Spiral Knights - Ths is PROJECT MADAM only the most adorable girls can read this.

Ths is PROJECT MADAM only the most adorable girls can read this.

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Thu, 08/08/2013 - 09:57

Dekuinanutshell

Hello there LADIES are you tired of having just one dress to wear that can suite you FEMININE needs? Is that heavenly Iron armor too weighty on your body? Well look no further, introducing PROJECT MADAM! Where only the best in FEMALE needs are acquired; we're talking jewlery, dresses, fitted bows, and drapes! Come on down LADIES and enjoy this wonderful CR and E melting idea!

Introducing NEW DRESSES!

With every lady comes a different unique dress. Each dress is hand crafted with aluminum, and silk aloes that give your dress the endurance of time. They also include multiple colors to give you that special FEMININE taste that every LADY would love to gaze at to times indefinite!

With the new aluminum and silk aloe we can now machine wash the dresses, No more dry cleaning!

Introducing Jewelry pendants!

Every GIRL loves it, no GIRL can live without it, heck when it comes to marrage you NEED it. What am I talking about? JEWELRY! Specially fitted earrings that dazzle your knights helmet are just plane adorable, and lets not forget the most prized one of all Jewlery pendants! With every Jewlery pendent that is derived not from the common minerals from Cradel but exotic rare to find minerals that have been harvested deep inside Cradels depths to give your jewelry the most braggadocious appeal of all time. Plus lets not forget that the prismatic gems are the shiniest of all!

Introducing NEW AURAS!

With every dazzling LADY out there lets not forget that only the best WOMEN will need a special dazzle for times to come. With a glitter aura all you LADIES can enjoy the most glitterful idea that will bring out those sparkling eyes of yours. Also they help brighten up your day :D Along with this we also have the Manly aura because every GIRL has a tough side to them and even GIRLS need a little kick into their days. With the manly aura all the guys are going to be looking for that self supportive, strong independent WOMAN of their dreams!

Introducing PICTURES! :D

http://dekuinanutshell.deviantart.com/art/Project-Madam-391701030

Introducing Aditional comments!

Hopefully this gets noticed and considered by the developers and they consider these adorable fashionable ideas. But if you're a guy that doesn't want to look all girly, heh check out Project sir where only the manliest men can enter and read that forum, and if you're wondering why the words manlieset and men weren't in caps thats because this is Project Madam not Project Sir. Take care guys and if you like please slap a +1 on this forum and lets keep it active for the Developers to notice.

Thu, 08/08/2013 - 10:02

Gabrihel

Dresses are cool!

And why don't introduce Pochette? Pochettes are cool too!

However: +10000000000000000000

Thu, 08/08/2013 - 10:09

Mtax

This is [flippin'] action

This is [flippin'] action fighting game, not dress up toy.
Better get some facebook gaems.

Thu, 08/08/2013 - 10:16

Dekuinanutshell

@Mtax

For one this game holds "Accessories" to customize the look of your character. It does not hold any gender atributes let alone any strong hardcore violence. Its a game designed for everyone 10 and up and has 8 accessory anchor points, within those anchor points are over 50 different accessories and within those 50 accessories come multiple colors and arrays for each and every accessory and you're going to say its "not a dress up toy"? Plus did I forget to mention there are a CRAP TON of multiple costumes, and armors to best suit your style and the game includes wearing other armors as a costume. So its not just about action my dear Mtax its also about customization and in a sense dress up.

Thu, 08/08/2013 - 10:18

Dekuinanutshell

@gabrihel

Ponchette are also awesome I could see that working for multiple suits including the wolver line :D

Thu, 08/08/2013 - 10:40

Hexzyle

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Thu, 08/08/2013 - 10:45

Warp-Master

Best. Costume set. Ever.

Thu, 08/08/2013 - 10:56

Levenzaa

-1

Because we will get Transvestites.

Thu, 08/08/2013 - 11:10

Hexzyle

Rebooting complete.

Levenza obviously has some eonaphobic issues.

Thu, 08/08/2013 - 11:24

Levenzaa

@Hexzyle

I haven't got any fears/Phobias. I'm just saying that the Majority of Gamers are men and I don't wanna walk around Haven seeing Men Knights wearing dresses. I'm aloud to say that without having that phobia. I never even heard of it. Made me laugh :P I guess you learn something new every day c :

Thu, 08/08/2013 - 11:55

#10

Dekuinanutshell

IMPROSIBRUUUUU

There is no way in hell you're gonna tell me that you dont have a phobia. I dunno about you guys but I think hes hiding something. Everyone has a phobia even I do :3 But lets be honest here we have 2 projects in discussion and they seem to be doing well as far as im concerned wouldn't it be more acceptable to let players enjoy the game the way they want instead of forcing them to stay in one ordered column?

