Big Ol' Beastiary
Sáb, 10/16/2010 - 16:26
Hello, Im Zardica! Some of you may or may not know me, or know about my postion as the head of the unoffical SK wiki. Now that we can all work togther on a universal public wiki, I'm here to put in all the info we've got, and work with yall to make a super fantastic mega ultra wonderful wiki! :D
Now if there's one thing I love most about MMO's it's the monsters, so thats why I started this thread, to see the info we can get about monsters and soon im sure other threads will pop up too!
P.S. Anyone know and effictive way to take a screenshot, I know there frowned apon, but we need some pics.
P.S.S. Any Java experts out there, it'd be good to see if we can get deep in and find out names and even monsters health. ;)
Sáb, 10/16/2010 - 17:23
#2
Additional monsters
Don't forget the "Impostocube" with the moustache and pipe!
There is also Lord Vanaduke, his "super-Trojan", and his floating "fireshields"
There are also poisonous and firey variants of the skeleton (the firey ones were found in the citadel levels)
Re: screenshots. I don't think there is an issue with taking screenshots, only where you post them. Previously we've used the private sandbox area of this wiki to upload images and that seems to be ok (just don't upload them to any other site eg photobucket)
I was reading the official wiki last night, and it seems a bit bare at the moment. Does anyone know if there is any official policy on players editing it?
Sáb, 10/16/2010 - 18:07
#3
OuO
I never knew there was a Fire Skeleton, ill be sure to add it!
Can anyone give me a desc or hopefully a picture of Lord Vanaduke and his minions?
Otherwise, it's great to see such interest in the progress of the wiki!! <3
Sáb, 10/16/2010 - 17:51
#4
Here's the love
Here's the love puppy.
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/images/0/02/Lovepuppy.png
Here's the best Lord Vanaduke picture I have, but it's not that good.
Sáb, 10/16/2010 - 18:05
#5
WOAH. He's huge, and looks
WOAH. He's huge, and looks powerful! Ill update his desc, thanks!
Sáb, 10/16/2010 - 18:12
#6
"Does anyone know if there is
"Does anyone know if there is any official policy on players editing it?"
The official policy is that YOU SHOULD ALL EDIT THE WIKI ALL THE TIME!
Seriously, the hope is that players totally make the wiki their own. Things might be kind of dodgy at first, but eventually, as we get more players, I think players will start to take ownership over the wiki and police it, and things will find a pretty stable equilibrium.
Dom, 10/17/2010 - 06:15
#7
Just wondering...
Could we get an admin to help us out? I suppose we could just get three offical names a week.
Just so we dont overwork anyone, but still get results.
Dom, 10/17/2010 - 12:31
#8
;n;
I tried my hand at creating a page for the Beast Family today... I don't know if it's any good, I'm much better at editing then accutaly creating pages and layouts... soo. :C
Dom, 10/17/2010 - 21:37
#9
Wikified
I made your edit into a table Zardica.
Which I actually think would be better to turn on a collapsable table, and posted on the main article of monsters.
I'll continue to do the same with all the pages if you guys think it's a decent template. Will probably look a lot better with images.
Otherwise, there's the undo button in the wiki.
PS: As for the images, take screenshots with the screenshot button of the keyboard, and paste them in photoshop or some image editor, then resize and save.
I could take out the individual models of monsters and take standalone images of them if I knew the real extension of the .dat model files and if they contain the data of the UV maps.
Dom, 10/17/2010 - 21:38
#10
Where should I be dumping my
Where should I be dumping my pictures?
Dom, 10/17/2010 - 21:51
#11
Danke, my informative friends.
@Pupu Thanks! Now I can get some pictures for some of the lesser monsters, etc. etc. Also, DEAR GOD, I LOVE WHAT YOU'VE DONE, ITS BEAUTIFUL, IT REALLY IS. <3
@Bright Right on the wiki is good buddy, ill get to postin' all mah recipes sometime soon.
Addendum: The List has been updated and new monsters have been added.
Dom, 10/17/2010 - 22:02
#12
Also, I just figured: If you
Also, I just figured:
If you have the game sintalled, going to Disc\Software or whatever\Three Rings Design\Spiral Knights\rsrc\character\npc\monster\
Can shed some light on the names of the monsters.
For example, the gunpuppy folder has the following images:
skin_default.png (gun puppy)
skin_gold.png (gold puppy?)
skin_love.png (love puppy)
skin_mkii.png (mk2 puppy?)
