking and taking out the same idiots that keep making excuses for dying. . . . and then thanking them politely for stopping the momentum of my DA with thier face :-)
That's because brandish users usually play with AT and if you kill them with brandish, they will complain like that