Spiral Knights - the world of sk is dying to lags

the world of sk is dying to lags

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Mon, 12/03/2012 - 23:09

Thunderbog

smooth latency comes first

updates come later

jelly gems and forbidden fruits in between

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YES THREE RINGS, WHERE'S OUR MAJORITY LATENCY SPIKE FIX?! D:<

aasdhsldfhasklhgela we need to stop the lag from spreading, its like a disease of pain

ye hear me right three rings

RIGHT THREE RINGS

*poke his eyeballs off*

LAG! FIX! NEEDED!

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okay guys, do us a favor. press f2 and type out 'i'm lagging so badly' and press submit. do it for all of the people in sk

do that, and we'll get a better & smooth server.

SOON.

SOOOON.

yes, please.

thanks, love ye all.

Mon, 12/03/2012 - 23:23

Bacon-Strip

I thought I was the only one

I thought I was the only one who noticed. Well, besides my entire guild.

+1337

I'm tired of this.

Mon, 12/03/2012 - 23:27

Luguiru

Because this is the future where the world is dark and scarry.

Mon, 12/03/2012 - 23:33

Thunderbog

@Bacon-Strip

i need to hug ye so badly

ily jemps, and angerday is developing my rage as well

we needs dem three rings for awareness of the servers

quick guys, the f2 button!

Mon, 12/03/2012 - 23:34

Batabii

I have minor freezes but

I have minor freezes but never "latency spikes".

My meter is always four bars.

Mon, 12/03/2012 - 23:44

God-Form

lagless knight

I fixed my lag permanently. Here's the trick for laptop users. I take a pretty thick book and prop up the back of my labtop. After I did this I have never lagged. Works for me in the European and American servers. For you desktop users I've got nothing. But this method works for me gl hf :)

Mon, 12/03/2012 - 23:50

Luguiru

Sometimes, slightly more often in parties of three or more, I get this weird lag where I rubber band around. Basically, imagine a more complex motion like strafing to evade a Retrode laser or whatever attack. You think you would just walk as you poosh buttons to go, but instead it flings you around as if your movement speed suddenly spiked to 300% and if you even looked at any attack button while being flung it freezes you in a charge attack when it stops moving.

I also get a freezing lag while moving where my knight would completely freeze in all animations but still be moving in whatever direction I was last going, usually being stuck going in that same direction while stuck in whatever position it froze on then it would stop a few seconds later.

Most of the time I cruise around with four bars, every few minutes it might drop to three for a second, but when lag happens it gets down to one for a few seconds then shoots back up to four. Rarely/Never do I see other people moving around the same ways I do that end up leading to these kinds of lag. Maybe the game thinks I use speed hacks because I can strafe and track movement with my eye balls.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 01:29

Psychodestroyer

"I take a pretty thick book and prop up the back of my labtop."

Typo aside, I really have no idea how that would work. I mean, cooling fans directed at your CPU on the bottom to prevent overheating or something yeah, I get, but seerusly? That works?

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 01:42

God-Form

No joke man i used to have

No joke man i used to have major lag so i could never play lockdown now im lagless. The best solutions are the simple ones :)

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 02:23

Glittertind

"You think you would just walk as you poosh buttons to go, but instead it flings you around as if your movement speed suddenly spiked to 300% and if you even looked at any attack button while being flung it freezes you in a charge attack when it stops moving." -Luguiru

Luguiru. I get the exact. Same. Thing.

I don't know how many times I've ended up dead in a fire at FSC runs because of this now. It is insanely annoying at times. I can go from 100 % healthy and fine, to being a campfire in the few seconds the spike lasts, before the connection returns to normal like nothing had happened. The speed boosts are so unpredictable, I don't even have to press anything to fly around like a skolver clone striker on some serious speed, they can only dream wet dreams of the kind of speed I reach... Too bad it constantly kills me, instead of helping me getting kills.

Weird thing though, this also happens to me when I play TF2, so I guess that implies there is something wrong on my side (though, I have a good and stable net-connection). However, when I play L4D2 or Minecraft with friends, I have no problems whatsoever. Also, there's the fact that lots of people seem to have it.
I wonder if I should get some footage of it...

