Spiral Knights - Dual Wielding (Probably been suggested before, but meh)

Dual Wielding (Probably been suggested before, but meh)

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Fri, 10/12/2012 - 18:45

Echo-Twothree

So yeah. This was inspired a bit by this thread: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/60585

Anywho, you know at the core, that knight with 2 final flourishes? I think they're final flourishes. Well, that at the thread above made me come up with an idea. I mean who ever heard of a gunslinger or a bomber with a shield? Gunslingers at least should be able to equip two guns, one in the weapon hand and one in the shield hand. Think of all the epic dual AP moments. Dual dread venom strikers would kick butt. I dunno about dual bombs, though. Maybe the vaporizers could have a 'split bomb' branch that lays down two bombs at once or something, but takes longer to charge.

Maybe for the defensive players, dual shields? Just add punching, dual shields, and you get a weak, but defensive player. I think it's a kinda stupid suggestion, the dual shield, but that's just me. Two handed weapons would go good with this, too. I'd love me some two handed bastard sword action. And you know there is a sword called a bastard sword. Not my fault it has a cuss word in it. But yeah. Let me know what ye think, and post some suggestions of you own.

Yes, I realize this has probably been suggested over nine thousand times, but this is my version.

Ignore the next 3 lines. I had to put this here.
You: What's the energy price, OOO?
OOO: It's... over... NINETHOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!!!!
You: Impossible! It broke the scale!

I had to do it.

Fri, 10/12/2012 - 20:15

Derpules

Your version is like every other version.

You would know this if you'd searched for the previous threads which you jolly well knew existed. You have no excuse.

Oh, and your CE over 9000 joke is also like every other CE over 9000 joke ever made.

Congratulations. You have no original thoughts.

Fri, 10/12/2012 - 21:56

Addisond

Been discussed before, answer is no. SK is simple enough with just one secondary weapon, though weapons that dual wield alongside your shield would be somewhat acceptable.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 02:28

Zeddy

I give you bonus points for making a thread where you suggest dual-wielding while complaining about CE prices at the same time.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 06:55

Epicgoldspartan

disagree

if we dual wield how would we have a shield?

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 07:12

Little-Juances

The game is easy enough ahving one weapon at the time. 2 is overkill. And 2-handed breaks lockdown.
As you said, been overly suggested before.
Meh.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 08:48

Mzculet

It will be hard for the

It will be hard for the developers to fix movements.
Just think about how will it work on bombies and swordies.
Example: We put a divine avenger and flourish as dual weapon, how will that work?

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:32

Echo-Twothree

._.

@Epicgoldspartan

More attack for less defense.

@Zeddy
Wasn't complaining, just had to say it.

@Night-Rove
Uhh. Only certain weapon types can be equipped at the same time, like a heavy weapon and fencing can't be equipped at the same time, but a heavy and heavy can, and a fencing and a fencing can. Meh.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 18:32

Tuhui

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@echo just stop. the only thing that has a chance of working is new dual weapons not making them out of existing ones. you don't have a shield, switch weapons and get your shield back. it just would not work. also guy in core is just trolling other thread.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 21:58

Klipik

@night-rove

Right-click for attacking with right hand, left click for left...

As for combos i assume it would be, you can't interrupt a combo of one weapon with another weapon, would need to sc first.

Of course, this is assuming this has a 1x10^-(ten billion)% chance of happening. which it doesn't.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 03:32

#10

Severage

...

Let's see...

1. Replace equipment in LD? Unbalanced.

2. Animations for dual-wielding? It'd take a long time to create.

3. The knight at the core is wielding two grand flourishes I believe, but I digress. You could make a similar argument about the knight in the Hall of Heroes - and then suggest "Why can't we be huge and wear Trojan's armor with a Guardian Shield? That NPC has it".

4. You suspect its been suggested. Then you realize its been suggested. Then you acknowledge its been suggested, and then you suggest it...yeah...

