I think that an addition of a new damage type is something that could really change the game for better. I do not come up with a suggestion what would it be - holy, slashing, blunt, sexy, pony, rage - honestly! The type is not the subject here!
My point is that it would be followed by completely new monsters, weaknesses, weapons etc.
This is something much more motivating then new accessories.
Do you think it is possible?
How do you think it would affect the game and the market?
New element/damage - this game needs one. I suppose.
Mié, 05/23/2012 - 04:24
Mié, 05/23/2012 - 06:00
#2
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Overall, it would involve far too much work with far too little gain for the developers. They'd have to re-distribute weaknesses/strengths, create a whole new monster line, weapon series (animation, visual and attack graphics included for both) etcetcetc
The most they'd get out of it would be 'oh that looks new'. No profit, no player satisfaction, anything.
"A whole array of lasers, laser shields, bombs, autosensing laser drones, laser turrets could be added."
The only way any of those would work would either make it OP or completely useless in terms of it's use, or it becoming like already existing gear.
Mié, 05/23/2012 - 06:41
#3
Psychodestroyer
Gee... thanks. Inspiring. Enjoy your 6th elemental gun and 3rd dark sword.
We could have actually different weapons, not only another elemental shield, but this time it is dark/elemental and it protects you from stun...
Mié, 05/23/2012 - 07:22
#4
Hurr
Psychodestroyer is pointing out how unnecessary and overcomplicated this would be.
We want new mechanics, not "look at this other stuff with no detail". Dziurka appears unwilling and/or incapable of offering anything original other than laser guns which are nowhere near an original idea for this game.
Mié, 05/23/2012 - 08:37
#5
@Emlotargh
@Emlotargh
Elemental damage are damage done by energy, so lasers have to deal elemental damage. That's why Prismatech Alchemer does elemental damage. Actually lasers are iconic for elemental damage, I could hardly imagine anything more appropriate.
@Dziurka
I gueass you're new here. Weapons differ not only by damage, but mostly by combos length, mechanics etc. Damage is just one of several parameters. I have 4 elemental handguns and every of them behave differently and is suitable for different situation. Likewise I have 3 shadow handguns and 2 piercing handguns and 3 normal handguns - but each of them is different and has its purpose. If you think that Argent Peacemaker, Polaris and Nova Driver are alike only because they deal the same type of damage you're totally wrong.
Also different weapons deal different statuses, but that's another story.
I'd rather focus on new weapon types in every category (sword/handgun/bomb) and introducing new mechanics, like multi-charging, then new damage types.
Mié, 05/23/2012 - 08:56
#6
I will make this short and
I will make this short and sweet.
If they made a new damage type, they would have to add at least FOUR, yes, FOUR monster families, 2 to be resistant to it and 2 to be weak to it. It simply won't happen any time soon, and is unnecessary. The current damage types are fine.
Have a nice day.
Mié, 05/23/2012 - 09:00
#7
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Everypony crushed my dreamz. My dreeeamz!!!! :(
/thread
Mié, 05/23/2012 - 09:07
#8
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" not only another elemental shield, but this time it is dark/elemental and it protects you from stun..."
Thsi shows how ignorant you are... split special defenses are usually bad and a few people rarely uses them n general, except for very specific situations, while stun is a meaningless status :p
Sure we dont have one yet... but thats because we dont need it anwyays.
Mié, 05/23/2012 - 10:39
#9
Um, hate to say it, but this
Um, hate to say it, but this really won't go very well. If I am right, these are the definitions of the different status types:
Normal: well, just slashes ans booms and weird, energy things. Nothing special.
Elemental: Pure energy/electricity/plasma and holy/magical attacks.
Piercing: Um, kinda obvious. Stab stab poke poke
Shadow: Arcane, evil, and overall mean energies. You know, a lot of games have something like this.
You see, there isn't much room for more. Most other types of things could be classified as something here. Even if there was another type that isn't around, it would take a serious amount of work to implement, maybe even throwing away some current things. Because of this, it would have been better to suggest this earlier then now in the game's life. Sorry!
Mié, 05/23/2012 - 11:05
#10
@Dziurka"Everypony crushed
@Dziurka
"Everypony crushed my dreamz. My dreeeamz!!!! :("
Oh well, you can always suggest NEW STATUSES ;-)
Rage sounds like status already, I guess holiness could be made a status too. Actually I don't see why positive statuses (buffs) shouldn't be introduced.
EDIT:
@Autofire
Biotech Hahn would kill you for mentioning magic. Magic exists only in fairy tales ;-)
Elemental stands for injuries caused by non-material meaning like energy or thermal damage.
Shadow stands for injuries caused by dark forces of the underworld, radiation and anti-matter.
Mié, 05/23/2012 - 11:43
#11
Kill?
Merethif, Merethif...
I must say I'm a little disappointed that you would put me on the same level as the savage creatures that inhabit Cradle. Kill Autofire? I would never kill anyone if I knew there was an opportunity for me to reeducate them first.
That being said, the points you and Autofire made mostly represent my own views on this topic. As I'm sure you all know, I've done extensive research (for which I feel I should really be given more recognition, but that's beside the point) in regards to Cradle's diverse fauna, and the damage types related to said fauna. It is unfathomable (a word which, coming from me, might as well read "impossible") that another damage type could exist. Things that pierce other things do Piercing damage. Things whose strength comes from dark energy do Shadow damage. Things whose strength comes from any other type of non-material energy (including light, of course) do Elemental damage. Things whose strength comes from blunt force do Normal damage.
Magic? What you mean to say is energy, and as such this falls under Elemental.
Holiness? Again, Elemental.
Slashing? A cleverly disguised form of blunt force. Normal.
Sexy? Shadow, without question.
Rage? Emotions do not cause damage. As Merethif said, this would be considered a status affliction.
Now that we've gotten this all cleared up, I'm signing off.
-Hahn.
Mié, 05/23/2012 - 20:54
#13
@Merethif Can we have Sexy as
@Merethif Can we have Sexy as a status too?
@Biotech-Hahn-Clone What would Pony damage be? Normal?
Mié, 05/23/2012 - 21:57
#15
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Looks like I don't really have to say more here, but...
Did someone say something about 'crushed dreamz'?
Oh foo.
Mié, 05/23/2012 - 22:08
#16
D8
How did I miss that? As founder of the guild <Crusher of Dreams>, I hang my head in shame...
Jue, 05/24/2012 - 02:15
#17
The conclusion!
The community (read: me) demands the following:
-positive statuses (buffs) - this is something that everypony would be interested with!
-sexy status - duh! I want to be finally recognized! (ok - this one is not mandatory)
-rage status - berserk? Why - of course! A positive/negative status it is!
Thanks for straightening my thinking fillies and gentlecolts :3
EDIT: And my Argent peacemaker/Sentenza charged attacks fire ponies, not some burdz. True story :3
Jue, 05/24/2012 - 02:20
#18
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"Argent peacemaker/Sentenza charged attacks fire ponies.
Radiant sunshards do elemental damage, really that and prismatic alchemers etc should do LIGHT damage.
A whole array of lasers, laser shields, bombs, autosensing laser drones, laser turrets could be added.