The chromalisk folder has the default image.
Then the bull in "bull" subfolder.
The dark one in a "kleptolisk" folder.
Two different ones in a "viruslisk" folder.
Etc. If you recognize the skins in the images, maybe we can figure out the names of the enemies.
PS: I'll continue wikifying the articles.
Dom, 10/17/2010 - 22:05
#13
AHAHAHAH! This is excellent!
AHAHAHAH! This is excellent! We should have the offical names soon enough!!
Dom, 10/17/2010 - 23:28
#14
ADMINS!
Feel free to correct my names, as I understand not all monsters are named after their files, i.e. Mewkat, also, Im only uploading unrealeased monsters with your permission, otherwise, it's all confidential to me.
Addendum: After speaking to an admin, expect monster list 2.0
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 00:45
#15
Wiki is now up to date with
Wiki is now up to date with second post.
Feel free to fix anything, add or remove things, remove the tables from those pages and split them between the family pages, etc.
PS: Also F12 takes screenshots and leaves them at Spiral Knights directory. But sometimes they turn out with some artifacts.
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 00:07
#16
Monsters!
I've been adding to the monsters page (http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Monsters) as well. Each series of monsters now has its own page, along with a section for traits, types of the monster, strategies, loot, and notable monsters of that type. Please feel free to add pictures, descriptions, the loot you've received from those monsters, etc. to the pages.
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 00:11
#17
I don't know if it was a
I don't know if it was a kleptolisk, but it would make sense:
I had a lizard hit me with its tongue and steal one of my vials from my bar once :O
Omnomnom
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 07:14
#18
Players can edit. There is
If you start editing the wiki, there is someone who will noticed you edited and will create a user page for you after you do so.
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 13:59
#19
New System
Im going to try a new system I spent a few days working on, I think it will help organize the Monsters catagory, and finally supply us with a page template. If people dont agree with my templates they can delete them and move on, I wont be upset or nothin.
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 14:31
#20
Hey, I saw what you were up
Hey, I saw what you were up to on the Chromalisk page. Would you like to repurpose what I made for weapons? I'm sure it could be modified in some way. :3
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 14:51
#21
>////<
Oh! Why thank you, once I finish up on the monster page, im sure ill slowly migrate to all the other exciting catagories. Feel free to steal my template though.
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 15:28
#22
Template
Template made:
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Template:Monster
All you have to do is the writeup and then copypaste into the below. :3
{{Weapon
|name=
|hp=
|damage=
|threat=
|location=
|desc=
}}
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 15:43
#23
WOAH
WOAH WOAH WOAH. THATS AMAZING. IM IMPRESSED. LIKE EXTREMELY. WOAH.
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 15:57
#24
New parameter: imagename. Use
New parameter: imagename. Use it to include images of said monster. When I get home I'll make the images thumbnail. Didn't realize that one chroma pic would be so big, haha.
just slide this in under the name line
|imagename=
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 16:34
#25
Good show old boy!
Keep up the amazing work, we need more pictures though you guys, send them im asap!! Also could you see about letting us change the background color? Yellow on yellow on yellow is so... DX
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 17:22
#26
What color(s) would you like?
What color(s) would you like? I tried to use colors from the game.
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 18:25
#27
Shrug, I unno, it's your
Shrug, I unno, it's your template.
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 18:30
#28
Well you're helpful. >:c (jk)
Well you're helpful. >:c (jk) If you put pictures in more of the yellow will be obscured. I just don't know what color to change the Location & Description boxes... I'm open to suggestions!
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 19:34
#29
Wow
Wow, that's an incredible template. Good work.
I'll probably go ahead and fill some of the weapon's pages while you guys organize the bestiary.
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 19:46
#30
Hey there's a Behemoth I
Hey there's a Behemoth I found, but it's not brown and instantly aggressive. You have to whomp him a couple of times for him to get mad.
The second levels of Emerald Rook, I think it's Emerald Axis II he appears in.
I haven't managed to kill it yet, but I don't see him on your list.
I'll try and snap a picture next run.
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 20:34
#31
Reduced the amount of yellow
Reduced the amount of yellow on the Monster template. Remembered the ui icons' light blue! I like it a lot now.
If you guys need templates for any other things, just let me know. I'll see what I can do.
