T3 Trinkets are obvious, but what do you guys sport for T2? I've been thinking of getting 2 3* heart pendants.
T2 Lockdown Trinket help
Dom, 11/04/2012 - 01:16
Dom, 11/04/2012 - 01:24
#2
No elemental/piercing
No elemental/piercing trinkets?
Dom, 11/04/2012 - 01:25
#3
Also, you can't use 5* on T2
Also, you can't use 5* on T2 lockdown or you'll get bumped to T3
Dom, 11/04/2012 - 01:35
#4
No need for them.
Oh,really?x) but i does use 4* trinket on t2 though.
Those elemental/piercing trinket is a useless though(actually none will be getting em) since having or not having,you still gonna get massive damage from toothpick so the best way is to get heart pendant instead.
Just get a dusker set and your done.And nightblade won't do much damage on dusker since you'll had 3* heart pendant.
Somehow nightblade is useful against those dusker or wolvers without trinkets on because it damage them pretty well. x)
Or you could just fight with a nightblade but the range is shorter than a toothpick so it's take pratice to perform a 1swing hit strategy.
Dom, 11/04/2012 - 01:42
#5
Do you think
Do you think toothpick>nightblade? Whats the best t2 sword.
Dom, 11/04/2012 - 01:04
#6
Nightblade.
Well,it depends on you,but i usually use nightblade as everyone were using dusker(the most common gear in general) and i found it silly that everyone were wearing dusker(piercing element) and players still using toothpick against them.x) Nightblade do more damage overall but toothpick had faster and better range while when using a nightblade you had to be very close to the target inorder to make the hit accurately.
And it's rare to see anyone with drake set.
But still nightblade ftw!! :D,i'm a beast with it when vsing those pro..
Dom, 11/04/2012 - 15:43
#7
Biased towards Nightblade
I play T2 LD quite commonly, and find that the biggest benefit of a toothpick over a nightblade is the flinch-haxing that happens during slapfights between strikers. For someone like me who plays seriously offensive guardian, however, nightblade's charge is perfect for hitting unexpected scouts who thin i can't reach them, or for disrupting someone from the outside of a bomb area radius. nightblade does seem to KO duskers significantly faster than toothpick, although the flinching from toothpick usually saves you some health.
Dom, 11/04/2012 - 17:36
#8
Tee Too Luckdawn
I assume that when you say of "T3" and "T2" you are talking about Lockdown. So.
Comparing two swords with very different functionality as in "Which is best???" is very silly...
Both are useless in careless hands and can be used very well with a good amount of skill. It's more a thing of liking or disliking... Try aiming for both if possible, so you can see which works better with you. But I can try'n make a comparison with both...
Toothpicks
+Huge range in first hit
=> You hardly even have to aim to hit stuff...
+Fast as hell
=> Add some shield cancel and you'll be fencing trough anything.
+Common in AH, cheap
=> Lots of ragecrafters, so you might find lots of good UV'd toothpicks around in AH, if you got the coin.
-Piercing dmg
=> You'll be fighting basically Cobalts, Duskers and Jellies in T2. So, Piercing kinda sucks.
-Useless combo
=> If you run out of boost/cloak, throwing combos will only get you killed, since Attack 2 and 3 have a VERY narrow hit area
Nightblade
+Shadow dmg
=> The only two armors that provide Shadow defense in T2 are Scary Skelly and Angelic Raiment. You won't likely find any of these in LD, so, WIN!
+Useful combo
=> Whenever running out of boost/cloak, combo is viable to defend yourself. Or if you want you can spam your @ss off with combos.
+Decent range
=> Not as broad as the toothpick, but still hits well. All hits in combo have good range.
-Average speed
=> You won't be shield canceling/throwing combos as fast as you would with the Toothpick.
So, what I recommend? idk, see what you like better... If you're starting in LD, the Nightblade is very viable, since it can be used very well with little skill and has a very fun and useful Charge Attack. If you know how to use a sword well, try Toothpick for fast shield-canceling action that can kill most enemies in 3 or 4 hits.