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 02:29

#10

Paweu

I don't get such lags/latency

I don't get such lags/latency therefore it is something on your end.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 02:56

#11

Timbalero

If yall wanna see how my lag rolls with high end computer ......

here it is!!!! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzynxgqZC18

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 03:03

#12

Hexzyle

@Weedalot

"I don't even have to press anything to fly around like a skolver clone striker on some serious speed,"

It's so funny because it's true. This is how GMs must feel like. XD

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 03:11

#13

Ark-The-Monsta

I don't see how it could be

I don't see how it could be something on my end, since my internet is perfectly fine for playing games, not to mention I have a high-end PC. What I'm finding lately is constant fluctuation in latency, and by that I mean constantly moving between 1 and 3 bars, and yet not being able to do ANYTHING while it does that. I feel like an Enderman ffs.

My latest speedtest.net result to Ashburn, Virginia which is the general location of Amazon's EC2 cloud that SK uses got me 1.16 MB/s download, 0.85 upload, and 104 ms ping.

With those results I should be getting a solid 3-4 bar connection in SK like I always used to. Now it's just impossible to play anymore unless I'm on some crazy fast connection. So please, explain why I lag in SK now when my internet quality hasn't changed and my PC is kept running smoothly, with no lag problems in ANY OTHER online game to boot. Like ffs I play some games on EU servers with my friends on Steam and don't have any issues with latency other than the typical slight delay but at least it's not unplayable like SK is.

Also anyone saying that you don't have lag/ full bars all the time probably live within 100 miles of the servers, so that automatically makes your connection a higher priority than people who don't live as close because that's exactly how Amazon's Cloud works. Way to go OOO, make an online game and put in 2 servers so anyone not living close to them eventually gets screwed over with lag at the release of some new content, in my case guild hall expansion.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 03:31

#14

Paweu

I get 4 bars all the time. I

I get 4 bars all the time. I live in Poland and the servers are located in UK, if that's within 100 miles then I'm also Elvis Presley.

EDIT: Ireland, not UK, my bad.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 03:47

#15

Melisan

I'm 182ish miles away from

I'm 182ish miles away from the ireland servers, and i have recently been having MASSIVE lag issues even when hosting, my bars fluctuate dramatically and I even get dissconnected from the server for no reason (can instantly re-connect without router reboot etc.). I used to be the "one who never lags" ...so F2, have at you!

EDIT: I run a steady 8bmps connection so it's not that

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 05:02

#16

Dendios

At last!

Oh god.. I love Thunderboggy D:

You saw what alot of people didn't...

We should make OOO understand that there is a problem here !

We want a fix for this ! We don't want updates now, just fix this please T_T

@Khomie

I am the same as you, have no latency in any other game but still lag here >.>

Note : I reported a bug and got shot down, maybe if number of complaints increase, OOO will look about it :(

+666

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 05:22

#17

Ark-The-Monsta

Yes thank god there's a bunch

Yes thank god there's a bunch of people here with the same issue. I seriously think we need to keep this thread going, if we can keep it on the front page then maybe a dev will finally see it and maybe think about looking into this issue because it's extremely annoying. I don't want to have to quit the best game I've ever played in terms of gameplay style due to insane lag. I now officially name ourselves the Lagger's Guild! :D

I would make an in-game guild if I wasn't in one already but I'd probably lag out LOL.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 05:30

#18

Dendios

We will make it alive

We will make it alive forever! Umm.... just until they fix it :D

I too can't quit this game, everytime I decide to, I see myself that I can't because I love the gameplay mechanics of SK, too hard to leave :(

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 05:52

#19

Our-Little-Ajo

Same

LD, and specially gvg is way too lag, and i don't mean ping issues, i mean bad performance.

One solution could be spectators limit?
More servers?
A pole dancer in the middle of haven?

I go for the third one.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 08:37

#20

Phyrosite

Goddangit >:U

I've noticed too! I have never lagged so badly, and now that I've come back to the game after quite many updates I will guess, I lag all the time now. But it's not even just my connection, its the game itself that is lagging, my Framerate goes down to like 2 if I'm in T3 and with other people, if I'm alone it goes to like 10 FPS.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 09:51

#21

Quandasim

lag spikes

i have lag spikes too its playable, but anoying i think the lag spikes started before ~1-2 weeks

i'm from europe;)

edit: conection is always 4 bars

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 09:57

#22

Lanieu

I used to lag on my old

I used to lag on my old laptop but still easily tolerable. Got a new laptop - 2x stronger or so - and don't lag except just a bit on EU.

