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Mié, 09/18/2013 - 19:10
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Earthboundimmortal

I think this has been suggested before but I think this will be different.
Scythes will have a 2 hit swing were the scythe makes a wide arc both times. (also much faster but weaker than current "Heavy" weapons e.x. Divine Avenger, Graun Faust e.t.c)
All will have shadow/normal damage.
The charge attack will make a small blast (about the size of 1/2 a 3* blast bomb) and have a small chance of dealing curse(or whatever type you use) to you and to enemies.
It will have a poison, fire, freeze, stun, curse versions (with poison/fire/freeze/stun doing medium to them and small to you on charge).
Any suggestions?

Mié, 09/18/2013 - 19:24
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Martial
SCYTHES

The 5 stars should have a phantom image of a zombie when swinging (Much like the Wild Hunting Blade and Snarby weapons charge attacks).

THESE THINGS WILL LOOK SOOO COOL IF DONE RIGHT.

Mié, 09/18/2013 - 19:27
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Earthboundimmortal
Good idea

A zombie or a phantom (those terrifying purple things in graveyards) would be a cool thing.

Mié, 09/18/2013 - 20:11
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Dementia-Praecox
Pfft.

I wonder when people will realize that scythes are terrible weapons compared to traditional ones. If anything, I'd want it to be a Halberd, which is superior to a scythe in almost every way and is far more versatile in combat. Though this is a game and doesn't necessarily use weapons strictly to their boundaries, a scythe is still illogical. It would do little to no damage except for a certain range and since it's only good for swinging, its effectiveness in combat would be severely limited.

Mié, 09/18/2013 - 20:51
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Klipik-Forum
@Dementia

Why not both... and add a gun, for good measure.

Mié, 09/18/2013 - 21:00
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Abelisk
No.

→A better suggestion...←

Mié, 09/18/2013 - 21:06
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Its-Some-Secret

@Dementia

maybe it could be the 5 star upgrade of the winmillion

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Why Not add spears, more range of swipe in exchange for less attack.

The Spears should be 1 of each type

Mié, 09/18/2013 - 21:07
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Klipik-Forum
@Utrex

Spears are entirely different though.

Mié, 09/18/2013 - 21:22
#8
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Earthboundimmortal
uhhh people?

This doesn't have to be logical, for example, in this game there are giant phoenixes that pop out of guns.
Also it couldn't be a spear/lance (at least for this thread) cause those are stabs, and scythes are large sideswipes.
Also, you can think about it like a Archeon that can cause statuses fused with a troika. (except the speed of a medium speed sword)

Mié, 09/18/2013 - 21:40
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Klipik-Forum
@Earthbound

Now it just sounds overpowered...

Mié, 09/18/2013 - 23:02
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Dementia-Praecox
Meh.

Scythes are like chainsaws. They are primarily gardening equipment, used as improvised weapons when nothing else is available, and aren't actually effective against living opponents at all. The general reason why people think that they're good weapons is because of culture making them appear as such, or mythology in some cases. Take the Grim Reaper, IE, Death. He uses one because he is literally the harvester of souls, not because he goes chopping people down with one. Anyone that expects to be taken seriously with a piece of gardening equipment used as an improvised weapon should not be taken seriously. The vast majority of the times that scythes were used against another man was because the wielder in question was too poor (by wealth or by current circumstance) to afford using anything that's an actual weapon. We're knights, not gardeners. We can do better than that.

Jue, 09/19/2013 - 07:49
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Khamsin
.

Whenever I think of scythes being used as weapons, my mind immediately jumps to SICKLES being used as weapons. Which I would approve of.

Jue, 09/19/2013 - 12:05
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Martial
Doubters

I wouldn't want a weapon a weapon solely for how effective it is in real life. This is a videogame! What weapons you use depends solely on stats and how bad@$$ is looks.

Jue, 09/19/2013 - 12:13
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Little-Juances

"We're knights, not gardeners. We can do better than that."

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Slime_Slasher

Jue, 09/19/2013 - 12:33
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Arilys
"Bye bye, Billy!"

