Spiral Knights - The guardian wolver armor set

The guardian wolver armor set

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Mon, 06/04/2012 - 18:40

Thelhawk

Hi I'm new to the forums so please go easy.
My idea is to have an armor set the has all 4 defence types.
I chose the wolver line since each of its lines has a different damage type.Now the idea is an armor the has all of these defences so let me explain everything now.

The defence for each type would be equal to the wolver line counterpart.(example pirce defence equal to skolver,elemental defence equal to vog ect.)Also the armor will have equal status defence for each armor(example freeze defence equal to skolver ect.) You may think 4 damage types and fire,ice and poison defence OP right well this armor also has a max shock,curse and stun weakness per piece.(no more max shock clones!)After that the sword bonuses will be sword damage high per piece(tell me if this is op) and ASI sword med per piece.This concludes the armor defences its self,now for the visuals.

The armor will look like the normal wolver helm and armor except it has a triangle at the middle of the forhead.The triangle wil be made of smaller triangles.(sorta like the triforces from Legend of zelda) The top triangle will be yellow and have a border that is white.(it means sholver and pirce)
The bottom left triangle is green and has a red border(vog and elemental)Finally the bottom right triangle is purple with a black border(snarby and shadow). For the armor the big triangle will go on the center of the coat.(coat is wolver too) Finally this ends the visuals of this armor,now comes the method of obtaining this armor set.

The way OOO will release this armor set is by it being it being a featured auction!(this also makes it so this armor set does not become a clone set)
This will come with the recipe for the helm and armor.(If you dont want it in a pack then it will be sold seperately) The biggining prices will be 1,500,000 crs(please put idea about the starting price)The materials needed to make this armor set are(this is for both the helm and armor divide each mat total to find the amount of mats for 1 piece of the set.4 nightmare manes,4 gremlonium,4 celestial Ore and 4 maiden tears.Also you will need 20 blue,red and dark shards. after that you will need 3 primal ores.Finally the snarby, vog and skolver set.
Thank you for reading this idea,please give any thought about this idea.
Sincerely Thelhawk

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 18:48

Srgs

I can tell you right now this

I can tell you right now this won't be happening. We have enough Wolvers cruisin' around Haven.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 18:52

Nechrome

-1

Way too OP. Every damage defense? Damage increase High? ASI med? If you wore the entire set, you'd end up with max defense against all daamges, damage increase max, ASI very high, and fire/ice/poison defense max. Max weakness against curse, stun, and shock. If you had both pieces, you'd still only have max weakness, since one piece already has max. Curse is a rare status, stun isn't all that damgerous in PVE. The shock weakness seems to be the only really nasty weakness. But the pros completely outweigh the cons.

._.

I think I'll just let the other guys take over. I suck at critism.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 18:53

The-Ark

Where should I start.

Alright, lets see here.

A set with full bars of every defence type will almost always be OP, It would have to have ridiculous negatives, your status weaknesses are a start. A small start.

Yes, any armour that gives a general damage bonus high is OP.

More wolver gear would make bombers and gunners rage more, unless they got one like this too.

As for mixing all wolver gear, 4 of all shadow lair materials, and 3 primals ores to make it... I would that is to expensive, even for this. Plus, it is NEVER a good idea to have an armour better than every other one, unless it has SEVERAL variants.

Though, I will admit, The visuals sound pretty BA.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 19:13

Luguiru

I am not going to give an analysis because it is absurdly overpowered and the attempt to balance is amateur at best.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 19:53

Alpha-Stevo

Cheers to Kentard for his

Cheers to Kentard for his awesome design and makin' somethin' that doesn't look like a lazy texture edit that could fit within the context of a fourth wolver armor!

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg808/scaled.php?server=808&filename=a004...

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 23:00

Psychodestroyer

Still, there's enough hate for the Wolver series. I'd rather not we add to that.

Tue, 06/05/2012 - 05:39

Skold-The-Drac

/sets nitronome, BAB, and readies WRH on first post

Thanks for coming. Now pls graveyard.

Quite simply... this armor is OP all around. Even if it were as rare as a darkfang shield. I would still rage endlessly. Cause the instant one person were to get it... LD would become a joke... let alone PvE, ce market... etc.

Quite simply... No. No. And no.

Tue, 06/05/2012 - 07:01

Aureate

Too OP

- 1

Tue, 06/05/2012 - 10:36

Frocus

Just no

I think Lordofnecromancers said it all.

Tue, 06/05/2012 - 12:18

#10

Autofire

Ahem, this is immensely OP.

Ahem, this is immensely OP. Having ALL the defenses on one piece of equipment would mean you couldn't be hurt by much. When I have full pierce resistance(from azure guardian helm and dragon scale mail), an alpha wolver will deal around 5-7 bars of damage, and a wolver will do about 3-5 bars. Getting this resistance to everything would mean you would never need any other piece of gear again.

What this COULD be is have a 5* with about as much resistance to everything as a 4* would have to a spacial damage type, but then you would have very high weakness to all statuses and have Damage Penalty, Speed Penalty, Charge Penalty Med on all weapons. You could be a hyper tank/healer, but you wouldn't be able to do much else. If it was like this, then it could be a rare recipe which requires a plate helm/suit to make.

Sorry hawk. You can't just suggest things like this. You should think first before posting, wondering "What will the community think about this? Is it overpowered in anyway? If I was a random commenter, what would I say?" I forget if you are still part of BoE, but still, it's nice to see another (ex?) guild member on the forums.

Tue, 06/05/2012 - 12:31

#11

Artistbma

Wow, this Idea really blew my mind.

This will make the other wolver lines seem like junk. It will make EVERYONE want to buy it, thus making even more clones then there already are. This idea is WAY too OP. I laughed when you (Basically) said, "its not overpowered, because ill just give it Max! shock and Max! Freeze. Its all good right?"

Newsflash:

Max! UVs make it even more overpowered.

Tue, 06/05/2012 - 17:50

#12

Thelhawk

Thank you for your thought on the idea

Thank you for telling me that this is OP so i will graveyard it but could you all give me tips on how to balance things like this?And as I said in the the first post i'm a new to the forums so how do you graveyard this?

Tue, 06/05/2012 - 18:01

#13

Luguiru

Hurr

Balancing takes a certain intuition yet substantial logic. What seems balanced to someone may not be to another for different reasons. If you want to see how I do it read some of my notes here. Balance is normally butchered by less experienced users, avoid attempting doing so unless you have decent experience in the majority of the game; namely have completed the regular bosses, run through all tier basic floors, et cetera. Be competent. Know what you are doing. It is very obvious if something is overpowered compared to what we already have, especially if it completely outclasses what something we already have is intended for.

To move the thread edit the original post and change where it is placed.

Tue, 06/05/2012 - 18:02

#14

Alpha-Stevo

First, it has all the perks

First, it has all the perks of the other sets without any huge drawbacks. Kentard's take on it seems a lot more favorable, giving up attack bonuses for a more Charge Attack oriented set.

The appearance of your set isn't all that great, since it's literally just a normal wolver coat with stamped on triangles. Pretty sure it can be a lot better in appearance, also like Kentard's set.

Tue, 06/05/2012 - 18:31

#15

Thelhawk

thank you

ty both i will graveyard it now.

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