It might be a hardware issue for some folks -sadly.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 11:26

#23

Akvar

I haven't gotten any

I haven't gotten any increased lag in CW but LD is a different story. I almost always have a 3 bar connection but lately in LD I'm getting hit by swords from 5-7 tiles away, running into invisible mist bombs and being hit by gunshots nowhere near me. It seems like the server side latency has increased but I suppose that it could be the game is requiring more prepossessing power or something now.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 11:33

#24

Dendios

@Lanieu No it is not. Is iMac

@Lanieu

No it is not. Is iMac 2.8 GHz i5 , 4g ram , ATI Raedon HD 5800 1gb a hardware issue ? I don't think so, it is server sided, but OOO don't want to say that.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 11:38

#25

Kyajin

If you're at home try to go

If you're at home try to go wired, it will help immensely

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 13:46

#26

Fallconn

FALCON PUNCH!

Hmm, Now that you mention it I've noticed I'm starting to get 2-3 bars in Lockdown instead o' ma usual 4 bars.

[EDIT] I'm wired straight into the internet, And my brother's laptop is wireless and gets 4 bars. I smell too much data on my computer...

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 13:46

#27

Lanieu

@Xxdragneel I don't know

@Xxdragneel

I don't know what to tell you other than a new laptop (which I was getting regardless of SK performance) fixed my lag.

EDIT: I've been on wireless for all of SK.

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 16:22

#28

Irthan

For me, most of the time, the

For me, most of the time, the lag isn't noticeable. When it is, that's when I get disconnected from the server entirely. It happened twice in the same FSC run recently. It's not enough to make me ragequit, but it's getting SK the worst possible score on the "fun survey".

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 16:43

#29

Sir-Alfred

I live in New Zealand, and

I live in New Zealand, and I'm permanently on 1 bar =(( I get bad lag spikes all the time, only time when it stops is when I play at 12 am DX

Please fix this! (Or at least give us an Aussie server *hint* *hint*)

Tue, 12/04/2012 - 19:53

#30

Moonlight-Flower

I play in Europe server i

I play in Europe server i only got 3 bars. In the night i don't have lags but i have delay. In the morning and afternoon I have huge lag spikes, i can't even move in haven. We need a new server in Germany, Spain or France or something in middle Europe.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 02:33

#31

Shamanalah

Monstrous lag...

Seriously, I've been playing for 1 month now and had 0 lag with my EU friends while I'm in my good comfort of Quebec, Canada. But since today (dunno why today, but yes today, 4th december) I get uber lags and cannot do squat anymore...

Seriously what is going on? Tried to go with low graphic on my computer, didn't help at all. Look I'm not an extreme geek but I can build my own pc and can be first level technician in an IT department. But I cannot make this lag go away.

I used to lag in BN you fixed it. Can you fix this too? Or do I have to start living with lag spikes?

Edit: Forgot to mention that I've stopped playing for 6-7 months but overall I've been there for 1 year and couple months and never experienced such lag... except in BN and LD at first

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 03:33

#32

Aureate

Processing Thoughts of You Always

I have an inability to get HUD automatic updates, including for the chat box and health bar. This is kind of a pain if I think I'm running into a room with full health but actually turn out to be running on Hero Mode already. Also if my teammates are trying to yell 'hey aure please for the love of god get back' and I can't actually hear them because of lack of voicechat and textchat.

I'm currently using a 2.5-year-old laptop which shouldn't be performing this badly, but Spiral Knights cuts out during gameplay. Although I admit that IMF is graphics-intensive, this really shouldn't be happening when I'm trying to load Haven.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 04:42

#33

Dendios

Oh nice! They moved it to

Oh nice! They moved it to Technical Problems so no one sees it :/

And the lag is hitting again... brace yourself Knights >:D

Anyone who reads this thread and is experiencing bad lag in the game, please use the report bug option in-game so OOO notices us. You can do that by pressing F2 for Windows and fn+F2 for Mac keyboards.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 08:41

#34

Rangerwillx

My usual 4 bars in Lockdown has become 2-3.
+17.156

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 09:55

#35

Lightplasma

SK used to lag on my desktop.

