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Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:43
Kraanx's picture
Kraanx

Sup dawgs, its me again with more troika ranting, err, suggesting. right, here we go:

1- troika in comparison
we know that the troika recently got a lot stronger(at least after the nerf when they upgraded her to 5* versions ¬¬), but even so it seems like theres still something missing in here. the troika is the only non-boss reward heavy sword, and the only one that deals pure normal damage as well,regarding the ones that can reach 5* (except for SS, but lets leave that alone).

1.2- neutral dmg suggestion
Why make her so weak? sure, she's a little better, but doesnt the flourish itself, in comparison to the snarble barb, have the same COMBO attack stats? heres my suggestion on this one: make neutral damage on combo regarding DA, GF, triglav and suda equal (or perhaps a lil bit higher for the troika side). also, since WRH and family are p2p and SK staff need to eat, lets leave them alone. it wont change MUCH, since the troika is slower than these, and usually GF and DA are situational swords,( you probably wont use a DA against a gremlin, and since it would do roughly the same ammount of dmg against a slime, DA/gf users wouldnt care ).

2- about them statuses.
the only heavy swords that can inflict statuses are the GF, triglav and sudaruska. still, the sudaruska and GF have fair chances, and triglav has worse than these. WHY? CAUSE ITS FREEZE?! curse is much more powerful than freeze, therefore making all of these equal and have fair chances of status will not change almost nothing at all (remember, DA, GF and WRH are preferred over troika, no one will care and say the troika is op, specially cuz all it would do would be balance)

i am out of time now, but later i will add new suggestions to this...

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:16
#1
Tsubasa-No-Me's picture
Tsubasa-No-Me
Herp a derp

Not really Downing, just pointing some things out...

The DPS (Really, not just the damage #'s) should be say... 10% higher then a DA or GF on neutral.

GF can curse SELF on charge, and takes CRAZY long to charge in the first place.

Triglav gets STRONG freeze. (Compared to the Suda's Moderate) Not to mention that it still gets a status on the normal combo... which I suspect is the culprit behind the slow swing speed of that 2nd hit.

Out of the Triokas, the Suda is still the worse off of the two. IMO it needs strong stun, as well as stun to be fixed/DA swing speed on 2nd.

SUUUDAAAAAAAAAARUUUUSSKAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
~Tsu

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 11:09
#2
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Bisento
Triggy needs love

I will +1 to Triglav/Suda getting damage equal to DA/GF neutral damage.

Triglav's freeze is ok as is I think. It doesn't happen often but it works. But Suda could use the Strong stun to make the statuses between the two even.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 11:45
#3
Kraanx's picture
Kraanx
MOAR STUFFZ 3- about that

MOAR STUFFZ

3- about that thunder troika...
im neutral on this one. yeah, itll be pretty nice if we had one, but im not dying for it. name suggestions? im not sure, it might have a name
already.....moderate shock, if possible, cuz shock is stornger than stun/freeze (i believe)

4- speed should stay as it is, the troika is too big to be faster than DA/GF(they arent heavy anway...).

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 17:18
#4
Kraanx's picture
Kraanx
5-nice names for the thunder

5-nice names for the thunder troika?
haz to be cool to say and hard to pronounce, example:
Sjok 3*(shock in norwegian) lynnedslag 4* (lighting or thunderbolt in norwegian) Thordenvaer 5* (thunderstotm in norwegian).

6-awkward as it may seem, i'd like to ask for more non-boss/p2p heavy swords. to make a sort of balance between them.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 03:23
#5
Trabias's picture
Trabias
I've got an idea !

You know arkus right ?
The Dude you have to fight in the Silent legion ?
His blade looks similar to a Levitian Blade but has a heavy weapon attack pattern and the troika's charge attack but with no explosions
Why don't OOO add a third line to the calibur line , and add the heavy-weapon-that-arkus-uses to that line !
I dunno what kinds of powers we can add to it ...
any ideas ?

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 22:41
#6
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
Peoples...

Shock Troika already has a name. It's either "Gram" or "Ideal Sword". (Yeah I lol'd when I saw that)

Hope I don't get murdered for revealing that...

Oh, and here's a better image of the Fallen Calibur:
http://i.imgur.com/eCfhr.png

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 02:45
#7
Kraanx's picture
Kraanx
dat levi seems quite

dat levi seems quite sexy....
i wonder what its charge attack will be, since arkus has 2-3 different types

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 06:44
#8
Trabias's picture
Trabias
Ahem

Kraanx , have you seen nuqual's video on the level , the silent legion ? go search for it his attack is just
a downward blow like the troika but no boom-boom stuff.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 06:50
#9
Trabias's picture
Trabias
http://www.youtube.com/watch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIPLAOuiqt8
From the video , in his last stage , arkus's 3 stage charge has a lighting bolt and crystals come out from the ground.
maybe implement that ?

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 11:41
#10
Kraanx's picture
Kraanx
that was what i was talking

that was what i was talking aboit, but dont you think it'd be juuust a lil OP'?

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 20:25
#11
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
Wait a minute...the crystals

Wait a minute...the crystals sticking in the ground reminds me of the Tortodrone...

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 23:45
#12
Kraanx's picture
Kraanx
oh no....not the speculation

oh no....not the speculation again, please, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
heh, true story though.

Mon, 05/07/2012 - 06:52
#13
Trabias's picture
Trabias
What about the charge

What about the charge inflicting piercing damage and no lighting ? good idea ?

Mon, 05/07/2012 - 07:17
#14
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
Errr what? The only normal

Errr what? The only normal damage weapon that deals piercing on its charge is The Ban Stick. And that's because it counts as an spike trap x 500 on a stick.

If the Shock troika was made available to regular players, it would carry on like the Sudaruska and the Triglav and be normal damage + chance of shock.

Mon, 05/07/2012 - 07:19
#15
Mk-Vl's picture
Mk-Vl
Shameless self-thread promotion.

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/52323

Mon, 05/07/2012 - 09:52
#16
Kraanx's picture
Kraanx
XD BURN, MK-VI

XD
BURN, MK-VI

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