Spiral Knights - Good bomb combos? (LD)

Good bomb combos? (LD)

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Jue, 07/05/2012 - 05:02

Orangeo

I want one status bomb that isn't shivermist (Sklovers...) and something that deals fair damage, prefferably not normal and hopefuly with a status. I want damage cause I'm getting mercurial demo, it has damage buff. Armor I think I got sorted out.

So I was thinking;
Mercurial demo helm (Hopefuly VH peircing)
Ironmight plate mail (Hopefuly VH shock)
Electron vortex (might search for high CTR so I can guardian demo)
Stagger storm (Swagger storm :D)

Mercurial is good since you can't UV movement speed or damage. I choose ironmight instead of another mercurial demo peice, because I need the peircing and normal defense. It's basicaly anti-sword armor. Plus the low attack speed decrease dosen't affect me (same goes for the sleep weakness heh). I figure stagger makes it easy to pull people in to the electron, and the electron offers damage and the deadly stun and shock combo.

Jue, 07/05/2012 - 06:34

Zeddy

SUNSHAAAAAAAAAAARDS

Voltaic Tempest and Sun Shards.
Shivermist and Sun Shards.
Venom Veiler and Sun Shards.
Vortex and Sun Shards.

Jue, 07/05/2012 - 10:02

Aquajag

I do full bombastic and only

I do full bombastic and only play recon. That's an armor choice.

When I'm running two slots, I do: RSS and VT, or RSS and Stagger Storm. Very occasionally I'll use Electron Vortex or Nitro, but really, those other three bombs cover most of my use. And I'm an RSS spammer, so there's that.

Jue, 07/05/2012 - 10:20

Juances

If you wont use offensive bomb, use regular mercurial instead of demo. Pierce+shock+move bonus.

Jue, 07/05/2012 - 12:47

Traevelliath

Most bombers I see go full Mercurial Bomber.

As for bombs, Voltaic Tempest is the best. However, people know this, so they'll get a lot of shock resist too. Thus, Staggering Storm is the best option in really competitive Lockdown matches. Stagger is in general more reliable, but not as effective as VT.

The Jempire bomber, if I'm not mistaken, uses Venom Veiler and Staggering Storm in GvG, but that only works if you have an organized team and/or a buddy helping you.

Radiant Sun Shards is more fun than practical IMO. It can work, but it's not the best option.

Jue, 07/05/2012 - 14:33

Dark-Flare

The vortexes are actually

The vortexes are actually quite interesting in LD, since you are stuck in a small area, and your screen is kind of disoriented from the spinning. Not the absolute best, as the radius is small, but can be effective with a good team who can use it well.

Jue, 07/05/2012 - 18:52

Orangeo

I figured the stun would help

I figured the stun would help with the vortex, as I've seen strikers escape it several times.

I have a 3* SS, but it's gonna probabaly get changed (woo petition huzzah) so I don't wanna set up my loadout with it until I've tested it out. It is a good bomb and a viable option for now, it's basicaly a gun bomb the same way spur is a gun sword. The difference is it's useful. Set up a perimiter with a mist bomb and hit people at a range with the RSS. ISB might also be good, it deals shock so mixed with the haze you could make sure noone got close. Noone is stupid enough to walk into a haze while they're shocked. Plus you get to also deal peircing.

I don't wanna go full mercurial bomber because the helmet clips through the armor, and I want the peircing ressist.

I figured getting some high CTR UV's and playing guardian would be a good call, because you suck people into your sheild and your haze bomb. Makes a nice little nest on the base for your allys to heal and get easy kills while helping capture the base.

Jue, 07/05/2012 - 21:03

Traevelliath

If you're going guard, don't forget that the Guardian Shield gives CTR low to bombs, and a fully heated bomb gives an additional CTR med, for a total of CTR high. You only need an additional CTR low or med to still be able to bomb effectively.

Vie, 07/06/2012 - 00:26

Zeddy

ISB might also be good, it

ISB might also be good, it deals shock so mixed with the haze you could make sure noone got close. Noone is stupid enough to walk into a haze while they're shocked. Plus you get to also deal peircing.

Dealing split normal-piercing when most people wear armour that defends against split normal-piercing is not to be considered a good thing. Elemental-piercing is substantially more helpful because I've seen literally no one with armour against that. I'm afraid ISB charges at least as slow as a Big Angry Bomb and is utterly useless for that reason; your haze bomb would run out by the time you plant it.

Vie, 07/06/2012 - 03:25

Derpules

@Traevelliath

"Radiant Sun Shards is more fun than practical IMO. It can work, but it's not the best option."

Now, I don't T3 LD at all, but I thought RSS was the only workable damage-oriented LD bomb? Do you disagree with this common perception, or do you think going for damage at all as a bomber is the wrong idea?

Vie, 07/06/2012 - 03:55

#10

Zeddy

@Derpules

The thing is you have no reason to limit yourself to one weapon type, as you'll quickly notice when you're inside the haze of a bomb. Everyone pulls out their Polaris and so could you. There's no reason to kill people fast if you can keep them occupied butting their heads against a control point they're not getting anytime soon.

Vie, 07/06/2012 - 11:57

#11

Traevelliath

IMO, bombers are not good at damage in general. They are more focused on AOE mass pandemonium over trying to kill something specific. As of now, the RSS is the only POTENTIAL exception, but that requires a lot of luck and/or practice. The best LD bombers, especially in GvG, are there to screw people over, making them limp back to their spawn instead of being respawned 20 seconds later. Some of the best bombers I know of get an average of like 1500 damage and maybe 2 caps, because if they can get onto a point, and are given a few seconds to get their first bombs down, that point is practically unobtainable to the other team for most of the match (the only exception is the "God Armor Set", which is a Shock Immune Ice Queen Set, giving immunity to Stun, Freeze, AND Shock: The LD bomber's main tools). The entire game can be shut down if one good bomber can get some haze bombs going outside of the other team's spawn.

Vie, 07/06/2012 - 13:03

#12

Orangeo

You're completly correct

You're completly correct Tarevelliath, but with additional damage you can make them decide to limp back earlier. This canmean that you'll be able to get to their closest base earlier. Also, to get max CTR as a guardian without demo peices or trinkets, you need a high UV. With low you can use one 5* demo peice, so that isn't bad, and with medium you can use a 3* peice in T2, giving you room for some plate mail armor (I think it's good for bombers since you avoid the ASD, jelly might be better in T2 though since plate has no peirce defense until T3).

For now I'm doing BN for coins for the 3* haze recipie, already have the electron one and the 2* hazerecipie. I got a leftover low ASI flamberge, and I'm working on a low ASI nightblade. Gonna get quicksilver helm and dusker coat to look like a kendo warior that also fences.

ALSO;
I have some random unbound low CTR blast bomb, if anyone would like to purchase it. I bought it before I quit, got the 3* and 4* recipies (NOW AVAILABLE THROUGH QUESTS AUGH) and now don't really want it anymore. 30k cr sound like a good price? I saw one on the AH for 40k, but noone bid or bought it.

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