SK used to lag on my desktop. But then I tried playing on a laptop, and I now have 0 lag. What?
And Then I installed windows 8 on my desktop, and SK wont work anymore.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 09:55

#36

Lightplasma

SK used to lag on my desktop.

SK used to lag on my desktop. But then I tried playing on a laptop, and I now have 0 lag. What?
And Then I installed windows 8 on my desktop, and SK wont work anymore.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 10:54

#37

Helios

Game Master

Greetings,

There are sometimes symptoms observed while playing the game that may be observed as server lag, but are actually created due to local computer setup. There are a few general tasks most players can do to maximize their game performance.

Graphics Driver Update
This is usually an update you can download from your chip manufacturer and run once to update. Traditionally device performance improves with more recent drivers. Sometimes that moment of lag is actually the graphics device not responding in time.: Check Computer Temperature
If you ever propped up your laptop to let the fan breath a bit more and your lag suddenly went away it means that your laptop was probably getting close to overheating. One of the lines of defense a computer has to prevent damage is to go into a reduced performance state in an effort to use less power and produce less heat. This will sharply reduce gameplay performance.: Check Home Network Upload
Make sure no one else on your home network is uploading a lot of data (pictures, cloud sync, torrents, etc.) while you are trying to play Spiral Knights. Once SK no longer has priority upload, game performance will drop drastically. This can knock even the most reliable connection down to one red bar.: Check Server Distance
Spiral Knights has two hosting locations currently; Virginia, USA and Ireland. Usually the connection to the hosing locations is quite reliable for about a 3000mi distance from the player. If you live significantly farther away you will, unfortunately, experience lower connectivity. This is a side effect of the sheer distance.

PS: Check here for Windows 8 help.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 11:13

#38

Sweet-Hope

@Helios
i live on Mexico, and i always have 3 bars connection no matter what hour i played the game. but after Ghost in the machine update i always have an awful lag around 10:30 am to 11:00 Pm after those hours its pretty funny i have always my 3 bars again. so how this can be related to my PC setup?.

my graphics driver are updated to the lastest

i dont play on a laptop, i play always on a desktop computer but isnt old and never have the temperature problem (and also because i always lag a LOT starting on 10:30 am to 11:00 pm after that i have back my 3 bars connection, Funny thing: the previous friday, saturday and sunday didnt have this trouble)

Check Home Network Upload: im the only one who use the net here and i really doubt someone steal my network since... i dont have neighbors around... and also reformatted my computer because i thought would be Virus or Spyware and nope sir... still have the same trouble.

So.. i dont know WHY i have this lag from those hours i cant play anymore on afternoons. :/

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 11:52

#39

Melisan

nothing to do with computer

nothing to do with computer set-up i'm afraid, setting them up is my job. Your list lookes like an automatic tech support reply only missing "have you tried switching it off and on again?" you seem to have a ghost in your machine.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 12:20

#40

Narfle

agreed

I play through the game client (non-steam) on a mac, and about four months ago got a significant system upgrade--hardware and software both. I experienced immediate, major improvements in the game's stability... which have steadily deteriorated through each of the last several updates. And, just to be clear, it hasn't been a gradual decline--things have taken a noticeable step backward immediately after each update to the game. I can't tweak things quite the same way someone who plays on a PC can, but my software is up to date, my system is practically brand new, and there has been no change in my network (speeds, client, settings, etc). Unfortunately, I don't think it's something as simple as local computer setup.

Also, Hi Mel~

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 12:52

#41

Dendios

Please check that again.

On the topic :

I agree with Melisan and Narfle.

OOO, please understand that the problem isn't from our PCs, it is mostly a server problem. I too, my software are up to date and the machine I have isn't an Penitum IV processor..

Actually the lag didn't only increase since the GH update, it has been like this for months, alot of people were lagging not knowing why is that happening, but after the last "Major Update" the lag attacked with his heavy weapons this time. Telerporting is really frustrating especially when it is not only in LD, also Haven and CW.

@Melisan :

I liked that "automatic tech support reply", sadly it is a true story.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 17:15

#42

Shamanalah

Not my computer

I can guarantee it is not my computer. I can and often run Spiral Knights twice on my computer and has little to no lag going on a Vana run with both of them at the same time, loading the same texture twice.

