Spiral Knights - Please hurry with the "more weapons" °-° And some ideas to help you...

Please hurry with the "more weapons" °-° And some ideas to help you...

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Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:42

Tsubasa-No-Me

This might turn into a brain storming suggetion place... but idk yet... so for know... here's my original post...

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I have messed around with all sorts of weapons, and personally? I would like more... i know you're already working on them, but i would just LOVE it if you could put more into it?<--Wrong wording, i'm sure....

Its just that I have found only a few weapons that i actually like... and i would love to find more...

currently the only sword i like is the Troika line...
The iron slug (Maybe the callahan ;) is about the only gun... but i might consider the antigua in the future...
And if i were to like a bomb it would have to be a shard bomb...

TL;DR: PLEAAAASE hurry with the other weapons? Its killing me here!

~Tsu

P.S. Have you really taken out the status on 2nd hit for ALL troikas? please could you put in some sort of compensation?

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:06

Aemicus

There's your problem... You

There's your problem... You are using what might be the worst weapon set in the game. I mean, if it works for you, congrats, but you could be doing a ton more damage with other weapons.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:15

Juances

Yeah, you claim to have messed around with all sort of weapons, yet you like troika and iron slug.
Just WTF.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:21

Blaze-Breaker

Your choice of weaponry just

Your choice of weaponry just screams hipster. Please find a DA or Calibur and apply it to the forehead.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:31

Paweu

Some new bombs please, would

Some new bombs please, would be cool if they were similiar to Radiant Sun Shards and Dark Briar Barrage (damage bomb without knockback)

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 16:14

Tsubasa-No-Me

Well yes... maybe i am a hipster... fact is...

I just don't like the other weapons... for me its not about being the "Best" or doing Tons and Tons of damage... its about just plain having fun... and i know most of of you are playing to be a "BOSS! >:U" but thats just not me...

*I have tried Calibur... its just annoying to me...
*The SS lines charge just... well... doesn't do what i want it to...
*And i'm afraid i hate the med and fast sword's swings... they just don't hit where i want, at the range i want...
*I'm impartial to the brandish charge... but i still don't like the swings...
*I cannot stand the Polaris... that crazy, unpredictable knockback always screws me when i want to use a gun...
*The alchemers are nice... but i'm not after a status gun...
*The AP just isn't as useful as i'd like it to be...
*The callahan is only good against Devilites... everything else that's weak to pierce is torn apart by my Suda...
*Most bombs just bother me in general... I cant seem to get close enough to hit as many as i can... and yes, i lead them onto it... but every single empty spot is a loss to me...
*I'm impartial to the Shards... but i don't really use them that much...

Please note that this is just how i play... Many, MANY others are enjoying how these weapons are used, and to change the whole of the SK arsenal just for me and maybe a few others isn't right at all... what i'm suggesting is to make or hurry making a variety of weapons for me and these few others to enjoy... maybe make some of the majority say, "Oh, this is much more fun then i thought it was!"

Thats what i'm trying to say...

~Tsu

(Also, please do not feel as though i'm dissing your favorite weapons... its just my opinion... kay? ;D)

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 17:26

Blaze-Breaker

Well, I'm sorry if I came

Well, I'm sorry if I came across as offensive. I spent a whole hour in a car with
several cacophonous kids, and that had an effect on my behavior.
That said, It would be a privilege if I could make a few suggestions.
1) I hate Caliburs too. At least in the hands of inexperienced or rude people that spam charges.
Can't really say much.
2) I'll admit the DA charge takes a little bit of getting used to. I've had myself nailed by more than a few lumbars, but at least
from the standpoint of just normal swings, I'm afraid the DA and GF are better, I believe I've heard somewhere that they
even take less time to swing that the Troika lines.
3) I don't know if you've tried a flourish, but they have a range that you wouldn't expect.
4) Perfectly fine.
5) I normally can't stand Polarises being used against non-turrets either.
6) The Prisma and Umbra Drivers are perhaps the most damaging guns of their kinds, they're not just for inflicting statuses.
7) Don't like the AP either. I have a Valiance.
8) Why not get a bomb that helps you get closer to enemies like a Shivermist or Vortex? Both of them are lovely bombs.

