Spiral Knights - two handed weapon's

two handed weapon's

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Mon, 08/13/2012 - 08:12

Killerot

i think we should have more weapon's .
im not saying that we dont have a huge vairity of weapons already, its just that i think we should have more.
but why dont we have axes and pikes and spears? why is there only on machiean gun?
i and meny others would really like to see two handed weapon's like a pike or mabye dule daggers...but then theres the problem of shealding,what if its on your back?
i think when your standing with a spear and u press 'x' u should swap the sheild for the spear as fast as u switch weapon. yes it may be a bit slower to swap but two handed weapons could have extra damage, e.g:

two handed weapon
damage v all low

like a variant
also-two handed guns like a rifle witch shoots 2 powerful ,long-ranged bullets and then realods ,and macheian gun then shoots 10 then realoads ,a shot gun that shoots 5 bullets at once at close range then realoads(like that frog monster).
one more thing...we should have maces.

what do u think?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 08:41

Trollingyou

-0.5

Reasons why -1:

Machine guns? We have Autoguns for that
Rifles? We have Magnus lines for that
Close range gun? We have swords for that

Reasons why +0.5:

It has been discussed many times in the past about dual wield/2-handed weapons. taking longer to switch them out for a shield or another weapon does sound like a good idea. Those dudes in LoA have spears, but they share the attack pattern of a flourish sword. Maybe more weapons could be added later, but the balance of weapons we already have should come first.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 08:54

Killerot

guns

well why is there just one machiean gun?
there should be more with diffrent upgrade paths...

rifles, well i ment SNIPER rifles becuase a gun only fires so far ,but how about when u switch to a rife and press (lets say) 'space' ure view is increased and u can shoot further, but u can only do this with two handed guns. thats what makes them different.

shotgun, ok mabye they can have nomal range but fire 5 shots is 5* and 4 if 4* and so on.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 10:24

Juances

A Divine

A Divine Avenger/Faust/flourish/blitz with max damage can kill anything without much trouble.
The excuse "more damage" is unnecesary and overkill, no monster is strong enough to justify it.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 10:32

Killerot

lol really?

what about vana?

(juances has an unhealthy attraction to all my postes 0.o)

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 10:47

Trollingyou

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Autoguns can be upgraded to 3 different 5 star guns. I would not mind more, but right now 2 out of the 3 are pretty much outclassed and almost never used (like 95 percent of the equipment in this game). Maybe we should make these usable, then add more.

Now that you mention they are sniper rifles, I get the idea better. Only issue with this would be the camera angle (you can see farther north than you can south). Fix that, and we may have a winner once we get by the shield issue.

shotgun with regular gun range does sound better. Maybe make the shots spread similar to the autoguns, so the closer the mob is, the easier it is to hit with all 5 shots.

As for the weapons Juances mentioned, those things need nerfing as it is. If they were nerfed then room for extra power would be made. Also, they would be useful on bosses, like Killerot said

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 12:07

Killerot

thanks

thanks for cheaking out my subject-all we need now r the game masters to notice this

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 17:25

Softhead

Game masters don't do that. Devs do silly!

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 23:04

Psychorazer

"Now that you mention they are sniper rifles, I get the idea better. Only issue with this would be the camera angle (you can see farther north than you can south). Fix that, and we may have a winner once we get by the shield issue."

I'll just throw it in there, that when I was more active, I was fairly good at reading and suggesting balance ideas for weapons. I came up with the idea for a Sniper rifle ages ago, and after trial and error to balance it in terms of mechanics, damage, and overall use, I discarded the idea due to impossibility of usefulness. At it's absolute best, it would be both OP and useless at the same time; Snipe people from a distance, get hacked to shreds before you can do anything by the time you realise you're getting hit by something outside of your POV.

Shotgun thread

The rest I don't feel like commenting on, for reasons better not said.

They aren't good reasons.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 23:54

Toxicblade

Derp

Nope.

Also, there is so much bad grammar and spelling in your posts. I will fix one of those problems for free.

*Weapons. The Apostrophe before the s implies that something belongs to someone, for example, Weapon's weapons. The first Weapon would be the character's name, and the second would be implying to an actual weapon, such as a sword, gun, or bomb.

If the character's name ended in an s, for example, Silas, then the Apostrophe would go after the s and not before, so it would become Silas' weapons.

