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Idea for 5 star Shard line

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Thu, 10/11/2012 - 09:55
Unthought's picture
Unthought

Currently the difference between 4 and 5 star shard bombs is only in terms of damage, not visuals. Most other bombs have a significant boost in area of effect, but this would be inappropriate given the bomb's mechanics. This is in addition to the general griping of underpoweredness and not-being-like-the-old-bomb-ness.
My idea for the 5 star bomb is: let the fallout shards explode prematurely if an enemy walks on them. This doesn't mean the shards would last any longer, but it would increase the chance that they had an effect. In addition, there is the potential for an enemy to be knocked into shard one after another (max 3) to chain damage, though not to the extent of the old bomb form.

Thu, 10/11/2012 - 10:09
#1
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru

Way ahead of you.

For those oversensitive, I link things so people know they might not be the only one to think of something. If that is rude to you I advise you seek emotional counseling.

Thu, 10/11/2012 - 10:24
#2
Derpules's picture
Derpules
Good lord, Luguiru.

I followed the link and was floored. It shouldn't take a wall of text to say "Increase the fuse time and make the shards explode on contact or upon the expiry of the fuse, whichever comes first." Brevity is a virtue, and complexity of expression should be justified by complexity of thought. I'm sure you have a tonne of great suggestions, but I will never read them because they're so unnecessarily wordy.

+1 to this suggestion, though. Which I guess is yours, kinda.

Thu, 10/11/2012 - 10:34
#3
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru

Most of that was explaining why the change was awful and a nerf in basically every way.

Unless you like what they did to shard bombs.

Thu, 10/11/2012 - 10:50
#4
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Another good solution to the shard bombs that wasn't written entirely by Luigi.

Thu, 10/11/2012 - 10:53
#5
Derpules's picture
Derpules
No, I agree fully.

I just don't see why it should take so damn many words to say it. Others have done so far more succinctly. Their points are more likely to be read and understood.

I am quite happy to chew through long, difficult (by forum standards) texts if the payoff is something novel. But your complaints about the shard bombs are merely the complaints everyone who ever used them had and has (i.e. low damage and a low chance of actually hitting anything with explosions due to the slow fuse, enemies moving, and small radius of explosion). Why should I slog through 10x the verbiage to read the same old thoughts?

^Note how my second paragraph says exactly what my first paragraph says, but uses lots more words. All your suggestions are like that, but worse.

Thu, 10/11/2012 - 11:10
#6
Sir-Didymus's picture
Sir-Didymus
@Derpules

Sorry you lost me in the middle of the second paragraph. Perhaps I could have made it if it was short and to the point like the first paragraph.

Thu, 10/11/2012 - 13:08
#7
Darkbrady's picture
Darkbrady
I followed the link and was

I followed the link and was floored

I lol'd. Have to agree though; the enormous walls of text are the only thing that's put me off reading what (according to the many links I've seen) would be some interesting suggestions.

Either way though, agreed with the OP. In LD especially, it's still infuriatingly easy to utterly avoid any and all bombs and the shards have done little to redeem the theft of the real RSS.

Thu, 10/11/2012 - 16:15
#8
Addisond's picture
Addisond

Yeah, I've never bothered to read through all of lug's thread because he's so long winded.

When writing anything extensive you should probably take a non-personal tone and shorten everything up as much as possible. Jokes take up words, and unless you want your thread to be a big heap suggestion-related blogging that few people read, you should try and keep everything as short as possible.

Thu, 10/11/2012 - 17:07
#9
Ex-Tails's picture
Ex-Tails
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Thu, 10/11/2012 - 17:27
#10
Draycos's picture
Draycos

If you looked, you'd see that your post was both off-topic and already being discussed in another thread. Pretty sure it's at least on the second page at the time of this post.

On the topic of 5* shards, nah, not until they're reasonably buffed.

As for 'Luigi isn't concise enough', I like the informative, detailed text walls. Wouldn't be a bad idea to write a little TL;DR every now and then, though.

Thu, 10/11/2012 - 17:29
#11
Oatmonster's picture
Oatmonster
Lick

Not only is it off topic and already being discussed, it isn't his idea.

Thu, 10/11/2012 - 17:34
#12
Draycos's picture
Draycos

It's kind of a given, what with the 'it's already being discussed' part.

It's probably better that it is, because otherwise it'd be advertising...

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