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Thu, 05/24/2012 - 15:35
Incendere's picture
Incendere

First of I woud like to say Spiral Knights is awesome but it needs allot of work for it to be the best.
These are my suggestions for the game:

Bombs need change so that they have a non charged attack. This means smaller bombs similar to grimlin bombs when not charging. Of course damage would be minute but they would help keep enemy at bay. More details later.

Dash attacks for all weapons and types.

Damage bonus for Heavy armors. Volcanic Plate mail should have a Medium fiend damage bonus, and Iron might needs a medium beast damage bonus. In all this will make the armor a plausable choice for use.

Equiptment like armor and shields that only have normal defence beyond being 4 Stars must be given a second defence type.

Sparing Areas in advanced training hall, and guild halls. These areas would and will be limited in the number of players participating at a time by having hollow doors that act similar if not exactily like the ones that restrict players from carying totums in or out of an area. After two or a limit of players are in the area they may test ones knowlege and abilities against others. Players in the areas that fall will be teleported outside the wring to prevent abuse.

PvP needs a complete revamp, removing Classes from Lockdown and power ups from Blast network. What I have found is that both Lockdown and Blastnetwork suck. Lockdown continuesly gets patched and blastnetwork gets very low traffic. I have found the problems are class and power ups balance issues. More than removing classes for lockdown I want to change the way they fit into the game as powerups. What I thought up is to have reward powerups per capture and kill. By removing classes all players now have shield options. The reward would be attack and charge boosts. Most boosts that can be given trough trinkets. They would be obtained one at a time randomly. Every boost gives a verylow otr low depending on the powerup. They then stack for every one collected. There would be a limit to four types and a limit to three per type. All are lost at death unless NRg revive is used.
to be continued...

Add fees to redue completed missions. It is only fair to do so if not completely denying entry at all. The fee would be similar to entering a arcade level without passing previous tiers. 200cr and 400cr fees depending on the tier. This would not include halls or prestige missions.

Add new CE generating System. This System will be to reduce groing prices of CE in the market. Unlike trading in the market generating CE this way is slightly harder and time consuming. Mist energy can be traded for CE by conversion in special machines. I have many different ideas to do this. the first is to have 100 mist energy tradeable for 10 ce thought machines that would also require certain amount of crowns. Similar to the last, special items like Materials or crystals would be fused to make CE through a machine. The next is complex and it is to have players buy items that are found at crossroad areas that can be bought (4000cr for example) then exchanged in heaven later for CE. There is a limit to the amount that can be bought, lets say five. To complete that transaction one does not need to have full mist bars. One simply goes to trade the mist one has for CE though an Ai or machine. I would like the first idea to be added to the game. It is alot more balanced.

Make Recipes one time use. This would be to reduce market abuse.

Make materials harder to obtain. Similar to Items during clockworks levels Materials should be limited to what types of materials are gathered by making it that materials are placed on one of the four slots that are now occupied only by items. However, Mats will not to be limited in the amount of the type collected. One must carefully select the items and mats that will be carried. After every elevator, collected mats will be erased from the list of items allowing more mats to be collected every level. the collected Mats will be sent to haven and recieved only after leaving or completing a level. Those mats not sent to heaven by elevator will be lost. I am sure it would be an improvement to make gathering materials a true feat.

Not complete more details later.

Thu, 05/24/2012 - 15:42
#1
The-Ark's picture
The-Ark
In descending order...

No

No

Maybe

That would be alright.

No

No

NO

NO

No

That is basically the response your going to get from most people. Oh, and the your title makes you sound EXTREMELY selfish.

Thu, 05/24/2012 - 15:44
#2
Incendere's picture
Incendere
...

Sorry sir this wasn't ment for you. It is ment for the developers so do you mind telling me how to contact them?

Its not like you can help me or something. Unless you work with the devs in OOO. Other than that I wasn't asking for an opinion. Its a demand from a paying customer.

Thu, 05/24/2012 - 15:51
#3
The-Ark's picture
The-Ark
Ummm, this is a FORUM. You

Ummm, this is a FORUM. You put your suggestions here in order to GET opinions. And if nobody commented it would drop off the front page and nobody would see it anyway. Plus it is know the devs read the forums anyway.