For more information on Apostrophes, go to this webpage of a website on the world wide web, aka the internet.

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 04:01

#10

Killerot

HA HA!

u said :''Game masters don't do that. Devs do silly! ''.(derP)

then why did they make suggestions form then? so they can improve spiral knights...
(fail)

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 04:30

#11

Psychorazer

Oh shut up already, you don't even know what you're talking about.

Devs are DEVELOPERS. they do the programming and whatever.

GMs are just the PR and community Management.

DEVS make the ideas happen. GMs just stop the community from killing each other utterly.

And that's working out so great...[sarcasm]

Really. Shut up. You don't know what you're talking about, you can barely spell, you can't just accept the fact that your ideas are either ages old or totally useless, and you still think that you're not wrong.

Just get out.

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 05:08

#12

Killerot

...

so just cos i cant spell makes me a noob?
+ i thoght he said don't not dev.
+ ive never heard this idear and ive been on this game for 2years
+ why bother insulting people? are u really that sad that all u can do is go online and insulte people for fun? pick out speeling errors? learn loads of abbreviation's that mean nothing? why dont u go out and get some friends? (if thats possible for u)

ok this thread has lost all meaning-all its turned into is a load of critisum and no attal reasons to not make two handed weapons...
screw this im making another...but this time dont sho up unless uve got somthing useful to say...

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 05:30

#13

Aureate

Processing Thoughts of You Always

Making a new thread is just going to get you an even worse response for spamming.
If you have not heard the 'two-handed weapon idea' before, then you must not have browsed forums an awful lot.

I do not see a reason for even more machine guns. We already have 3 machine-gun-like upgrade lines: the Volcanic Pepperbox, the Plague Needle and the Blitz Needle. We have previously discussed dual wielding; I would prefer being able to shield cancel attacks to having the extra damage. We have Magnus which shoots two powerful shots and then reloads, knocking the target down whilst doing so. We also have Drivers which can do a ton of damage. A long-range rifle would be pretty useless due to the lack of ability to change camera angle. A shotgun I would appreciate being implemented into the game.
What the hell is 'frog monster'?

I have no problems with pikes or spears being implemented, but not as two-handed weapons. Being unable to shield cancel or start up a charge quickly would be a fairly major drawback. You haven't put in enough detail for me to be able to properly analyse your concept, so I wouldn't be able to say whether your attack pattern is reasonable or not.

Also, I demand evidence of your Groundbreaker gear.

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 05:36

#14

Killerot

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evidence-
i do have it ,but how to show it is the problem.

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 05:37

#15

Aureate

Processing Thoughts of You Always

Screenshot, upload onto Photobucket, send link.

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 05:42

#16

Killerot

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i just play games. no computer geek O.0-no offence

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 05:50

#17

Aureate

Processing Thoughts of You Always

/facepalm
There is a little button on your keyboard that says 'print screen'.
Use it whilst on SK, in Groundbreaker gear.
Paste it into Photoshop/MS Paint/whatever image editing program you have.
Save file.
Upload onto Photobucket website.

Even my mother knows this, and she's fiftysomething...

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 06:48

#18

Juances

Who cares if it's true, maybe

Who cares if it's true, maybe you were playing the game for 2 years, but obviously, you havent been reading the forums for that long.

And for screemshots, f12 auto-creates the picture without needing to print screen-paint.
It's in options menu (even google has tutorials), no need to be geek, just be able to read and understand.

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 08:15

#19

Luguiru

Hurp

If uploading a screenshot is so complicated set up a rendezvous point where we can meet.

For those who care.

"ive never heard this idear and ive been on this game for 2years"

You must be new h- Oh, right.

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 09:16

#20

Aureate

Processing Thoughts of You Always

...I see a conspicuous absence of Photobucket links.
Methinks someone was BSing. >.>

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 09:27

#21

Asukalan

photobucket sucks, imgur or

photobucket sucks,

imgur or sadpanda is better

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 10:17

#22

Killerot

...

still no idear what your on about...all i know is what print scr. is

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 10:23

#23

Entropize

As a part-time grammar

As a part-time grammar Nazi,Killerot's grammar gave me cancer.

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 22:23

#24

Psychorazer

"but this time dont sho up unless uve got somthing useful to say..."

Same to you. Nothing you've actually said yet was useful to anyone.

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