Thu, 08/08/2013 - 12:57

#11

Hexzyle

@Levenza

I'm just saying that the Majority of Gamers are men

Firstly, in a virtual environment, everyone is genderless. Unless this is a dating or pornographic site, which it isn't. You should can your stereotypes, the gender of a person online has absolutely no definitive inclination on their behaviour, and shouldn't be forced on their appearance either.

I don't wanna walk around Haven seeing Men Knights wearing dresses

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Valkyrie_Mail
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Spiral_Tailed_Helm
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Maid_Headband
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Spiral_Culet
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Spiral_Draped_Armor
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:Usable-Delicate_Eyes.png

You already see these, what's the problem? Is the disturbing part the Adam's apple or the apparently evident to you and you only bulge in the front of their lower abdomen?

Thu, 08/08/2013 - 18:31

#12

Zeddy

Still wanna see these

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/61986

Thu, 08/08/2013 - 18:59

#13

Soulstaker

I guess there should be

I guess there should be feminine accesories but what if I wanted one of them because they look cool? I have enough people thinking I'm a girl because I wear a frosty tailed costume and it gets even worse if they try to hit on me and I just go wtf I'm a guy D:

Thu, 08/08/2013 - 23:36

#14

Gabrihel

rename your pet "He's a Guy"

..or become omosexual...

BETTER IDEA:
Joke with them for materials, orbs and other precious things XDXDXDXDXD

Fri, 08/09/2013 - 00:28

#15

Hexzyle

@Soulstaker

You've never thought of playing along? It's an online game, people who flirt with you online aren't actually serious about "hooking up", it's just for fun. Live a little.

Fri, 08/09/2013 - 01:07

#16

Klipik-Forum

Ehhhh... Not as keen on these

Not because I'm a guy and I wouldn't wear them... But I'm afraid someone somewhere will go pointing feminist double standard fingers and I would rather that didn't happen. That's just for the dresses. The rest is fine. Why? Because dresses make no sense in a combat situation, but everything else is unobtrusive.

Fri, 08/09/2013 - 03:01

#17

Mtax

"Hey, OOO. Can you stahp pls making content and make some new costumes? What? New promo? Wat? With accesories and new armors type for everyone?! No! No, no no no no. I mean some new useless costumes for 10% of players. What? WHY NOT!? IMA GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!11!1!111!!!!!11!1111!111"

Fri, 08/09/2013 - 03:29

#18

Dekuinanutshell

@ Klipik-Forum

So you're telling me dresses have no point?

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Heavenly_Iron_Armor
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Armor_of_the_Fallen
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Valkyrie_Mail

So far it seems that we have more sexist players then usual and with 2 projects to level out the sexist scale it seems that female accessories are not worth as much as male accessories in your opinion. So before you continue please have in mind the consideration of others before you type.

Fri, 08/09/2013 - 04:12

#19

Mtax

Nobody uses them =D

Fri, 08/09/2013 - 05:10

#20

Hexzyle

@Mtax

I beg to differ

Fri, 08/09/2013 - 06:41

#21

The-Mighty-Potato

@Hex

"You already see these, what's the problem?" Nothing. I just don't see why we need dresses for a game like this. A combat game. This game is an Action, adventure MMORPG. This involves fighting, not fashion.

Fri, 08/09/2013 - 07:46

#22

Kripur

@Potato

You haven't played TERA, have you? Aion also comes to mind. Vindictus as well.

Personally I'm amused that there's such a pushback against the idea when cosmetic features run rampant in many MMOs, action-heavy or not.

Fri, 08/09/2013 - 08:53

#23

Hexzyle

@The-Mighty-Potato

This involves fighting, not fashion.

If so then why don't all our armors look identical? Why allow the use of accessories in the first place? If we truly were Knights in an army, a unified force, there would be an enforced uniform.
You can suppress the ability to express personality all you like for "logic's sake" but it doesn't make the game any more fun to look at or play.

Fri, 08/09/2013 - 09:29

#24

Klipik-Forum

@Dek

Those aren't as pronounced as your design. Yours looks like a freaking wedding dress, and if you tried to run in it you'd probably get caught and twist your legs off.

Fri, 08/09/2013 - 09:41

#25

Hexzyle

Designs can easily be shortened.

:O Spiral Skirts

Fri, 08/09/2013 - 16:23

#26

Dekuinanutshell

@the sexist army.

For one, the dresses in spiral knights are used by MULTIPLE players that have aquired it in lockdown and many other fassions. It's a unique way to make players show a feminine side to how they would like their characters portrayed and it has great defense for piercing, shadow and normal defense.