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 20:43
#32
For the template, I believe
For the template, I believe that the monsters have different HP and attack power depending on how deep you are, so the template would have to account for that if it's included, aye?
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 21:02
#33
I'm sure I could add
I'm sure I could add something, but I'm not sure how to go about putting in... or what the strengths are at each level. I do agree though! I have noticed the strength ramp.
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 23:04
#34
Woof
Wolvers! Could be better. I'm using 128x128 as resolution, maybe we should use 256x256? For small monsters 128 is fantastic (can see them and image weights almost nothing), but there are some enemies too big to fit without scaling I think.
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:Wolvers128.jpg
The ones on depth 1 have 50 hp according to my silly tests. Can someone check on other 2 depths to see if the formula is simply basehealth+(x*depth) or something similar?
I'll figure something out if you guys get the data.
Mind making templates for the rest of the item pages Shoy? I'll fill them with the appropriate images when I can. At least for the Haven items so we get the ball rolling.
Depth 1. Gun Puppys seem to be 60 hp. Jelly cubes 50 hp.
Lun, 10/18/2010 - 21:52
#35
What should have priority
What should have priority Pupu (well, and others)? There's quite a bit of items. Haha. Pickups, Crafting, Minerals, Consumables, and all the Armor/Shields are to go.
I'm going to sleep and I have class in the morning, but I'll get something made for armor I suppose.
Also, the Weapon template can be used for bombs. The default text for Basic attack is "Bombs do not have a basic attack." if my memory is correct.
If you guys don't like that, a seperate version with the basic attack/charged attack sections changed to one "Primary Attack" or so could be made. Idk. It's up to you guys really.
Lastly, I love that Wolvers image. <333 So adorable.
EDIT: I feel like I'm overwhelming this thread with off-topic (non monster-dex) stuff. If you guys feel the same way, let me know and I'll start a Wiki General topic.
Mar, 10/19/2010 - 00:04
#36
Hm
Uh, I'd say any equipment first, since those are the pages with most info.
Minerals and others can pretty much be made any way then moved to a correct template without much work. Moving the data of equipment from one template to another can be quite a pain.
As for bombs, only leave the info for charge attacks.
Edit: Back on topic, shouldn't the monster template have something about their abilities/status they inflict/range/drops?
Also I'd switch the colors of health and damage heh
Mar, 10/19/2010 - 07:50
#37
Okay, so I was looking at the
Okay, so I was looking at the other monster pages and some part of me likes the idea of those better over the structured single-monster profiles I have made so far. The only problem is they list a lot less information than the current layout.
Examples: http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Construct_Family // http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Undead_Family
I'm going to think over the course of the day on how to improve what we've already got. I'll make it in a separate template so you guys can evaluate which you like better and one can become the standard.
Also, I swapped the colors for you. :3 I agree, it looks better!
I'll try to add in an abilities section similar to the weapons.
Mar, 10/19/2010 - 13:46
#38
I would also like to chime in
I would also like to chime in that health is scaled based on depth, but also I think it might be scaled on party size.
In the minimap there is an icon that me and Kharnor think might mark the scaling difficulty.
Solo it is either a blue green or green, with two players it is usually green, three can be yellow, four can be red.
I don't actually know what that dot means, but since it doesn't change when going through various stages solo, and is only observed to change when party size changes, that is our best guess.
I have observed monsters taking exactly 2 hits to take out at lower levels then taking three hits after another player joined. How this mechanic works, or if it is just imagined is still guesswork.
If so, hp info would be kind of silly to add, especially in this stage where hp levels are sure to be adjusted a lot due to balancing/difficulty adjustments. I guess a base hp for depth 1, solo could work. We don't know if there are other ways to adjust the difficulty of a gate yet. That would at least let us know relative health of monsters, but there are some that you never run into at low depths, what then?
On another note, I like the terse information on the family pages, then maybe make individual monster pages that use that nice huge template? The individual monster pages can then have in depth information and include strategy on fighting the monsters, etc.
Same thing for the weapons, a small table listing all the swords, but with links to individual weapon pages that can have the detailed info (animation information, recipe, where to get it). Right now the sword page looks nice, but given how many items are in this game, and many are still undiscovered, it may end up being quite bloated with the current format.