If you want, you can meet me in game and allow me to show you how I've figured out how to use my swords and such.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 18:09

Tsubasa-No-Me

Sounds good!

We'll have to do that sometime...

2) it was proven somewhere that with the raw swing speed of the DA/GF and the Suda's extra damage the suda does beat the DA/GF against neutral foes... but only like... 7-10 points of damage... >u<
3) i have, and i still cant stand it :/
6) i just dont like the charge much... and the fact that to squeeze all the damage out of it you have to have foes behind you ect... just not my style... i cant control the extra damage...
8) i dont like freeze... (It just doesnt work well with troikas...) but if i got a Vortex it should probably have CTR max & stuff... but that'll take a while...

And btw... Hipster doesnt have any negative implications IMO... so no offence there! ^-^

Later!
~Tsu

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:51

Fropps

Look.

Look guys.
I like the idea of new and innovative idea's for weapons but there is one problem about this forum.

There are no "new and innovative idea's for weapons" on this forum.

Start thinking guys.

I'll start you off, how about a handgun that has a laser that does small damage but has an instant shot (no time for it to cross the screen.) it could also be modified to have a different type of damage (probably elemental, shadow or normal but pure damage that's for sure, and certainly no piercing damage) or a status (shock, fire and freeze are the most relevant. Curse is too rare and prized to put in, I don't know how stun would work, sleep is out of the question and poison doesn't make sence if you think, -no really think!- about it.) but this is free to change around.

NOW THINK!

Fropps.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 21:05

Mirmulnir

BAZOOKAS! Also Maces, Spears,

BAZOOKAS!

Also Maces, Spears, Halberds...

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 21:14

#10

Tsubasa-No-Me

Hrrrmmm... LETS DO THIS! >:3

for the gun? Poison can be achieved by radiation...

Lets put this gun in a niche and say it will either be a status gun, or a decent damage gun... and Make it be a sniper... super long range... at least two squares longer then the longest range gun we have now... start it at 2* for a normal damage gun... and add a t1 version... lets say I DONT KNOW... a.... LAZER POINTER >:U ... lol, but w/e works...

2* normal damage gun... low damage... and lets say it fire constantly, many little laser "Pellets" that have a trail of light that does not over lap the other trails... leaving a nice smooth effect... the "Ammo" would be the same kind of thing as the other guns... just a lot bigger...

The number of damage should fly above the monster's head after the target is NOT hit for a certain amount of time... or dies...

Super low damage, sniping, possibly status inflicting gun...

3* Big/hot lazer pointer (XD) Elemental... deals minor fire

3* Arc caster... Elemental... Minor shock... Krogmo prize

3* Radiation spitter... Shadow... minor poison... Radiation can even cause MACHINES to not work right! :P

3* Large Lazer pointer... normal damage... more damage to out DPS constantly giving a status to your foe... maybe reduce the range of the others because they give status's

No freeze because lazer=/=Being frozen... and constantly breaking the ice would suck...

Also.. a cluster Bomb of sorts... place it, let it explode... bam! 4 bombs similar to a mecha knights t3 charge....

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But i must also say... i'm fairly sure that they have come up with a few ideas of their own... and are currently working on them... or are waiting to implement them... or W/e...

And thanks Fropps!

~Tsu

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:25

#11

Blaze-Breaker

I can say that a cluster bomb

I can say that a cluster bomb would be nice.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 01:28

#12

Solarbeing

another idea with comments.lol

i think that scythes would be nice. i mean ...who wouldnt want to play the grim reaper? the bombs and guns sound really neat too....escpecially snipers... i love sniper rifles...^_^

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 01:36

#13

Tsubasa-No-Me

A clarification...

We need different ways and far different styles of weapons... that's why most melee weapons don't have *too* much support behind them... i mean... if you want a scythe that swings like a heavy sword... why don't you just re-skin the GF and make it a special auction?...

