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Mar, 05/01/2012 - 07:59
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Metagenic

So my friend, his guildmates, and I might head out on a Shadow Lair Snarbolax run in ten days. Seeing as I usually solo and build my loadouts around solo play, I want to see if I'm ready to play in a team.

Weapons (weapon alignment: swordsman)

Combuster (main dps weapon)
Final Flourish (for the wolvers and Snarbies)
Voltaic Tempest (limited crowd control capability, AOE damage effect, disables kats)
Polaris (turret suppression and knockback when I need it)

Alternatives

Shivermist Buster (more crowd control than Voltaic Tempest)
Argent Peacemaker (less team-annoying sidearm)
Divine Avenger (possible replacement for Combuster)

Armor: Skolver Cap, Vog Cub Coat [Skolver is fine, should I trade out the Vog Cub piece for something else?]

Shield: Barbarous Thorn Shield or Dread Skelly Shield [which one would be better overall?]

Trinkets: Elite Sword Focus Module, Elite Quick Strike Module

Mar, 05/01/2012 - 08:22
#1
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Orbwanter
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You're pretty set, although another piece of Skolver or some shadow armor would be better than the Vog coat. Shiver vs. Voltaic is personal preference. Dread Skelly's the safer choice over Barbarous Thorn Shield, but if you're comfortable fighting Kat swarms and Howlitzers with BTS then either works.

Mar, 05/01/2012 - 08:30
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Narfle
I'd recommend Combuster over

I'd recommend Combuster over DA, Shiv over VT, and Dread Skelly over BTS. Unless you have an asi UV on your DA, it's probably going to be a bit too slow to deal with some of the larger, faster mobs. Similarly, without shock resist, it's easy to get shocked in the middle of a big mob if you're using the VT--although the attack interrupt from the VT would be better for the Kats if everyone does happen to have shock resist. The Combuster's charge can, of course, negate the Shiv's freeze, but you'll likely be using it more to clear Zoms anyway, which are easy to dodge. As far as the shields go, you'll mostly be using it to field Howlitzer bullets, which can take out a BTS in a few hits if you're not careful--if you're good at dodging it might not matter, but there will be a lot of bullets flying around.
Also, and this is a minor thing, but shadow snarby is where the R.Silvermail really shines (no pun intended) if you happen to have it, since the bonus against undead will apply to your non-sword weaps.

Mar, 05/01/2012 - 09:38
#3
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Bopp
largely agree

I largely agree with the other responders. Combuster is great, but I might prefer DA in SGWW, because its wide, long swing lets you hit crowds of undead, and SGWW is pretty crowded with undead. The rest of your weapons are great --- pretty much ideal. For shields, I would go with Skelly, because there are a lot of howlitzer projectiles, and you don't have any shadow armor.

Mar, 05/01/2012 - 10:06
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Nordlead
If your group is aggressive,

If your group is aggressive, then your loadout is fine since you won't be conflicting with other players in your group (so if someone else insists on dropping shivs, your VT and combuster are only going to interfere). I prefer an aggressive loadout and brought something very similar (traded the polaris for a DBB).

Personally, I dread playing with people who shiv everything, because it completely locks monsters in place and I can't push them back with my attacks or shield until the mist goes away. So a 3-hit combo from a combuster no longer tosses them out of range for a counter attack. This doesn't happen nearly as much with VT since you are only limited when they are experiencing a shock spasm. VT also works awesome on kats, which is the main reason I brought mine. I really wanted someone to bring Ash of Agni so we can go crazy with the status bombs, but the other guy didn't want to.

You can't get shocked from monsters you apply shock to (I've never seen it happen once in all my time of using VT in pretty much everywhere), so I'm not sure what narfle is getting at with lacking shock resist.

Also, so you know, with mist bombs you really need a CTR Med UV or trinket or you'll have a hard time using it outside of pre-placement.

For armor, you really want to trade that vog out for something with pierce, or shadow protection. If you can also get poison resistance, that would be a bonus (less decrease in defense/attack and less time affected).

For the shield it is a toss up. If you are the primary offense sworder, then BTS. It'll also hold up better at the boss. If you are more concerned about staying alive prior to the boss, or you are the howlitzer tanker, then go with skelly. When I went, I made my brother (who has skelly) tank all the howlitzers so I wouldn't be bothered with them (with my BTS).

Mar, 05/01/2012 - 10:33
#5
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Narfle
I've been shocked several

I've been shocked several times by people dropping a VT in a big mob--going in for a charge attack to take something out, it spasms, there you go. Also seen people shocked by critters they themselves have previously shocked. Just my opinion, Nord.

Mar, 05/01/2012 - 11:03
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Juances
~

....What? I use VT all the time and I never get shocked back. neitehr do my allies. The only exception are mechakngihts since they have that random shortcircuit mixed in.

Mar, 05/01/2012 - 11:08
#7
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Narfle
Clearly someone is doing it wrong

Every time it's happened, whether to me or to someone else in the party, it was with Nord's guildies--ask them. I don't have a VT.

Mar, 05/01/2012 - 13:13
#8
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Theirillusion
hi ho

im confused, have you soloed UGWW (ultimate gloaming wild woods) or what? o.O

if yes, you can advise ppl, not take advise from ppl.

anyway gl

Mar, 05/01/2012 - 14:01
#9
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Dukeplatypus
I tend to prefer stagger

I tend to prefer stagger storm as the mist bomb of choice there.

Mar, 05/01/2012 - 15:49
#10
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Mcvillain
http://wiki.spiralknights.com

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Shock

If you read the entry on shock, you'll see that the status can be transferred to allies. If you haven't gotten shocked yet, then you're probably lucky. Anyway, can't all statuses can be passed from monsters back to players?

Mar, 05/01/2012 - 16:58
#11
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Halandin
Actually, I think only shock

Actually, I think only shock is transferable to others, and only on the "ticks" of shock I believe. The other statuses are continuous, so dropping an Ash of Agni would be more dangerous for you than the monsters if you could catch fire from them (barring oilers). :D

Mar, 05/01/2012 - 21:08
#12
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Fradow
Was it when fighting

Was it when fighting Mechaknights ? Because those guys can shock you with a special ability.

As far as I know, Juances is right, shock is not transferrable from mobs to you.

For the OP, weapon choices :
- both Combuster and DA are fine, but in those rooms with lots of bullets, you won't be charging a lot. DA seems better to me here.
- I particulary like VT against those kats. It totally prevents them from attacking. Shiver is better against wolvers though.
- I'll take Polaris any day in shadow lair. The reason is to silence turrets. Less bullets flying = less dangerous place.

Mié, 05/02/2012 - 08:07
#13
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Narfle
*shrug*

All I know is that it's happened to me multiple times, not from mechknights. Last time it happened was maybe a week ago, last room of 26 in FSC--teammate was using an EV to round up the Zoms while the rest of us batted them down. A Zom flew out, shocked, and spasmed when I moved in to finish him off = passed shock to me, and I was stuck kiting/shielding for quite a while. There's nothing in that room that can shock you, and no mechs--only a teammate with an EV and another with a voltedge.
@OP: disregard my advice, clearly this only happens to me. Too much iron in my diet.

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