Amazing work so far Shoy :)
Mar, 10/19/2010 - 14:08
#39
Monsters do increase in
Monsters do increase in difficulty as you descend deeper into a dungeon, but that isn't due to the monsters, its due to the mechanics of the dungeon, also im trying a new system today, if you notice alot descriptions missing its not a hacker, Im removing them temporarily to see if we can get some offical descriptions.
Mar, 10/19/2010 - 15:43
#40
Okay! I made a table format
Okay! I made a table format similar to the two pages I linked earlier.
I updated Construct Family's page to show how it works.
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Construct_Family
How to use. [Enter Spacing is optional, but it works here for a visual aid.]
{{Table/Container
|First Column Title
|Second Column Title
|Third Column Title
|Fourth Column Title
|Fifth Column Title}}
{{Table/Entry
|basically fill these with stuff for under each column... 1st Col
|2nd Col
|3rd Col
|4th Col
|5th Col}}
|}
Make sure you finish it off with a |} to finish the table. This is outside of the templates. You guys can give it a spin. :3
Mar, 10/19/2010 - 16:00
#41
I personally prefer the
I personally prefer the earlier, less stylized one (see the Undead Family page). I think the drops and abilities should eventually be represented by images.
With the new one I think it would be better if the colors were consistent across the whole thing.
Mar, 10/19/2010 - 16:19
#42
Hm
Looks good.
Maybe change the grey to something else? It kind of stands out.
I prefer this over my simple tables :P
But I also liked the standalone versions a lot. I dunno.
Mar, 10/19/2010 - 16:45
#43
Debate amongst yourselves
Debate amongst yourselves which you like best. /shrug I like them both, but that's probably because I have creator-love for them or whatever.
Also, you're right, the grey does stand out quite a bit. Maybe I'll just make it the muted blue like the rest. The abilities colors are based off the In-Game Weapon Abilities Colors, but if you guys don't like it, I can change it. I just thought if it was one color all the way across it'd be a little monochromatic. (But that's my artistic taste, not practicality speaking.)
Either way, if you don't like what's there it can always be reverted! Or even if you decide to keep the tables, I could change the colors like Cire asked.
So yeah, take a poll or something. Haha. |3
Mié, 10/20/2010 - 08:10
#44
I prefer simple myself, so
I prefer simple myself, so consistent colors across the table would be best in my opinion.
Also, the Chromalisk page. The smallest ones are called Chroma Whelps, not Chromalisk Whelps. This is according to one of the earliest recon modules you encounter in game. I had put that originally and then fixed it when it got changed, and now it's changed again.
Mié, 10/20/2010 - 09:25
#45
Wouldn't the Sloom/Toxigel
Wouldn't the Sloom/Toxigel and possible Soul Jelly go into the same section as the of Lichen? It's only a different element. I posted a picture on a large "Sloom" with a sleep aura in the Lichen section.
Mié, 10/20/2010 - 10:20
#46
"if you notice alot
"if you notice alot descriptions missing its not a hacker, Im removing them temporarily to see if we can get some offical descriptions."
Why are we expecting official descriptions? Did a Ringer say somewhere they were coming and I missed it? That said, many of the descriptions I saw weren't very encyclopedic.
Mié, 10/20/2010 - 19:00
#47
Yes.
@Brightside Yes, alot of the Lichens are miss grouped, and need to be organized, also Royal Jellies need to be added, also thanks for the Sloom.
@Cire Nick, one one the Dev's, who wrote some of the descriptions, is on vacation, onces he returns we'll see his thoughts, and then plan accordingly. :D
Mié, 10/20/2010 - 21:13
#48
With the Blast Cubes, I think
With the Blast Cubes, I think there are two different kinds: regular Blast Cube with the same colouring as a blast block, and a Red/Super Blast Cube, which we have a screenshot of already. The difference other than appearance is that after the red one is defeated, it breaks into small red blobs which explode shortly after.
Jue, 10/21/2010 - 11:52
#49
I agree about the Blast
I agree about the Blast Cubes. Going to add that now.
Vie, 10/29/2010 - 16:46
#50
bomp
I don't normally like to bump week-old threads, but I feel that this needs to be addressed:
I am utmost confused about the Lichens and Slooms.
Take the Simple Sloom Lichen, for example. Where do I categorize it? Under Lichens or Slooms?
I'm going to update the Wiki on monsters along with stats (wry cant i edit abilitys wry) and I like to make the Wiki pretty and organized ^^
Here's a a list of Monters I got so far.