I know it's hard to say it but the problem we experienced yesterday was not coming from us but from you. Steam client could not log for about 20 to 30 minutes. How is that related to me? I could play TF2 just fine... Also your wiki and forum was down, I saw it. We were a couple on Steam who were chatting about it when we couldn't play yesterday

Here's the link
http://steamcommunity.com/app/99900/discussions/0/846938351118703531/

I love your game OOO and was expecting a robotic reply but after seeing it, I'm thinking no answer is better.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 17:57

#43

Bacon-Strip

I got the same stupid,

I got the same stupid, generic answer when I sent in a support ticket for this.
I don't get frame drops. This is hard SERVER lag. Hits not registering, random teleports, especially at peak hours. My computer won't over heat during 8PM when its 60 degrees F inside. I can play SK and get relatively smooth gameplay at like 3AM. That's what I have resorted to.
My computer won't overheat just because there are more people playing Spiral Knights. That is absolutely ridiculous.

I used to never get lag like this, I could enjoy most aspects of the game. Nothing has changed on my end.

They also advised me to use my steam client instead of my SK client, which made the problem worse. Thanks. Also, the lag happens on my main, my main on the steam client, and my alt on its native Spiral Knights client.

It seems that OOO is just too proud to ever admit a mistake. I've seen this before (see shard bombs/spectator mode problems/elimination of clockworks). I don't want generic, "you need to drivers and restart your computer" for problems that have been around for over 3 weeks, for hundreds of my guildmates.

I'm pretty sure this is not the players fault. I don't think OOO wants to admit it. I think it's about time they stopped handing out widely known, generic advice, and start testing and fixing their own game, not our computers.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 19:33

#44

Sweet-Hope

i understand your problem

i understand your problem Bacon :/ i have THE SAME Problem. and they still insist its our trouble with our internet or ISP service -.- and really idk what to think because in other games i really have a smooth gameplay while spiral knight i have to play around 11 PM To have a smooth gameplay in spiral kngihts.

i really dont know what to do :/ i feel like my elevator pass it just a waste because i cant play afternoon and only in the morning or night which isnt pretty nice to play because almost in my server... its empty and well.. just can play few hours, not like before have this trouble.

im to the point that im going to reformat for the third time my computer... just to have a little hope to play spiral knights like before.. even if we send bug report they will insist is our ISP service because spiral knights server its alright... could be this truth? meh this just dissapointing...

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 19:31

#45

Doctorspacebar

I am getting the lag too.

I did not get the lag three days ago.

Fix it.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 19:47

#46

Bacon-Strip

@Sweet-Hope

Exactly. Everything else runs perfectly fine. Only spiral knights is laggy.

They refuse to accept this. They just continue to ignore it.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:02

#47

Doctorspacebar

I know, right?

Fun fact: On the same day (today), I played TF2 and Spiral Knights. I had no problems with TF2 (other than the fact that I suck as Sniper). I lagged immensely in SK after half a LD match; I tried again late and lagged immensely in Crimson Hammer after what was barely sufficient to clear the very first room. Count yourself lucky I have a Pass.

And please fix the lag.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:11

#48

Bacon-Strip

LOA was a particular joy

LOA was a particular joy today. I really enjoy being hit by bombie explosions on the other side of my screen.

I will not rest until this lag is fixed. Or until I kill myself.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 20:38

#49

Xairathan

Arf

I just got a new problem. If I log onto SK through steam, the Steam client still thinks I'm on SK and won't restart it. I literally have to log off steam, and back on, to restart SK. This doesn't happen with any other game.

P.S. I was in an LD game two nights ago where capping points literally took a minute if you were one-man capping (the point was literally inching towards the edge/center), moving was like slogging through changing liquid, and attacking was just spamming Mouse2 and hoping you connected.

Wed, 12/05/2012 - 21:37

#50

Hexzyle

@Ragers and @OOO haters

Women, women, calm down. It's the most recent update. I can understand the rage if there was like, 2 or 3 updates that have gone past without anything being done. The tech support response was just to eliminate players from the thread who actually DO have a technical issue with their own computer. The Devs are working on finding the problem. Be patient and wait for the next update for further information. (Moar guildhall furniture, doors, and boss statues, WOO!)

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