Thu, 05/24/2012 - 16:06
#4
Kraanx's picture
Kraanx
u rly think the devs are

u rly think the devs are gonna make SK better for YOU? good luck with that. the only good thing in there is the plate mail idea. the rest is just ecto-drops

Thu, 05/24/2012 - 16:18
#5
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
LOLOLOLOL you gonna get yo

LOLOLOLOL you gonna get yo [cogs] knocked OUT. No to everything.

Leave now, they will never cater to 1 person, unless of course you work for them, or pay them four million dollars.

BUH BYE!

Thu, 05/24/2012 - 16:23
#6
Mindspark's picture
Mindspark
1. No. It can easily be

1. No. It can easily be exploited to spam minute bombs in milliseconds, causing continuous damage in the area and can be used in Lockdown to protect a Control point and no one can touch it. Ways to make it atleast less exploitable: takes time to set down the bombs (obviously), can only do it in a three combo, similar to swords and guns (Not neccesarily restricted to three.)

2. No. I like some weapons that I can stay stationary without charging forward. It wouldn't make much sense for bombs and guns. Possibly explain it better to clarify if I have the right idea.

3. Perhaps. It would be useful for some armors, just perhaps tone down some of the bonuses so it won't be too overly easy.

4. It would be fun I suppose. Perhaps have a special area dedicated to it with enterances marked with force fields. Once you pass a force field, your knight automatically equips your weapons and a health bar appears. Free for all I guess. (clarify what tier it would be.)

5. NO! NO! NO! GOD NO! Changing game types already will cause so much outrage. If you want to do that,don't change game types. Make new ones.

6. Why make something payable when it is already free? So: No. (According to your title, how does that benefit you?)

7. No. That'll destroy the CE market. People who actually put CE into the market will feel ripped off and quit. That'll make OOO lose alot of money.

8. NO! How does this benefit you? It would destroy the Auction House!

9. NO! That'll destroy the Auction House!

Sorry, but I have to agree with Gingermace. The title makes you seem selfish (although some of these "improvements" can't benefit you at all) and most of these are pretty terrible.

Thu, 05/24/2012 - 16:26
#7
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
In walrus order

Bombs had the ability to attack without the charge a while ago. It will never happen again unless all bombs have a significant damage reduction of more than half.

Dash attacks are uncommon for a reason.

Giving damage buffs to Plate lines defeats the purpose of being a melee tank.

Training hall or see past discussions.

If they removed classes from Lockdown it would just be the original player versus player minigame but more dependent on how much the user can spend on UVs than it currently does.

Creating a fee for mission replaying has been discussed and defeated.

Crystallized energy is not supposed to regenerate.

They want the user of a recipe to be able to craft more often, meaning they spend more CE, meaning more money for Three Rings.

Certain materials are more difficult to obtain than others.

"Sorry sir this wasn't ment for you. It is ment for the developers so do you mind telling me how to contact them? Its not like you can help me or something. Unless you work with the devs in OOO. Other than that I wasn't asking for an opinion. Its a demand from a paying customer."

As seen above, this is a forum; anyone expecting not to be responded to should not be here to begin with.

All of these are either selfish, already defeated, or are based on little to no competence in how the game works; only the training hall expansion would even be somewhat accepted even though it has been discussed already.

The point is not to help you, it is to refine the thread. Administrators normally do not post in this forum unless misconduct occurs.

Opinions are like onions; the more you peel into it, the worse the stench. Arguments should not be opinion based though most users around here will do so because they want to and everything everyone else does is wrong according to their "logic".

The community does not "demand" anything in this forum unless there is a technical problem, in which case it is in the wrong forum.

Unless someone can prove points against this thread wrong, move this thread to the graveyard before the trolls find it.

Thu, 05/24/2012 - 17:36
#8
Jennytheturtle's picture
Jennytheturtle
you cant say DO THIS FOR ME.

you cant say DO THIS FOR ME. You're just one player. Don't be selfish and suggest something that benefits everyone and isnt just going to make you happy. Not everyone's needs can be met

Thu, 05/24/2012 - 19:03
#9
The-Avvesome-Hero's picture
The-Avvesome-Hero
The crystal energy idea

Is something that can be considered albet in a different fashion. If they made the conversion rate 100 mist energy to 5 crystal energy (via a condenser and maybe a small fee~200 crowns) it can help newcomers get into the game. For example a new player is ready to start getting three star items. They can condense their mist over a twenty day period with no play time and be able to afford one item. Some may do it but the rest will realize that it is slow and inefficient. Then they turn to the crystal energy market. They see that they can get 100 crystal energy at a price (at their level it can be roughly two or three days grinding for crowns). If they are even more impatient they see that they can instantly buy energy. Either way there is a method for the amount of patience they have.