(all unkown monsters names are nicknamed in " ")
**Please note, alot of info regarding these monsters has been found by poking around in the games files, but I refuse to post and information regarding monsters not yet seen by players.**
Beast Family
Wolver- those adorable little fox/wolves
Alpha Wolver- the elder wolver that can buff the younger wolvers
Ash Wolver- the dark grey wolvers that can dissapear and reappear rapidly
Yellow Wolver- a regular wolver with a more yellowish hue
Alpha Ash Wolver- a alpha wolver with an ash wolvers abilites and characteristics
Chromalisk Whelp- a chameleon-esque creature with a long tounge, and the ability to camouflage in with its surroundings
Chromalisk- a larger and possibly older chromalisk, it keeps the same traits as its siblings, with small changes
Kleptolisk- a darker colored chromalisk, with no known special abilites
Virulisk- a chromalisk with a poisonous tounge
Deadly Virulisk- a larger posionous chromalisk, with some skin color changes, and a more potent posion
Bull Chromalisk- a chromalisk that has grown horns on its head
Dark Silkwing- the small glowing bat-like creatures that can heal wounded monsters
Silkwing Butterfly- similar to a dark silkwing, but with diffrent markings that appear to be more butterfly-like, and increased healing proficiency
Construct Family
Trojan- a large horse-headed boss with a crippling weakness
Knightmare- a trojan imbued with a dark power, used exclusivly by baron vanduke, but may also be confused with the "dark knight"
Lumber Golem- a half wood, half metal construct with a huge arm
Redward- simillar to a lumber golem, but with red wood
Tortodrone- a large turtle-esque beast that is totally harmless until prevoked
Gun Puppy- a cute little statue turned into a turret
Rocket Puppy- a simillar statue equiped with a rocket launcher
Love Puppy- A puppy that heals you and sometimes drops a trinket for it's BBFs
Red Puppy- a statue equiped with a flame thrower
Gun Puppy Mk2- an upgraded gun puppy with bullet spread
Fiend Family
Devilite Worker- a small, office supply chucking demon
Devilite Yes Man- a promoted deviling, does nothing but praise it's boss
Devilite Manager- a large blue deviling, it can promote, fire, or overwork his demon employees
Devilite Overtimer- a deviling thats been forced to work over the weekend
Fired Devilite- an enraged deviling thats been fired
Baron Vanaduke- a gigantic and powerful demon that resides deep within the depths of the Cradle
Gremlin Family
Gremlin Thwacker- your typical working gremlin, equiped with a hammer
Gremlin Thwacker(2)- a diffrently colored gremin with a damage blocking shield on it's back
Gremlin Demo- a gremlin equiped with explosives and mines
Gremlin Scorcher- a gremlin equiped with a flamethrower
Gremlin Mender- a gremlin with a wand and a knowledge of magic
Slime Family
Jelly Cube- your typical pink slime
Brute Cube- a blue slime, better than pink
Blast Cube- an explosive slime, that detonates apon death
Rock Cube- a slime with a stone atop it, that may be made of concrete
Lichen- a slime with a need to merge with other lichens around it
Tri Lichen- a red lichen with a spike attack, try to avoid letting them get this far
Deep Tri Lichen- a HUGE horned lichen with a large area attack
Toxigel- a lichen that can inflict posion, also seen with spike like growths, this lichen is not yet know to be created through merging
Simple Sloom Lichen- a bluish lichen with odd carvings on its core and spikes, can put players to sleep, it also completely skips the tradtional lichen evolution as well
Sloom Lichen- a sloom lichen in the "deep" stage, while possessing the same attacks, it has a unique arua that instanly puts anyone who gets within melee range to sleep
Soul Jelly- an aqua jelly, or possibly a lichen based on it's body shape, with a skull inside it
Impostocube- an extremely handsome and dapper jelly cube
Undead Family
Dust Zombie- your typical undead
Poison Zombie- a skeleton with tribal-esque markings whos breath is posionous
Fire Zombie- a skeleton suffering from spontaneous combustion, and is a novice fire-breather
Fire Zombie Knight- a fire zombie armed with a spear, some armor, and a shield, they are all duty bound to protect baron vanaduke
Spookat- a pink ghostkat, that only seems to be adorably harmless
Mewkat- a completely harmless white cat that sometimes offers a rare hat
Blue Spookat- a large blue ghostkat that can freeze you
Green Spookat- a sad green ghostkat that can posion you