It's a nice idea but it's way too free of rules to be decently used, here are some suggestions:
- Make it possible to withdraw a certain quantity of mist, because aside from draining it too fast by filling the whole mist tank, most people won't need the whole tank;
- Make it possible for GMs/Officers to lock the quantity withdrawal-able by rank (ex: officers can take 100 mist per day, veterans 80, etc);
- If the point above isn't possible, then make it so you need GM/Officer approval to withdraw the mist;
- Separate the mist deposits by account/password, so that the mist delivered to be taken freely doesn't get mixed in the personal use ones.
More control on Mist Well
Mon, 11/19/2012 - 12:54
Mon, 11/19/2012 - 15:28
#1
+1 for the amount of CE you deposit freely
Mon, 11/19/2012 - 15:42
#2
+1
I imagine that much of the code infrastructure to do this already exists, and it's a good idea. More control over our resources is always welcome.
Mon, 11/19/2012 - 15:53
#3
i dont think
i dont think password should work cause hat means if that lower rank thats knows the password could withdraw what they want after they got the password.
Mon, 11/19/2012 - 18:34
#4
I'm glad to see, that I'm not
I'm glad to see, that I'm not the only one in favor of those changes. :)
@Bladanxt: The password would be for people that don't wanna share, or only wanna share with some specific people (since you can't withdraw more than 100 mist at a time); while the "free-for-all" would have the limitation of officer/gm approval only or limited withdraws a day based on rank.
Tue, 11/20/2012 - 02:00
#5
@Byas:
At your thread points though...
1. Agree, already on my thread.
2. Counter-intuitive. Why would officers get less mist than a veteran? The veteran is likely more inclined to need it.
3. GM/Officer approval to use the mist tank also doesn't make much sense. If there are none online, it's unusable? I don't like that idea very much.
4. Not sure I understand you clearly here. You're saying we should have a Personal Well and a Public Well?
~Sev
Tue, 11/20/2012 - 06:17
#6
+1
+1 Agree!
Tue, 11/20/2012 - 09:28
#7
Sorry about it Sev, since the
Sorry about it Sev, since the guild hall update there were just so many post that I stopped checking all the threads over suggestions. :S
- "2. Counter-intuitive. Why would officers get less mist than a veteran? The veteran is likely more inclined to need it."
The idea would be for GM/Officers to decide the quantity that each rank could get a day, the numbers were just an example.
- "3. GM/Officer approval to use the mist tank also doesn't make much sense. If there are none online, it's unusable? I don't like that idea very much."
This one would be a last case option, in case OOO can't implement the ones above for any reason whatsoever at least this would prevent it from being stolen (like happened with a recruit in my guild that just took it all without saying anything then got away).
- "4. Not sure I understand you clearly here. You're saying we should have a Personal Well and a Public Well?"
Basically this. Since there are people who wish to use it for themselves or to share with just certain people, it would be nice to separate the deposit from the "public well" so that he or his friends could take it without fear of it being taken by someone.
Tue, 11/20/2012 - 09:53
#8
'nuff said
+1
Tue, 11/20/2012 - 11:13
#9
Sense it {Distrust}, feel it {paranoia}, put it into words...
So, what you're saying there is that you do not trust your Guild-Members enough to allow them unrestricted access to something which their Crowns helped buy, in the fear that one may abuse it? I thought the Guilds were all built on trust? If someone was abusing it you could just check the Guild Record then see who has been withdrawing without contributing, then have a nice sit-down with them about the responsibilities of the Mist Well. And if someone does abuse the Well... well, all I can say is that they deserve whatever they get coming to them.
Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:14
#10
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@Ghret: You seem forgot that a guild needs new members to stay alive, and those new members aren't aways trustworthy (even thought they look nice at first glance, some times they are just waiting for some chance to stab you in the back)... Also, for being new, kicking them from the guild don't bother them at all just like when I told about the recruit who stole the mist and got away. But sure, if we lived in an utopia where everyone could be trusted there would be no need for it. ;)
Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:21
#11
But does that mean every member will need it's own well plus convice the leader to buy it for him?
What if the guy gets kicked?
What if an officer attempts to change permissons?
Also I think the point of wells is to share and the 20% bonus aims at that. Not strict personal benefit.
For custom amounts, what happens with decimals? Rather than full freedom, should we put predefined amounts and avoid problems?
Tue, 11/20/2012 - 13:31
#12
- But does that mean every
- But does that mean every member will need it's own well plus convice the leader to buy it for him?
Not really, I was thinking of when you open the mist well you get into a login/password screen where you can choose the public well or your private one.
- What if the guy gets kicked?
He would still have his Mist Account and could use it on his next guild, but would lose access to the old guild's public one and only be able to use the new guild's public well.
- What if an officer attempts to change permissons?
He would probably get banned for doing this without the GM's consent (and since officers usually are long term members, it would actually be bad for them), plus he would only be able to mess up with the daily withdrawal-able quantity by rank on the public well (or refuse to let someone take it from the public in case the "daily amount suggestion" was declined).
- Also I think the point of wells is to share and the 20% bonus aims at that. Not strict personal benefit.
Ok, I think it could do both but each one with their opinions. :)
- For custom amounts, what happens with decimals? Rather than full freedom, should we put predefined amounts and avoid problems?
Not custom amounts for deposit, but for withdraw (ex: I have 0mist, want to do JK and logoff; instead of draining whole 100mist from the well I could take 30 and do the JK without taking more mist than I need).
Tue, 11/20/2012 - 16:12
#13
i agree!
i agree with you last post. there should be custom amounts for withdraw. i dont always want to take all the mist i need to reach 100 mist. sometimes i want to take 5 or maybe 40. the amount i take should be able to be modified base on what i aim to do with it.
costriction of 100 mist of course.
