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Thu, 09/11/2014 - 11:43
Arelic's picture
Arelic

I made a topic like this some time before but cannot recall what it was called or where it was. So I guess I will ask again.

With...

The following skills applied within the same instance,
* Frenzied Firestorm
* Disintegration Ray
* Virulent Quills
* Valkyrian Aura

The following bonuses,
* Damage Bonus Maximum (source: armor,helmet & shield bonuses)
* Damage Bonus vs Construction Maximum (source: unique variants)
* Sword Damage Bonus Med (source: perk)

The following item applied within the same instance,
* Ranger Signal Flare

And the following weapon,
* Divine Avenger (Heat Level: 10)

What is the greatest amount of damage that can be done in one hit from a charged attack from a Divine Avenger to an enemy from the construction family at Depth 28 or beyond without killing it in that one instance?

I chose the Divine Avenger with reasons.
* Of the three types of weapons, swords are usually the strongest within the appropriate situations.
* According to the Wiki, there is no rapier in game that can cast such a deadly blow in one sword stroke.
* There may not be enough shadow-vulnerable enemies that will wait for the Acheron or Grand Faust to charge.

Thu, 09/11/2014 - 11:48
#1
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Greedygreen
The following bonuses, *

The following bonuses,
* Damage Bonus Maximum (source: armor,helmet & shield bonuses)
* Damage Bonus vs Construction Maximum (source: unique variants)
* Sword Damage Bonus Med (source: perk)

Damage bonus max is enough, cause it stops growing after reaching max. however pet skills and recon flare may help exceed the max.

Thu, 09/11/2014 - 11:56
#2
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Batabii

What he said. Damage bonus is damage bonus. It doesn't matter if it's sword damage bonus, or damage bonus vs [family], if your damage bonus is max, that's it. Which is why using Chaos set (bonus VH) makes any Damage Bonus Ultra wasted.

Thu, 09/11/2014 - 12:04
#3
Arelic's picture
Arelic
/thanks Greedygreen

I do not dabble in Bonuses and UVs often so I was curious of this. That and the fact actually left my mind at the thought of how much damage can be dealt in a single blow.

Thu, 09/11/2014 - 13:21
#4
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Bopp
your thread

I found your thread for you after a few seconds of Google searching. FYI, my query was "arelic maximum damage site:forums.spiralknights.com".

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/92288

That thread includes commentary from forum regulars, links to spreadsheets, etc. --- that is, valuable information.

Thu, 09/11/2014 - 12:39
#5
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Batabii

Also, valkyrian aura does not affect damage, and I doubt virulent quills have Strong poison. You also neglected the Damage Bonus pickup (30 seconds), which actually DOES stack with damage bonus: max

Thu, 09/11/2014 - 14:12
#6
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum

If you use a signal flare, that's a death mark, so it drops defense down to zero. That means there's no point of poison, since that lowers defense and defense can't be negative. What you need is:

-Damage bonus MAX
-recon signal flare
-deadly shadow cloak
-frenzied firestorm
-attack bonus pickup
-CTR max DA (only way to get a charge off before Cloak buff wears off)
-depth 29, vs a grave scarab in Apocrea

That gives you a monster with 0 defense, and an attack with dmg bonus max + cloak buff + firestorm buff + attack bonus buff. That SHOULD be the highest you can get.

Btw, this must be done in a very specific order and with incredibly presice timing, because the bonus from Cloak only lasts 3 seconds, and when you uncloak it cancels all other inactive buffs. that means you have to uncloak, charge, pick up an attack buff, and have someone drop a firestorm and a signal flare all within about 2.5 seconds so the attack has time to go off. But since you can get to 1k dmg by using dmg max + cloak buff on depth 24, on D29 I imagine you could get close to 2k. :o

Thu, 09/11/2014 - 15:33
#7
Arelic's picture
Arelic
@Batabii

While I did not recall what I asked precisely, the aura was to help with the timing of the charge in case that should become an issue.

@Bopp: Thanks. I gathered that it had been by some other name but I could not figure what that may be.

Thu, 09/11/2014 - 17:14
#8
Rhagnarock
my 2 cents

I lurked the forum for the flash sales and thought I'd drop a 2 cents here

Some of you know I run a lot of vana (and by a lot, I mean... more than you can possibly think) and we've had the discussion of: How much is the max dmg you can do to vana with a Blitz?

The maximum we got it to is 509 per bullets but it can be higher than that. It was lacking the Ranger flare and a high psn status (and attack powerup)

Venom Veiller, Disintegration Ray, Frenzied Firestorm and Deadly Shadow Cloack achieved it.

From a pure estimation standpoint, you could go pas 600 dmg with a high psn status and a recon flare and that settup. Maskeraith Deadly Shadow Cloak is a % buff over all your buff so it stacks wayyy higher than normal. Psn low and disintegration = 336 per bullets, 289 normally.... :\

Thu, 09/11/2014 - 17:58
#9
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Turn-Me-On
@Klipik It can be an Acheron,

@Klipik It can be an Acheron, not necessarily a DA. Since defense is 0, dmg type doesnt matter.

Also, shadow lairs might yield better results?

Thu, 09/11/2014 - 22:38
#10
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum

Shadow lairs don't go to D29.

Thu, 09/11/2014 - 23:34
#11
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Sir-Pandabear

From what I've gathered, every depth in a Shadow Lair is D30, but don't quote me on that one.

@Batabii
"and I doubt virulent quills have Strong poison"

Believe it or not, that doesn't keep it from being the fact.

Fri, 09/12/2014 - 05:42
#12
Skepticraven's picture
Skepticraven
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My data supports the D30 for all depths of a shadow lair as well.

Sun, 09/14/2014 - 01:39
#13
Jungle-Sword's picture
Jungle-Sword
WRONG

you guys are forgetting spark of life rev....gives higher dmg bonus than a pickup dmg bonus

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 18:12
#14
Anthrom's picture
Anthrom
O_O

You guys did math

im so proud of society T_T

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