Spiral Knights - Reversal of location for AH Purchase/Accept

Reversal of location for AH Purchase/Accept

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Jue, 09/05/2013 - 15:04

Dhmorgousbord

*If this has been suggested before: sorry, I'm a good person; don't eat me D:
*It's a good idea to look through some of the posts in this thread to get a better hold on where I'm coming from with this

Before I start, this is just an idea of mine. Don't kill me for it, critique it
Alright, I'll jump right into things. In the current system to browse the Auction House you have to be at the Auction House whether it's the one in Haven or in a Guild Hall. To pick up the items you win, however, it doesn't matter where you are as it comes in the mail. What I think would be nice (and I may be the only one who thinks this but I hope not!) is if these positions were reversed. This would mean that you could browse the AH from anywhere. (Haven, Guild Halls, Ready Room, Missions, Arcade, etc.) However, to pick up any purchased items or any money from selling items one would have to visit the Auction House. (Guild Hall or Haven) In this regard, a notice would come in the mail instead of the actual item. As a side note, players would still be able to access the Auction House via the locations in Haven and Guild Halls.

Benefits

Opens up activity possibilities during auctions (No more "I'm trying to win this back-and-forth auction so I can't do anything else except stand in Haven at the AH.")

No more constant crowd in front of the Auction House (spreads out players)

Something to do in those off minutes (A party member has to do something for a few minutes; Waiting for the next match to start in the Coliseum; Waiting for an elevator to change to a different level; etc.)

Accessing the Auction House becomes more convenient (Anytime you want)

Drawbacks

No more constant crowd in front of the Auction House (Normal chat advertising loses usefulness) This, however, may convince more people to use Trade chat instead

Auction House in Guild Hall becomes less useful

Picking up money and items becomes less convenient (No more 'log into the Ready Room--pick up money from sold items--log off')

If you have more Benefits/Drawbacks or opinions, please share them! I know I can't think of everything. Maybe there's a game-changing problem with this that I've overlooked; tell me :o

Jue, 09/05/2013 - 15:24

Mickmane

Please don't.

Where's the benefit of having to go to the Auction House to pick up your stuff?

If I could have accessed it anywhere, I would not have bougth an AH for the Guild Hall (or went to an empty Haven prior to that update to put my stuff on).

As it is now, I can accept what sold wherever I am, make notes on what I need to put on when I'm back from wherever I am, and have peace putting it on.
I rarely do any bid wars, I want to check the things I check in peace, not when on a run, and when I'm in Haven it tends to be through having joined a friend, wherever they may be.

When I read the subject, I was thinking it was about adding WTB offers to AH, that sellers could click. Now that's a reverse I'd like.
Maximum offer for the revers of bid-wars (sellers click, wanting less each time), and a Sell Now at the lowest offer (what's Buy Now for selling).

Jue, 09/05/2013 - 15:56

Dhmorgousbord

@Mickmane

Er, did I say that having to go to the auction house to pick up is a benefit somewhere? If I did, oops, that's a drawback. The choice I'm thinking of is "Would I rather be able to collect my stuff anywhere or bid/buy/sell anywhere?" I've seen games use both systems and both work in their own respects (though I'm a fan of bid/buy/sell anywhere, hence this thread). Some sort of balancing (price wise or usability wise) would need to go to the in Guild Hall AH, yes.
And this by no means means (double) that you won't be able to check things in peace D: Accessing anywhere can be, well, anywhere! I just see more reasons why people may need to use the AH during a run than receive their stuffs during a run (although there are arguments for both sides). Also, I like your suggestion; there's a lot of stuff like that that could be added to ye Auction House

This would take getting used, that's certain, but, well, Three Rings have been changing everything in the game these days anyway lol

Jue, 09/05/2013 - 18:09

Logicia

Hmm

I'll +1 this idea although my opinion is biased

Vie, 09/06/2013 - 02:28

Mickmane

Cytrixx wrote: Er, did I say that having to go to the auction house to pick up is a benefit somewhere?

It's 50% of your suggeestion, so it's only reasonable to assume you think it's beneficial to someone, whether players or developers, veterans or newbies, Game Masters or artists,..

Else, why did you suggest something that's no good for anyone?