Note the fact that the Slime Slasher and Super Slime Slasher are 0 and 1 star weapons. The OP is suggesting scythes for 5 star weapons. :P

It makes some sense (to me, at least) that new knights, which have just crash landed on the planet, use the first weapons they can find. At least until they're given a Calibur or a Brandish some missions later.

Jue, 09/19/2013 - 12:54
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Little-Juances

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Scissor_Blades
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Mighty_Great_Cleaver
Joke reskin that shouldn't be used in combat but are ingame anyways.

If you're worried about the shape of a scythe and how it should deal damage, talk to flourishes.

Jue, 09/19/2013 - 13:16
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Arilys
"Water... gun"

Fair enough. But those are reskins of existing weapons. And I've yet to see someone using them seriously as opposed to trolling in LD or using them just to heat them to level 10.

In all honesty, though, I couldn't care less if they decided to put scythes in the game. As long as they have their own swing animations so it doesn't look like we're swinging them the wrong way every other swipe, I'd be fine with it. I'm almost done crafting all the gear in the game so Vog knows I'm hoping they add new weapon recipes in a few months.

I do think that piercing 4 and 5 star Antiguas should have come out already though.

Jue, 09/19/2013 - 13:56
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Khamsin
@arilys

"I do think that piercing 4 and 5 star Antiguas should have come out already though."

For sure.

Jue, 09/19/2013 - 14:17
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Dekuinanutshell
Lawn blade ftw!

The only way we would innitiate a curse type weapon again is if it has a major drawback on the character themselves but hey who am I to talk when I use gran faust in lockdown :B

Jue, 09/19/2013 - 15:17
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Glad-Amparus
Well beside the fact that

Well beside the fact that spears are different than scythes I think this is a +1.

Only thing I recommend: New battle style. Not the lame-same boring-dooring 2-hit attack. No, really. You should change the attack style imo.

Jue, 09/19/2013 - 16:04
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Earthboundimmortal
k, so

So I guess it could be a slice and then a smash to their head.

Jue, 09/19/2013 - 18:35
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Earthboundimmortal
Some design ideas for them

The fire one would have some flames circling the metal part, the poison would have some poison dripping off of it, the stun would just have a bigger metal part, the freeze would have a freeze aura to it, and the curse would have a ghosty aura circling it

Jue, 09/19/2013 - 19:48
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Martial
Scythes and chainsaws are

Scythes and chainsaws are equally scary in my book. I feel that popular culture has turned them both into much more intimidating things then they originally were. There is a certain terrifying brutality to them. I would find being chased by a cackling psycho wielding a chainsaw and/or (dual wield!) scythe than I would a maniac with a gun (assuming that they had storm trooper aim)/ knife. I find bombs more unnerving than any of these... but not as outright scary.

Vie, 09/20/2013 - 18:09
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Earthboundimmortal
So...

Can i have a +1 -1 vote, just wanna see how many people are ok with it.
also, if u say -1, can u say why?

Dom, 09/22/2013 - 14:19
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Earthboundimmortal
wait really?

why don't people vote, it takes about 10-30 secs

Dom, 09/22/2013 - 15:24
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Skyguarder

Do not bump up your suggestion thread more than once. ._.

Dom, 09/22/2013 - 15:38
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Waffleconecake
We don't vote because we

We don't vote because we don't like it enough to vote for against it because we are tired of this suggestion.
Scythes are old news and not liked by many.

Dom, 09/22/2013 - 15:47
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Earthboundimmortal
so we have

1 (probably 2) +1's
and 1 (from waffle) -1.
I put the (from waffle) so it didn't look like 1-1 which would make no sense
also sorry for the bump

Dom, 09/22/2013 - 18:15
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Hexzyle

WP:Vote

Dom, 09/22/2013 - 19:13
#29
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Earthboundimmortal
?

?

Lun, 09/23/2013 - 03:30
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Arilys
"Water... gun"

If you insist...

-1

Why?

1) It would make OOO have to work even more since they'd have to make the mechanics for the scythes to actually work decently. And according to some posts by Nick, they're already working on bringing the Arcade back to life with new stuff (even a new T3 boss).

2) Even if the scythes looked nice, they'd end up like almost every other weapon in the game: shadowed by the Brandish and Sealed Sword lines as well as by the Warmaster Rocket Hammer.

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