Spiral Knights - Spur - a crazy or viable choice ? if so, suggestion for UV ?

Spur - a crazy or viable choice ? if so, suggestion for UV ?

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Sat, 11/03/2012 - 20:32

Leeroyj

the title is for TL:DR purposes.

but for a little elaboration, i been playing the game for a while, so have accumulated 3 basic sets of armors, weapons across the classes of swords, guns and bombs, across elemental, piercing and shadow type damages. im just closing the loop (and what a great movie that was - *rambles on abit about the movie*), and getting all those odd weapons that seem to attract as much love, and hate mails. so far, have gotten, cutter and troika series. spur may be the last odd one.

two questions: (a) i understand it doesnt have a 5*, im fine with that. but as a weapon, is it broken ? is it likely to be buffed in future ? (even without a 5* equivalent) - my main question here is - is it worth getting ?; (b) if it is worth getting, my 2nd question is - what sort of UV would u recommend ? (since i have no idea about its play mechanics, so unsure which is the best uv to consider)

thank you very much to the usual suspects for comments / feedback,
and the unusual suspects for stopping by to give suggestions.

** Knights Assemble !! **

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 20:39

Juances

Some say it's fun but in terms of power is just too weak.

Anyways, in terms of UVs, as any other sword it's either ASI or CTR depedning on your style.

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 21:18

Draycos

Spur has no 5* and deals

Spur has no 5* and deals normal damage, so it deals really low damage in T3. The charge attack is also buggy; if you shield while performing the attack it'll cancel the slash and projectile prematurely.

In the hopes that it will receive a better line or a 5*, I'd say get a Spur with a good UV. I'd assume ASI/CTR/+ to Undead/Constructs would be good; something about it tells me 'elemental damage'. It might end up being a Shadow sword, though, so Jelly/Gremlin would be good too. I can't see it likely being Pierce.

Sun, 11/04/2012 - 00:22

Darkbrady

You may or may not have been

You may or may not have been thinkin' this, but let me just point out:

It's not like RSS (used to be) where it was definitely worth getting despite being 4*, this sword is literally just like a 4*. It's like only using Icebrand instead of Glacius.

Sun, 11/04/2012 - 00:49

Leeroyj

argh

as i hit the send button, my internet came up with an error message. i really hate these moments. but, in summary i said -

@Darkbrady - are u then suggesting that the spur is a decent sword, if it actually had a 5* equivalent ?

@Draycos - are u then saying the charge attack is a liability ?

@Juances - yup. i would get it for fun. lol. i actually got 1 UV (low damage for fiend) just a few minutes ago - so wondering if i should stick to the UV i rolled, or purchase a better UV.

3rd question - is the swing speed of spur as slow as troika ? more like a brandish ? or like a cutter ?

thanks !

Sun, 11/04/2012 - 01:17

Fehzor

If it got a 5*, the 5* would still have to be fundamentally different for it to actually work well. It needs better stats all around for it to work- even with buffs, it is still rather trashy.

By all means, if you've got everything that you need, make one. Its a ton of fun, and a ridiculous challenge to use it to any real effect.

Sun, 11/04/2012 - 01:19

Darkbrady

I'm saying that the RSS was

I'm saying that the RSS was capped at 4* (same as Spur is now) but was popular despite being a 4* because it excelled, whereas Spur is capped at 4* for no discernible reason and has no reason to use it alongside 5* gear and expect the same thing.
However, if they did 5* it, then I see no reason for it to be any weaker than any other 5* equivelant swords.

And the Spur counts as a fast sword. I'm not sure on the combos per minute or anything, but expect speeds akin to Cutters.

Sun, 11/04/2012 - 17:37

Rm-Anami

Winmillion fer da win!

Awnsering to your questions:
A) No, it's not broken. It just doesn't have a 5* version and can be considered as very weak. And I hope it gets buffed in the future... It probably will due to the lack of a 5* upgrade, and it's been AGES since people requested that. It's worth for getting if you got money to spend in A GOOD BUNCH OF FUN AND LAUGHS :3 But I wouldn't recommend as a first or main sword.
B) As in most swords, ASI and CTR are what there can be. ASI in specific since it is a fast, VERY fast sword. Also, charge is fun but deals tiny amounts of damge, so mostly not worth it.
Question in da middle of text) Got money? Roll for ASI. If you get a Winmillion, projectiles will make Devilites run from you and you won't be able to hit ANYTHING. Also, monster-specific damage UV is not worth it unless med, IMO.
C) Spur line is actually the 3rd fastest in game, losing only to Toothpick and Cutter lines...
Title) Spur line: For crazed maniacs looking for some good fun :3

Mon, 11/05/2012 - 05:17

Leeroyj

Thanks for all the comments

Thanks for all the comments :) now that Rm-Anami mentioned it, yes, i recalled ppl commented that the charge attack sets off dodging / shielding / teleporting, making it seem like the spur is working against the knight, rather than for the knight. but i guess that means it works ok for slime.

were there discussions / suggestions on how to make the spur a better sword ? or would such recommended changes make it too powerful ?