5. Want to use a 2H? Take a Divine Avenger with a Swiftstrike Buckler. Be happy.

~Sev

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 04:09

#11

Animefrek

-1

jeez man,imagine dual wielding guns,not acceptable,because people will just equip 2 polaris guns,now here comes
while dual wielding polaris guns you are dealing way too much dmg while being way too vurnelable
and dual final flourishes imagine that again...you cant protect your self from enemies that came close to you,shield is having a really important role its allowing you to protect your self and knock off your foes until you position yourself in right place and plan attack

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 07:25

#12

Dukeplatypus

Spellblade-Dual Wield-Rapid Fire!

Yeah, no.
-1

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 04:23

#13

Echo-Twothree

Sink time? Sink time.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 06:18

#14

Aureate

Processing Thoughts of You Always

...no.
Graveyard it, it doesn't address any of the issues that were previously raised (excessive damage, shield cancelling and defensive abilities, for a start) with regards to dual-wielding weapons. Either that or add more content to the thread to address these issues.

There needs to be a damage nerf to compensate for the unholy output you would otherwise get from double toothpicks.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 15:18

#15

Kellnox

What if dual-wielding cut away 1/3 of the weapon's damage? You get extra damage without being TOO overpowered. Plus, some weapons, like the DA and Troika, can't be dual-wielded because they're so big. Or get an attack speed decreased: high or something.

/e wants to run around FSC with two Argent Peacemakers.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 16:46

#16

Quotefanboy

What I don't think peopel understand is.

3 Things about duel wielding.
A.) Acheron can hold a sheathe, so we can clearly hold something in our shield hand, because it's attached to our ARM.
B.) Duel weapons wouldn't work like people think. It wouldn't work as Equipping 2 separate weapons (Argent and A Sentenza) it'd be an actual weapon that's 2 weapons. Think monster hunter, where you equip the weapon "Dual Blades" not 2 separate 1 handed weapons. It'd be its own weapon type.
C.) It wouldn't work any different then A cutter, most likely. That weapon is the closest to duel wielding we're going to get.

So yes it's possible, but the weapon would have to be severely weak while having multiple strikes. It'd be its own weapon style, not 2 separate weapons which we crafted as 1 handed weapons, and equipping them both.

That's all I'm going to say about duel wielding. Again.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 17:01

#17

Canine-Vladmir

wait....

didnt the developers state there where gonna do something to the weapon mechanics that is gonna be mind blowing???
besides Dual Wielding, theres pretty much nothing that can blow ppls minds. except grenades. or a portal gun. actually theres alot of mind blowing stuff but Dual Wielding seems the most logical.
I PITY THE FOOL WHO IS ILLOGICAL!

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 19:38

#18

Tuhui

@Quotefanboy Sheaths are

@Quotefanboy Sheaths are meant to be lightweight and you hold it different than you would a sword. Sheaths hang and you have to keep sword up. I agree dual-wielding would have to be it's own thing to work. I was also thinking that the weapon came with arm guards in place of a shield. Might not work for bulky swords but will for daggers and guns at least.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 01:12

#19

Toxicblade

Derp

This is a bad suggestion. Do research.

I shall be lazy and only focus on one small derpy bit of your idea constructed out of vomit and derp.

No dual shields. This is not a defensive game. No tank characters. We don't have healers to heal the tanks while the tanks are tanking and the dps's are dps...ing. We only have that kind of stuff in mmorpgs. This is not an rpg. Save your tanking for World of Dailycraft.

No healing.

Question. Is echo the new derpy poster of the suggestion forums?

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 21:51

#20

Twohigh

-.-

lol is that all you guys do on here is just criticize and rip into people?

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 22:04

#21

Severage

@twohigh:

Well, either you're new or twohigh to realize, but this has been suggested a billion times before.

The least he could've done is take his own time instead of ours by figuring out it was a bad idea the way he suggested it in the first place.

I.E. Search Bar.

~Sev