The flourish is popular across the entire world of players, but in lockdown its never that fun to watch everyone use them when PvP is about variety and outcomes. A decent nerf would be to lower the attack damage/speed by a decent amount, just seeing such constant use of the very same weapon is one of the most annoying things you would see in any game with PvP combat. While it is good for killing trojans and devilites, it should be weakened for everyone to have a chance to enjoy playing lockdown without being destroyed by flourish users on their first game. PvP isn't about outcomes, but instead it is about battling other players and having fun while doing so, and it's definitely not about swinging toothpick-shaped weapons at each other for 3-8 minutes. The value of these weapons is just too painful to withstand being that they are used so much in lockdown that players will sometimes become aggressive and avoid the main objective of the PvP game itself.
Nerf flourish line for lockdown players
+1 Kimahsonite
As a Cutter fan, this isn't fair. Flourishes aren't my thing, yet I like fast swords. I want SOMETHING to show for my speedy speed blade. Atleast I could say "I HAVE THE FASTEST SWORD IN THE GAME!!!!"
Bump, lol.
You may not realise it but this has been suggested about 87 bazillion times.
If there was no response to the previous ones, there probably won't be a response to yours.
Here's a thing to think about:
In LD you want to pick the best weapons you can have (hell, in any game).
If you nerf the flourish line, the next best weapon will become the new 'flourish'.
Players will always gravitate to the best possible loadout and people who can't handle that loadout will complain.
Who are you to say what PvP is for? Some people play to win, are they not allowed to play PvP now because they are going for "the wrong objective"?
What we REALLY need for LD is a rank system, similar to many other competitive multiplayer games. That would separate the new players from the vets and give them a chance to learn before getting destroyed by flourishes. Plus, flourish is not the only viable playstyle either. It is simply the easiest of the non-spam styles (spam being AT flourish combos, most usage of rocket hammers, excessive pulsar use, etc). Other styles like gunning, bombing, brandish, or a hybrid of any of those can be just as viable as flourish if you take the time to learn it.
I think the most reasonable and effective nerf for the toothpicks is decreasing the range on the first swing by about 45 degrees (22.5 on either side). The strength of a flourish is all in the first swing, and it is preferred over the brandishes because of the wider hitbox. Shrink the hitbox, shrink the appeal.
As Feyi said, something will always be the best weapon at something. In LD, the most popular weapon will always be the one that does the most dps and is easiest to use. And because this is an F2P game where people pay irl money for these things, you can't go nerfing and buffing everything. Yes it can be tolerated up to a point, but there's a line.
Before you ask, yes I use a toothpick. (Snarble line.)
Why nerf it just for lockdown? It's first strike is even faster the cutter's first strike which is meant to be the fastest weapon in the game. How about decrease the speed of the first strike by a third?