Also this will be helpful for older players (like myself) who either play rarely or (like myself) are working three jobs and can only play one day in three.

P.S. Sir Origional Poster- the rest of your ideas have either been beaten to death by a dead horse or complete balderdash. Good day.

Thu, 05/24/2012 - 19:12
#10
Juances's picture
Juances
~

Why did no one mention the obvious flaw about 'weak and small' instant bombs? it simply cant work with anything but the basic blast bomb line.

The concept is already impossible (or just too stupid if you use common sense) to apply to sun shards, dark retribution, vortexes and mist bombs.

Thu, 05/24/2012 - 21:47
#11
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
Read a few posts and a bit.

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3pfutc/

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 01:37
#12
Lunaecho's picture
Lunaecho
About bombs

I'm not even going to bother replying to anything but the bombs part.

DO YOU EVEN USE BOMBS? Small, weaker insta-bombs to keep enemies away wont work with anything but blast style bombs. 4-5 star blast bombs have more than enough area to keep anything away without that. And what about things that aren't blast bombs then? no need for any higher status bomb levels beyond shivermist for Vanaduke that way since you can just go spam lesser ones all over the place all the time. Shard bombs? constant barrage of weakened bullets in every single direction? WHAT. Vortexes? those are not for damage and being able to drop them without charge would be OP. Dark Retribution? Most effective when stacked in large numbers and would be OP even if super weak if it was without charge time.

If you really NEED another attack then the most realistic and reasonable option would be an unfinished charge just bonking one enemy away slightly for almost no damage(short narrow range) BUT you have a shield and possibly a sidearm to push things away with so WHY.

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 02:51
#13
Toxicblade's picture
Toxicblade
No.

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that says no, in ASCII.

PS: no. no. no. no. no. no. forever no. no. no. no. no. no.

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 02:58
#14
Toxicblade's picture
Toxicblade
Eh

my previous comments ASCII no looked different in the preview. T.T just imagine. also, no. I would give reasons, but they're pretty much the same as the other posts saying no. BTW, I tried to edit out the ascii no, and the other comment, but it made a new post. TT.TT

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 04:48
#15
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Varminttwotwothree
Most of it is a no for the players

I think its time to revise it or /graveyard.

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 07:51
#16
Golgomath's picture
Golgomath
I will respond to this through art

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2. http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3pg0jj/

3. http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3pg0k3/

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7. http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3pg0py/

8. http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3pg0ru/

9. http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120504093919/warhammer40kfanon/i...

10. (this is what happens if this idea is implemented) http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3pg0t3/

basically these ideas are bad.

my impression of you: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3pg0u4/

in my defense: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3pg0v7/

stay thirsty my friends

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 12:09
#17
Quotefanboy's picture
Quotefanboy
Oh man

This troll is too good at his job.

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 12:14
#18
Golgomath's picture
Golgomath
me or OP?

me or OP?

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 12:16
#19
Quotefanboy's picture
Quotefanboy
No dude your fine

But that Op man. Reminds me of one of those snooty blonde sophomore girls back in high school.

I'm not one to insult someone personally, but when I do..

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 12:20
#20
Golgomath's picture
Golgomath
You might enjoy this:

You might enjoy this: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3pg4ud/

Also, speaking as a guy sophomore, lol

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 12:23
#21
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
Golgo... I applaud the

Golgo... I applaud the effort, and you win 2000 internets.

Go forth and relish the day of pwnage.

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 13:37
#22
Thrillhaus's picture
Thrillhaus
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Can't tell if trolling or just failure of public education system.

Entitled kids these days.

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 13:40
#23
Quotefanboy's picture
Quotefanboy
If only I could make that my avatar.

Seriously.

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 18:25
#24
Schattentag's picture
Schattentag
Oh man...

The things you miss when you're out working on a term paper for a day...

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 18:36
#25
Trying's picture
Trying

Stick a deadly virulisk avatar on the OP and then problem solved

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 19:05
#26
Marvintheandroid's picture
Marvintheandroid
YOU ARE EXPERIENCING A CAR ACCIDENT.