Also about the trinks... It's quite the opposite you said... Trinks in T2 are obvious (Heart Pendants), but in T3 are MUCH harder to choose... A non-UV'd Skolvie may get an Quick Strike for hitting faster, gunners with Shadowsun set might want a Elite Trueshot for Dmg MAX! with any class, or even a Mad/Volcanic bomber getting two Elite Bomb Focus for Striker Bombing (Which actually works well o_O)
So, yea hope I helped ^^
Dom, 11/04/2012 - 20:20
#9
But it still depends on
But it still depends on whether your using AA or not..because AA sometimes can cause some trouble when using toothpick and nightblade..
Well,nightblade does more damage in term of shield canceling strategy.Using AA don't dream to use shield canceling. x)
And most guardian i met in game is either using SS or grinv(the most common HS that players like as a guardian or striker) because when using a HS you had better dps and you can perform the HnS strategy easily without getting a single hit. x) while you could heal.
Dom, 11/04/2012 - 21:11
#10
Beep beep I'm a box
Actually, AA affects mostly in a positive way SC'd attacks... The only difference is that you will hit enemies with the center of the hit area, making it less viable for fighting crowds...
And the Nightblade, as a med speed sword, people usually have a harder time SCing, since almost everyone familiar with it uses it on toothpicks, which are faster. The pace of Brandish line SCing is slower but can cause huge damages (I got 7.3k with it, striker... Not much, but still loads of fun:3), not to mention T3 pros who use other Brandish lines and can get easy kills since few people carry Ele resistance.
Also i didn't notice you guys were talking bout Guardians... My bad :(
Being quite the opposite of what you said, HS have a lower DPS compared to faster swords, but can pack a big punch in few hits. And dealing big damage with fewer hits is vital for Guardians, since they can only hit when enemies come in range (and that because guards can't pursue). Then, Nightblade is superior to the Toothpick, since it will assuredly damage more with the same amount of hits.
Besides, it's also fun to see dumb new players with dem lil combos thinking that only because Guard is slow it is defenseless, only to get their faces slashed away...
Dom, 11/04/2012 - 21:24
#11
well,still.
Most of them that using AA always spam combo using toothpick,which is unnecessary.Why?
Here why,while your in the middle on spamming an unnecessary combo,player(pro) would had get behind you already and you should be death by now. x)
True flourish had wider and longer range than a nightblade but still in term of damage dealt on a dusker nb win. :P
Well,i like Hs because i can 2hit a guardian shield and 3hit a guardian as a striker,not so much a guardian.And Hs had higher damage overall if you use the second swing.
Hs had wider range than all fast sword which give it an advantages when it came to 1-vs-5.
Guardian is the toughest to kill in general unless your confident that you can break their shield in time and kill them before they strike you.
if you know how to play a guardian then you'll be a beast hybrid of supporter and attacker.
And AA mostly for ld players A.K.A cheating but it still fun to use when your vsing noobie that spam combo on you. x)
Mié, 11/07/2012 - 01:28
#12
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Tri-heart pendants are the only viable trinkets in T2 LD.
With regards to weapons: Fights are (typically) longer in T2, so it's not quite like T3 where you can use a brandish-line to cheese a kill against someone more skilled. I'd recommend trying both brandish-lines and toothpicks. Very different feels, partly going to be up to personal preference. I'd never recommend running a slow sword as your only sword.
In terms of damage dealt, I feel the damage typing is a bit misleading. Resistances don't do much in LD, and it's easier to juggle with a toothpick than with a brandish-line.
In short, get tri-hearts and try out different swords (and different combinations thereof) to see which you like best.
Mié, 11/07/2012 - 04:07
#13
Use seal sword if you fight a
Use seal sword if you fight a group of enemies...fast sword if you fight 1v1, calibur is also valid choice for fast sword as it have longer range than brandish and can 1 hit ko multiple enemies with charge:3
or you could borrow my playstyle...status the enemy with alchemer the start attacking them with sword :3
getting 2 3* heart pendants.
That's what ya need for all. or you could even use 5* trinket on t2 doesn't matters though but if you wanna be fair in vsing those t2 ld pro..then use 2 3*heart pendant. x)