You need to have a clear idea of how it will be different... either that of just spout off random weapon ideas... XD

~Tsu

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 03:32

#14

Asukalan

Thats wha

Thats what OOO would exactly want. Giving our more weapons. To keep us busy spending our hard earned CE on them and finally buying it for $$$. When we would actually make those new weapons, they will boost other existing already *poof* rush, make that one. And then we will end up with spending dosens of CE, maybe actually buying it for $$ with ton of weapons but wat... where to use them? OOO gave us so much weapons but where is new content?...

Those suggestions are just perfect excuse for OOO to delay any new content updates...
And any other updates that affec overall gameplay experience

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/37190

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 03:39

#15

Tsubasa-No-Me

Well...

I haven't really "Beaten" the game... and for me... having and getting the weapons is half the fun... using them is the other half... and the last half is exploring... (Wait, 3 halfs? @-@)

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 20:31

#16

Hexzyle

Troika is amazing. If I want

Troika is amazing. If I want to swing a sword, i at least want it to do damage. Especially with my latency, and I'm sick to death of Wolvers and Gremlins, so I want a sword to do half decent damage to them and use the knockback to get them the heck away from me.

EDIT: Sorry for the swearing, I'm used of having my filter off ingame :|

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 16:22

#17

Fehzor

Sure.

I too enjoy my sudaruska. I just wish that it did better damage and status to things, being a normal weapon is kind of poo... and I don't know why you favor its charge over DAs.... DA deals waayyyy more damage, and is just... better. And yes, hurrying up and making stuff would be nice, although I'd rather time be taken on things.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 20:35

#18

Hexzyle

Sadaruska can charge-strike

Sadaruska can charge-strike 500 damage to 12 zombies in FSC. Can DA deal 6k collatoral in one charge strike? I don't think so.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 20:48

#19

Imperialstriker

Actually...

Aim the DA's charge properly, and rooms have been known to have been wiped out...

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 22:50

#20

Tsubasa-No-Me

@imperialstriker

well lets see... take the first room of the last floor before Vana... kill all the puppies and release the zombies... there are about 20 of them.... lets say you wait for the right opportunity to unleash the attack...

DA hits 4 zombies with its swing... (You move backwards with the charge...) and each hologram hits two zombies three times...
682*4+(190*3*2)*3=2728+3420=6148

Sudaruska deals 468 to anyone in a 2 square radius and to the side of the lunge... a perfect strike would hit 15 zombies...
468*15=7020

The Sudaruska wins. Hands down. And on the DA's strong monsters... and i inflict stun and send the ones hit all the way back to the other side of the screen, no, into the hallway to the next room... all 15...

Now you might hit one more zombie with the swing, and maybe one or two times with the Holograms... that would put you on top... but just by a bit AND i'm not hitting for an extra amount... I'M using a normal damage sword...

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 23:05

#21

Fehzor

About that...

Sudaruska's charge is harder to aim. Yes, you can maximize the damage by magically getting all of the zombies onto one square, but unless you plan on bringing electron vortex, DA is going to serve you better. And DA can deal damage to all of the same enemies that Suda can if they are all held together, and still do more with just the initial swing. I have both DA and Suda, and have tested this.

You're starting to remind me of this... http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTIh_59jIzpPdF2pybEyOqDXtqfY6iEf...

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 23:14

#22

Tsubasa-No-Me

I'm NOT trolling!

As a matter of fact... i have hit 12 zombies by may self and there was more then enough room for three more... you have to understand that the hitbox moves you forward... hitting foes and THEN the radius... not to mention the sides as you go past... they hit monsters too!

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 23:20

#23

Hexzyle

If you plan out your team and

If you plan out your team and ask people to bring certain stuff, that will win out against the DA all the time. One player drops graviton, other player smashes with Sadaruska. Simple, and extremely effective

DA is more of a solo weapon, and since people seem to hate relying on eachother, it's surprisingly (and annoyingly) common.

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Please hurry with the "more weapons" °-° And some ideas to help you...