1. No. If they did that, Lockdown would immediately become torture.

2. No. What would the purpose be?

3. Perhaps. But if that's a personal problem, try using a different armor.

4. Could be cool. But again, if that's a personal problem, try using a different shield.

5. No. Trolls could team up and trap someone in the area of the training hall.

6. NO.

7. No. How does that benefit anyone? Plus, people wouldn't be able to go through and do runs of their favorite boss with ease.

8. No. Market trolls build up a stockpile of CE, sell it, and throw the market for a loop. Either that, or CE becomes worthless.

9. NO.

10. No. You have trouble gathering materials? Solo missions or arcade elevators.

P.S. You need to revise this post.

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 19:18
#27
Aplauses's picture
Aplauses
@Au-Knight

Well.. you doesn't respect Gingermace. So, we doesn't respect you either.

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 19:24
#28
Voxren
!!!

either you play the game with no complaints about being selfish or don't play at all, some of us are happy with how the game is so far and are looking forward to the upgrades OOO team are going to release

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 22:13
#29
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
...

I read most of the OP.

I skipped lots of parts, because from skimming it I could tell it was all the same.

What I think of the OP now: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3pgdqa/

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 06:40
#30
Sylveon's picture
Sylveon
Huh

Sorry sir this wasn't ment for you.

I've been seeing a lotta autism like this lately

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 06:55
#31
Shidara's picture
Shidara
So, guys...

Can somebody remind me why we are still posting here? The OP hasn't returned, and all of y'all are just keeping the thread alive by going 'herp-derp everyone's flaming him so I'll do it, too!' Yeah, post so that we can bump this back to the top, why not. Great way to kill a thread, totally. This is turning into the CE-removal thread all over again.

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 08:20
#32
Metagenic's picture
Metagenic
@Eins-Zwei-Drei

I'm autistic and I'm sick of people comparing entitled brats like the OP to people like me.

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 08:47
#33
Varminttwotwothree's picture
Varminttwotwothree
Yep,

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3pghvl/

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 08:54
#34
Iron-Volvametal's picture
Iron-Volvametal
@Everyone

Did something horrible Happen when I Stopped Posting Memes? Because...

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 09:05
#35
Softhead's picture
Softhead
HE'S BACK!

T_T

Yay!!

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 09:10
#36
Iron-Volvametal's picture
Iron-Volvametal
...

I've always been here.

Just haven't posted anything Since my Ban.

Feeling a Bit...Protective & Paranoid.

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 09:18
#37
Serell's picture
Serell
D:

You got banned? D:
Well anyway welcome back, no one does memes better than you :3
Though Psycho is a close second with the ponies :o

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 09:20
#38
Iron-Volvametal's picture
Iron-Volvametal
...

Yes, I was Banned on May 13th & was Released on May 15th.

Although, I don't know if Discussing it will Result in another, so I'll Stop...

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 09:32
#39
Asukalan's picture
Asukalan
Well according to forum

Well according to forum guidelines you should not discuss your ban here but if you do, all you have to understand, is that GM will have to also discuss your case in here. So actually discussing bans is not forbidden.

Mon, 05/28/2012 - 02:35
#40
Blandaxt's picture
Blandaxt
there is

there is already a conversion system that let players convert their mist to ce. its not like its a secret either. all you have to do is have the ce needed to make your weapon then when u create your weapon, the mist that you had is transferred to ce. just don't play for the rest of that day and come back tomorrow with a tank full of mist energy and 100 ce saved. if this is repeated continuously, you could have a lot of ce saved. although u need imense amount of patience to not play the game.

control, CONTROL yourself around the spiral or it will drag u in and make u spend more and more until you end up owing thousand of loans all because of the spiral.

although this is good for me lose control buahuahuahua!

Mon, 05/28/2012 - 02:41
#41
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
.....

"all you have to do is have the ce needed to make your weapon then when u create your weapon, the mist that you had is transferred to ce."

What?

Crafting USES the ce, it doesn't put it away somewhere. Unless you're talking about something like making a 3* weapon, where you need 200ce, and you use your mist for it and you're left with 100ce. That's not converting. That's just NOT USING that 100ce. It's all energy, 'cept mist regens and CE doesn't. By using your mist, that's 100ce you don't have to use, so if you had 200ce, then it'll only take 100 to fill the gap.

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