Secondly the dresses are measured around knee length making them already "hard to walk in" yet the player walks around just like any other armor in the game. Another example that should be compared is the demolition suit. The suit is heavy, clunky and thus no knight should be able to even walk swiftly in such a heavily armored gear yet they RUN in that gear like it is no problem. Soooo why shouldn't a game implement such a fashion for dresses as well?

Thirdly, ITS A GAME!!! Since when do physics apply to a sword that is 2x the size of the knight and they swing it with 1 hand at ease? Since when do skinny puny huminoid creatures run around flailing a gun half their size (cough cough blitz) Since when is it logical to run around with a bomb and survive your own blast radius let alone place multiple bombs that come from a heavenly restock clip from heaven? What am I getting at? This isn't real let alone should it be made "real" because its here for our entertainment and if players approve tuxedos then damnit they should approve victorian dresses as well!

Fri, 08/09/2013 - 20:46

#27

Klipik-Forum

But tuxes are funny.

Sat, 08/10/2013 - 03:03

#28

The-Mighty-Potato

@Hex

"If so then why don't all our armors look identical?" Because Armor is used for different situations. Plus this game would be boring if it only had 1 5 Star Armor set. Skolver for Piercing Freeze levels, Grey Feather for Elemental Fire/Shock levels.

"Why allow the use of accessories in the first place?" My guess is that it's a fun-little addition to the game. Dressers are different to Accessories...

Sat, 08/10/2013 - 03:40

#29

Pawsmack

@Klipik-Forum

Whoa, whoa, whoa... Who ever said that OOO's would implement that exact design?

+1 to the thread, the game needs to be a bit more balanced in terms of customization.

Sat, 08/10/2013 - 10:06

#30

Dekuinanutshell

@pawsmack

I hope you know what a suggestion is I mean seriously speaking would you implement a design that looks as poorly drawn as that scribble I did there? I doubt it, I made this forum to display an idea not to say OOO make it look exactly like this.

Sat, 08/10/2013 - 17:27

#31

Dekuinanutshell

Note

Please keep in mind that Project Sir is still around its in the next tab if anyone is here to decline project madam so much please check out that forum for more information.

Sat, 08/10/2013 - 19:00

#32

Orangeo

I expected more adorable

I expected more adorable girls

Though as for project sir, I could use a nice tux. Ladies love butler Orangeo.

Or perhaps a nice trenchcoat with an undershirt like Sir Henry MotherFer from no more heroes;
http://images.wikia.com/nomoreheroes/images/4/4e/Nmh-henry.jpg

Sat, 08/10/2013 - 19:54

#33

Pawsmack

@OP/ Dekuinanutshell

You misunderstood my message... I was talking to Klipik-Forum, telling him exactly what you just told me. Please read my previous message over again.

Sat, 08/10/2013 - 21:03

#34

Ink-Incorporated

I'm a male, and I wear a Radiant Silvermail. Is that bad, Levenza?

Sun, 08/11/2013 - 02:08

#35

The-Mighty-Potato

@Ink

What do you think? I don't have a problem with it if it gets the job done...

I don't understand why everyone thinks I'm being stereotypical. I'm pretty sure almost anyone would agree that there are more male gamers than female. Why is this causing so many problems? Besides Radiant Silvermails useful for Concrete Jungle, SSL, and possibly any slime levels (if you use GF). I would just use a costume to go over it, although I don't have it.

Sun, 08/11/2013 - 02:32

#36

Dekuinanutshell

@pawsmack

Sorry about that kinda glazed over the letters. ^^;

Sun, 08/11/2013 - 02:42

#37

Dekuinanutshell

@potato

Regardless of weather or not you are a male or a female the subject of the matter is that there needs to be neutrality on this matter. If people are upvoting one project over the other due to a minor gender issue there isn't neutrality something that should've been respected a long long time ago. Secondly even if there is a majority of male vs female that majority needs to be weighed out equal regardless of the percentile range. Lastly even if there are more males then females a lot of men would enjoy developing a character that suits their needs. Maybe they prefer having their character in a dress because it reminds them of a character they designed or developed, maybe they want their character to look like another character from a different game/series or maybe they just don't care at all about a matter and think they can bang out a good lookin character with a dress the excuses are endless but yet people are shooting it down because "they don't want there being men dressing up in dresses."

Sun, 08/11/2013 - 05:43

#38

Pixlator

Not just more costume

(nearly) Every armors (including helmets) need the girl version, but armors like firebreak armor and helmets like mighty cobalt helmet needs the man version.

Note : i'm a man, don't complain

Sun, 08/11/2013 - 06:49

#39

Orangeo

Cobalt is pretty gender

Cobalt is pretty gender neutral.

Again, I wouldn't oppose more female armor, but you seem to think there's a chance of SK having as much female armor as male armor. The fact is that isn't going to happen. Why?