Mon, 11/05/2012 - 09:16

Fehzor

There are an unruly number of suggestions regarding how the spur could be better improved. People's ideas are rarely over powered, but in the end it doesn't matter- OOO have proven themselves almost incapable of balancing their items. If a change was to occur, it would most likely leave winmillion just as unusable as it was before- or worse, would negate every other item in the game.

Mon, 11/05/2012 - 23:59

#10

Pinkie-Girl

I use the spur

To make profits At The AH
I recently sold one for 2k lol

Tue, 11/06/2012 - 01:00

#11

Dr-Storm

Winmillion is a super fun sword!

it have 6x combo plus you can dash here and there like crazy :D
zombies and beasts have no chance against me if I use winmillion!
it is also good against devilites XD

as for the UV, I think the CTR is basically useless...unless you're winmillion super pro user ....because the charge attack is weird...@>@

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 23:27

#12

Leeroyj

when i use the spur, it feels

when i use the spur, it feels like a brandish. but i noted ppl are saying its the 3rd fastest sword after the cutter & piercing sword series. so spur doesnt just look different (like the acheron and combuster are essentially the same - just different damage type) - it actually swing / plays differently ?

and i noted ppl are saying dont upgrade to winmillion - cos arc razor is a better choice ? or does it mean i should get winmillion (assuming im already on the spur line - and i wanna try it out), but not use the charge attack ? im pretty happy with troika and cutter - cos i can at least see how it plays differently from other usual line of swords. but with spur, it feels like im using another brandish - that just looks different :(

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 03:22

#13

Raisinfist

Why not to get winmillion.

The Winmillion shoots bullets. About 20% up of all monsters in the game dodge/shield projectiles. Therefore, you can't hit these 20% of monsters with the Winmillion.

Good UV? Fiend, because they need fast swords to counter them (so Cutter/Flourish/Spur are the best swords to use on them). Either that or ASI.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 18:53

#14

Rm-Anami

@Leeroyj(#12)

It has a very different play stile. Not only you attack faster than most swords, but you must have noticed it has a walking pattern that looks sort of a "dash" with each hit. You walk quite a lot every time you attack. You either have to use AT(Auto Target) and be very careful not to walk into floor traps, shield cancel each hit, which is a bit unreliable with the Winmillion's projectiles making the 20% of the monsters Raisinfist mentioned dodge. It actually is more similar to the Cutter line comboing, "Ghost hit" and 10-hit combo aside.

Also, about the Arc Razor... It only differs the Winmillion with the fact it's 3*, not 4* (making it useless on T3), and the Winmillion actually shoots "bullets" with normal attacks. If you don't upgrade it it'll be stuck in your inventory with very few use. Also, charge attack is not very useful anyway... Don't use it. And about your current swords, you got a line up of pure Normal damage swords. Be carefull with that, since you always will deal same damage in different kinds of monster, but will hit less then the specific damage for each. Few people would choose those weapons later on, so it might be a good idea to either diversify more or become a pro hipster that can get your things done with those weapons.

Either ways, don't let people push you into a choice you don't like but is seen as better, and most important of all: Have fun!! =D

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 20:55

#15

Leeroyj

Hey Rm-Anami, thanks for the

Hey Rm-Anami, thanks for the advice :) for a while, i thought they remove the "dash" thing with spur. guess i wasnt paying much attention, and that effect is still around. i guess winmillion will eventually get an upgrade. ppl been screaming for it for too long - and maybe its an opportunity to fix things, after the whole sunshards saga. as for the warning about normal weapons, thanks :) i actually have all the acheron, DA and BTB - im just going around collecting the odd ones like spur, troika and cutter. and yes, im doing it cos i agree its important to have fun ! :)

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 22:08

#16

Luguiru

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Spur - a crazy or viable choice ? if so, suggestion for UV ?