Cytrixx wrote: Three Rings have been changing everything in the game these days anyway

The gods of SK adding an awkward UI is no argument towards adding an awkward way of picking stuff up from AH.

It isn't funny.

Vie, 09/06/2013 - 05:09

Dhmorgousbord

@Mick

Hoh? I wasn't trying to be funny with this. Mentioning that things are hanging merely says that the game and the player base (some to most) are still in a mindset of change and therefore something like this (or any change of an existing system) will be less of a hit in the face. This isn't game breaking, I know that, at least most wouldn't think so. You might be taking this too seriously; remember this is just my suggestion not a feature that will ever be implemented (probably)

Suppose the change to the energy system was someone's suggestion. As much as the removal of the ability to revive people with health would have been a suggestion so it is for my removal of the ability to pick up through mail. It's a side effect. If one could remotely access the AH and remotely pick up your stuff the system would break and Auction houses would become useless. It has to be one way or the other. As a side effect it's not particularly helpful to anyone most likely as the loss of health revives didn't benefit anyone either.

Vie, 09/06/2013 - 05:32

Mickmane

Cytrixx wrote. "I wasn't trying to be funny with this."
You added the 'lol', not me.

"the player base (some to most) are still in a mindset of change"
Please back this up with actual data of asking the players.

Your assumption about it being less of a hit in the face is not true. It'd replace something working perfectly with something awkward to tend.
Hey, I found a possible advantage for you; the gods of SK might prefer people selling less stuff on AH. They do more and more curb reselling business, more in that direction could be in their interest.

"This isn't game breaking, I know that, at least most wouldn't think so."
Where's your poll data about 'most wouldn't think so'?

"Suppose the change to the energy system..."
I'm talking about having to go to the AH to pick up crowns for my items sold. Presumably after getting a mail that it did get sold. Here's another drawback: redundancy.

"the loss of health revives didn't benefit anyone either"
Making things up won't back up your point. (I certainly die a lot less, playing on Elite at that.)

Please do replace all your 'most players' with 'in my opinion'.

Vie, 09/06/2013 - 06:41

Agentz

A good start...

Perhaps we should just focus on bidding wars. If someone outbids you, you get a notice in the mail. It would make more sense to add a "Place Bid" button in the outbid notice in case you are in missions or whatever. ~Z

Vie, 09/06/2013 - 08:30

Mickmane

Agentz wrote: "Perhaps we should just focus on bidding wars. If someone outbids you, you get a notice in the mail. It would make more sense to add a "Place Bid" button in the outbid notice in case you are in missions or whatever."

Now that's a neat idea. :)

Vie, 09/06/2013 - 10:10

Dhmorgousbord

@people

I assume that since things have been changing, players have change in their minds. While it may be an assumption, it's a very easy and likely one. Same with whether it's game breaking; I know it is not as other games use this system and there isn't any part of that damages a major part of the game. I assume that most players would see that there are no game breaking features as well; I'm not saying most players will like it rather they won't find it game breaking.

While Agentz idea would work well for bidding wars, what I'm looking for with this suggestion goes further. Convienience for all bidding/buying/selling (minus that picking-up part, as stated). There isn't anything controversies about this suggestion (as far as I can see) though you make it seem like there is. I (my opinion is) see this change as more beneficial than detrimental and have therefore suggested it

While the current system may be working, I see this as an improvement. Take the UI for example: the old UI worked "perfectly" however it was still changed. Why was it changed? Because the people at Three Rings thousght it would work better as I think this would work better. Replacing a working system with another system does not make the new system automatically bad. :: Where is the redundency more in this idea? Rather than going back to the AH everytime you need to rebid on something, buy something or sell something you'd go only when there was something to pick up. :: Tell me who benefitted from the loss of health revives rather than saying I made it up. Who benefitted?

Vie, 09/06/2013 - 10:47

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Mickmane

Cytrixx, if you don't read replies, I don't see any point in typing more. Good bye.

Vie, 09/06/2013 - 11:33

#11

Dhmorgousbord

Uh, how could I refute what

Uh, how could I refute what you said if I didn't read your posts...I don't know what you mean. Goodbye I guess

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Reversal of location for AH Purchase/Accept