1) Because more men play video games than women. You want more female armor in the game so that women can look unique, right? If I've got twice as many men as I do women in my game, I need to make half as many female armors for men and women to be equally unique amongst themselves.

2) Because women dressing up as men isn't as funny as men dressing up as women. Is that completely sexist? Yes. However, it's also completely true. Wore a girl for the genderbending day of my school spirit week, I certainly looked allot funnier than she did with mens clothing and a mustache. Of course, I make a great loli and I was able to say that I technically "got in her pants".

3) Because most "male" armor is actually neutral armor. No, this isn't a continuation of my last point. When you typically play MMO's, or video games in general, men have standard looking armor, but women have a bikini with a few metal plates. People think women have to be more feminine than men have to be masculine. This leads to neutral armor seeming "unladylike" when it's really for everyone.

Sun, 08/11/2013 - 08:08

#40

Hexzyle

@Orangeo

Sorry, but I have yet to encounter a game that has substantially less female items than male items. (hairstyles, clothes, etc)

Because women dressing up as men isn't as funny as men dressing up as women.

Video game characters don't have dicks. How can you tell if a video game character is a man or a woman? It's purely dependant on the hairstyle and clothes. Not what's underneath.

Because most "male" armor is actually neutral armor. No, this isn't a continuation of my last point. When you typically play MMO's, or video games in general, men have standard looking armor, but women have a bikini with a few metal plates. People think women have to be more feminine than men have to be masculine. This leads to neutral armor seeming "unladylike" when it's really for everyone.

While you do have a good point here, the problem is that there is female armor in this game, and the selection is very small. If the selection were to be expanded by another couple of models, it would be perfectly fine.

Sun, 08/11/2013 - 08:15

#41

Orangeo

You've yet to encounter a

You've yet to encounter a game with substantially less female items than male items? Isn't that what OP thinks the problem with SK is?

As for the dix. The characters don't have them, but the players do (sometimes). If I'm in a dress and I say "btw I'm guy" it's weirder than wearing a tux and saying "btw I'm a girl".

Though yeah I just want a couple of models. Seems like Dekus wants 50-50 though.

Sun, 08/11/2013 - 11:11

#42

Wavara

Rule 30

Because more men play video games than women. You want more female armor in the game so that women can look unique, right? If I've got twice as many men as I do women in my game, I need to make half as many female armors for men and women to be equally unique amongst themselves.

Women aren't the only one wearing dresses. I can bet you that half of the "girls" you see in the MMOs are guys. That's why they say "There are No Girls on the Internet".

Sun, 08/11/2013 - 11:24

#43

Hexzyle

@Orangeo

If I'm in a dress and I say "btw I'm guy" it's weirder than wearing a tux and saying "btw I'm a girl".

Hardly, because that stuff doesn't matter online. How many female characters are actually being played by guys? Billions. If males like the female body, it's only natural that some will want to have their character in the image of it (some for testosterone reasons, some not)

Seems like Dekus wants 50-50 though.

50-50 is a bit excessive.

Sun, 08/11/2013 - 23:30

#44

Vengear

I think it'll be cool if this

I think it'll be cool if this game allows players to choose the Knight's gender.there'll be female and male knights.nice~ for me at least. :D

Mon, 08/12/2013 - 09:48

#45

Dekuinanutshell

@hexzyle

How is it that you defend gender benders so much and then say 50-50 is excessive? Thats like me going out to the market, asking for whole milk but i want half of whats in the gallon because "its a bit excessive." Make up your mind do you want there to be more diversity on costumes or just keep the items in neutrality with armors that you cant even tell who they are.

Mon, 08/12/2013 - 10:05

#46

Inferno-Forum

Derpuraptor strikes back

Levenza, there are already girls with mustaches and men with those girly eyes I forgot the name of.
Anyway, +1.

Mon, 08/12/2013 - 10:42

#47

Hexzyle

@Dekuinanutshell

How is it that you defend gender benders so much and then say 50-50 is excessive?

50% genderless clothes - 50% female clothes is excessive. It would be a different story if males were clearly defined in the game, but they're not.
Aiming for 50% female armors means you'd need to add ~8 more lines of armor that are distinctly female.

Mon, 08/12/2013 - 14:11

#48

Dekuinanutshell

Derp

I see where you're going at. But it would be nice to have more female armors that aren't just limited towards dresses. Look at the dragon scale armor that alone has defenition of female atributes but i feel that these can be branched out much more better and much more wider.

Tue, 08/13/2013 - 04:01

#49

Remove-The-Forge

@hex #25 Or

@hex #25

Or lifted.

...Goddammit, me >.>

Tue, 08/13/2013 - 05:21

#50

Hexzyle

I'd link an image here, but I can only find ones from Booru-engine sites, and I'd rather not post anything from anywhere near there on this forum.

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