Spiral Knights - Sealed Arsenal PvP

Sealed Arsenal PvP

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Mié, 05/23/2012 - 11:34

Gwenyvier

First off, I will admit that this idea is taken from TCGs and Guild Wars. It works rather well in both, and I can see it doing well here if implemented correctly.

The premise is fairly simple. You click the Tier you want to join since which you end up in is not based on your gear or loadouts (neither are used) you spawn in basic Proto gear and you can look through your arsenal to see what you have to use.

Gear is random and level 10, no UVs, no Trinkets. All tiers also get a full set of level 10 Proto gear... if you decide you want to use it more (or less) power to you.
Tier 1 gets all 1* items. 7 weapons (2 guaranteed swords, 1 gun, 1 bomb), 2 helms and 2 armors.
Tier 2 gets all 3* items. 19 weapons (3 guaranteed sword, 3 gun, 3 bomb), 7 helms, 7 armors.
Tier 3 gets all 5* items plus RSS and Ionized Salt Bomb. 19 weapons (3 guaranteed sword, 3 gun, 3 bomb), 12 helms and 12 armors.

You get your gear at the start of the match and can equip what you like. ALL gear can show up so even if you don't have OCH you can still end up with the hammer or DR, same for Static Flash. (Note to OOO, good way to get people that don't have them to want to buy them). Gear can be swapped out in the locker room or while you are dead and waiting to respawn. Otherwise it is the exact same as LD.

I thought it would make an interesting change of pace, and as I said I've seen it implemented effectively before. It would also give all the people that want vanilla LD to show their skill (plus a little luck).

Oh, and just for reference the tiers have the following equips, all are 1*, 3*, or 5* with noted exceptions.
Tier 1 has: 9 swords, 4 guns, 3 bombs, 5 helms, 4 armor
Tier 2 has: 16 swords, 15 guns, 13 bombs, 16 helms, 15 armor
Tier 3 has: 19 swords, 17 guns, 12 bombs (plus RSS and Ionized Salt Bomb), 31 helms, 31 armor

~Gwen

Mié, 05/23/2012 - 11:37

Golgomath

Instead of the gear being

Instead of the gear being random, why not have a random set of gear from which you can pick and choose your loadout.

This seems similar to this: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Battle_Frontier_(Generation_IV)#Battle_Factory

Mié, 05/23/2012 - 11:43

Juances

No trinkets? I mean you could throw the basic (non-krogmo) ones there.

Mié, 05/23/2012 - 11:46

Schattentag

Mangoes, papayas, and anything your heart desires...

Wonderful, isn't it?

Mié, 05/23/2012 - 11:53

Juances

If you read both ideas, you'll notice they are slightly different.

Mié, 05/23/2012 - 12:13

Gwenyvier

Lol, seems I'm not the first

Lol, seems I'm not the first to post the idea. Still, they're slightly different (admittedly not much). And would be interesting if either got used.

~Gwen

Mié, 05/23/2012 - 12:23

Schattentag

blarg

I'm leaning toward Kentard's "complete randomness" idea, personally. I'm just following the huge assumption that if people are given any choice, they'll flock toward the more commonly used equipment sets (e.g. toothpick+Skolver) when they're available.

However, that's not to say this idea is without merit. People will probably get bored of the same loadouts, and they'll have specific things they'll want to try out. Unlike Kentard's idea, this one will provide people the opportunity to do that.

Side note: i herd u liek sords...
"Tier 3 has: 19 sword, 17 sword, 12 bomb"

Mié, 05/23/2012 - 12:29

Gwenyvier

Side note: i herd u liek

Side note: i herd u liek sords...
"Tier 3 has: 19 sword, 17 sword, 12 bomb"

Fixed!!! Thanks.

~Gwen

Mié, 05/23/2012 - 13:01

Njthug

Hmm seems a bit more fun than

Hmm seems a bit more fun than regular LD, but not I'm not sure if many people will do this only considering the crazy amounts people spent in gear already. I personally, would enjoy this though shows true skills tbh.

Mié, 05/23/2012 - 13:24

Tsubasa-No-Me

Yep,

I agree with this... then We'll have Actual SKILL happening...

Example... I was playing LD earlier today, and one fellow was scoring ~20k every round. I looked, and this is what I saw:

Skolver
ASI Max BTB
GF

He also had incredibly good ping.

When talking to another, less fortunate clone during the game, he said, (Paraphrasing) "Its all about Gear and Ping!" "I just close my eyes and click, lol"

So yeah, that's JUST what happens. I watched this guy over many games and saw stuff. He used the combo almost always, and maybe once a minute he'd shield cancel ONCE to send the final blow ONLY to a particularly dodgy Bomber. (Me with ISB) Only Once did he ever pull out that GF, and that was an accident after being shocked and coming after me in a blind rage.

That is Not skill at all, but it IS effective. It fills LD with Clones and noobs. Who, if you EVER take away what gives them an edge, will die horribly.

I 137% support the OP. Then Its random, you can get lucky, is more balanced, and the exposure to different weapons will cause many to go out and craft them.

I'd make it Rank accessible though, Its not a wise idea to have New players get pwned in T3 LD. Also, I'd Put it next to the original LD, calling it free for all and ranked respectively.

"Sure, I guess I can help, but first, smash."
~Tsu

Mié, 05/23/2012 - 13:33

#10

Gwenyvier

Good idea on the Rank

Good idea on the Rank accessible. Having to be T2 or T3 would greatly help on people not know what the heck is going on getting smashed to bits.

~Gwen

Mié, 05/23/2012 - 18:19

#11

The-Avvesome-Hero

As long as

there are random rounds thrown in where everyone only has iron slugs and proto armour I'm in. And if there are no classes.

Mié, 05/23/2012 - 18:33

#12

Luguiru

Free for all

Bombs everywhere forever.

Mié, 05/23/2012 - 18:53

#13

Jaroche

OOO doesn't want you to have

OOO doesn't want you to have fun for free, you must spend 100k ce to get it. Noble idea, but I doubt they're going to consider this, especially seeing the max uv prices.

Jue, 05/24/2012 - 01:47

#14