Spiral Knights - Suggestions that will improve game.

Suggestions that will improve game.

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Sun, 02/10/2013 - 21:55

Hyiaku

Yo, nick if ur out there listen up.

I got ideas people have been talking about forever.

First one, 1vs1 game for colesium.

Second one, fighting with fists or something.

Third, being able to take out weapons in haven.

Fourth, being able to swim or be under water or something like that.

Fifth, being able to use striker guardian and recon on missions or in training hall.

Sixth, curse status pad in training hall since not everyone has a Faust of some sort.

Well that's all I can think about right now.

Hit me back, give me something. Open for others too.

Later.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 22:08

Zaffy-Laffy

1. No
2. No
3. No.
4. Has been suggested.
5. No.
6. No.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 22:19

Luguiru

When you say "improve", does that mean our version of it or yours? Because I can guarantee there are at least five threads with the exact same title which have been about the your wants with complete disregard to what the thousands of other people want or what would be a healthy addition to the game.

"First one, 1vs1 game for colesium."

How original. And creative. You know what? This deserves some applause. You hear that? That was the sound of my feet clapping for your inability to follow the rules which specifically say to search before repeating the exact same topic.

"fighting with fists or something."

Again with the originality. You could make a completely new game with all these not at all generic and unimaginative ideas. You can even call it something ridiculous like Flounder Farts. I would play that.

So the dicta- I mean, completely legal and personal freedom supporting Spiral Order sets up all kinds of metal sticks, fancy rainbow slingshots, and explosive things for knights to use. Without weapons we have no means of attack. You know what? Derp all those stupid weapons, just walk into the Clockworks with your bear hands because you have to kill fast and boolits are too slow.

"being able to swim or be under water or something like that."

Yes, because there are annoying water areas where treasure boxes and enemies hide in and laugh behind our backs. In the fountain. Why else do I keep trying to get people to throw me in there? I want in on those secret underwater floors.

"being able to use striker guardian and recon on missions or in training hall."

Those are specifically for Lockdown. I should go on a rant about calling the Clockworks 'missions' but you are probably part of the huge group of people who have no idea what the Arcade is other than that place where you poop minerals to get free money.

"curse status pad in training hall since not everyone has a Faust of some sort."

Yes, because curse status pads exist in the Clockworks just like those secret underwater levels mentioned earlier.

Okay next l-
That was it?
A-
Are you sure?
Nothing original or game improving you want to say?

No, alright. I can see what you wanted to do here. You raise expectations with a title like "this game needs this or I will quit forever" so it gets attention. Then people walk in, mentally compliment the furniture, but when they jump on the couch it collapses because it was actually a cardboard box with some pillows thrown on. No couch? Alright, I can deal with that. Sit on a chair or somethi- The chairs are made of twigs from the tree outside. Well, gosh darn diddly doodle poodle pudding. I can just sit on the fl- The carpet was a crayon drawing on concrete. This seems like a good time to get a dr- The kitchen is a public water fountain with gum and bird poop all over it. What the liquids. This is the worst sleepover I have ever been invited to.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 23:58

Hyiaku

@luguiru

First of all, I've been here before they even came out with missions or canna so u can shut ur mouth.

Second, it's just a suggestion who said it had to be original? Is there a rule book saying tho shall post original suggestions? If u find it plz tell me where u did.

Third, wat the heck is wrong with curse pads? There isn't many ways u can get cursed in the game u know. The only ways is with a Faust, phantoms, or the zombies u see in SL vanna or in those kat missions. Not many ways to get cursed buddy. Most people wen they get cursed get confused and don't kno what to do. At least with these it provides a challenge and some information of how to deal with it.

4th, no weapons provide a huge challenge, which I see many knights waiting for, so really not to bad of an idea.

Come back when u see it in a way players would like it or if u find something that is actually pointless about it.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 00:03

Gzilla

@Hyiaku

Don't even try to fight with Lug. HE. WILL. KILL. YOU. With fish. It's pretty embarrassing, not to mention downright frightening.
If I can actually throw my opinion out, the game actually has tips that it displays, one of them is curse. And besides curse is really only relevant in t3 where sl's are, where black kat's are, and is around the time you get a faust.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 00:13

Hyiaku

@gzilla

I'm saying some knights use steam so they don't have tips for curse on the website or stuff like that.

Plus I've been cursed in t1 graveyards rarely but it doesn't hurt to kno wat it's like in the future.

I've seen noobs see someone die from gran Faust in training hall and they all like and I quote: omg so cool, how u do that, can u curse me etc etc.

I bet if the game came out with these pads there would be a little more activity in training halls instead of like 3-5 people in one.

Again ur argument is invalid, plz come back and stop hating on stuff that could be a possibility.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 00:16

Zaffy-Laffy

" I've been here before they even came out with missions or canna so u can shut ur mouth." Please, me too, so you shut yours too.

" it's just a suggestion who said it had to be original? Is there a rule book saying tho shall post original suggestions? If u find it plz tell me where u did." Not only is your suggestion unoriginal, it lacks in-depth explanation... Are you seriously just pulling OOO and telling them to figure out how stuff works? Come on, even some people have suggested 1v1 more in-depth

1v1 here's another
Fist fighting
Weapons in Haven
Water
Choosing your class for training hall Does not appear in missions for reasons obvious.

Curse pads? Why bother, just don't get curse and everything will be fine. If you really want to test how much damage a curse deals, okay, fine, take a faust, be with it. The point being, there's no need to test anything, just don't get cursed.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 00:40

Hyiaku

Face palming so much it's not even funny

Omg who gives a crap if its luguiru I'm arguing with?

@zaffy-laffy want explanation? Here u go..

1vs1: player gets to challenge friend to fight with rules challenger makes. Challenge shows up like invites and trade things do. Player can except or deny. Players can also join friends matches unless match is locked by match starter of course. Match starter gets to choose random arena (without all the monsters) to fight with friend.

Weapons in haven: u see npcs walking around with weapons in hand why can't knights? U can honestly show
ur friends and others wat ur weapons are without allowing full inspect.

Water: who doesn't want to fight underwater? U have to come p to breath and everything but come on. It would look pretty awesome plus the fountain could be more fun and not just a waisted space.

Fist fighting: I seriously just explained this. It gives u more of a challenge in the arcade runs and in pvp. Plus it gives u a basic attack that shows how strong your character is.

LD gear in training hall and missions: maybe people wanna get used to the lock down stuff but don't wanna keep losing money. Let them get used to the striker speed or recon cloak and so on. Same could work for BN have a little place to practice with the bombs.

Curse pads: (I'm pretty sure I said this more than once) maybe noobs wanna experience curse effects but don't have a Faust. Maybe they can't do RJP or SL or graveyards to find a way to get cursed. Seriously u guys just seem like ur looking for something to hate on.

Argument is invalid, again.... Wen u can come up with something hard for me to answer plz I'd like to here it.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 01:04

Zaffy-Laffy

My arguments are invalid? Now tell me which of both of us is more reliable? You with your slightly degraded English and your sudden appearance on this forums, or me, who has been here longer than you, replied in more posts, and have clearly stated my points with various information required.

I respect your rights for posting here, but I must refuse to your original post due to the lack of information. Here is my general statement on the suggestions you made

1v1 : Oh okay, duel between who is better, now tell me why would they want to waste their time doing that?

Weapons in Haven So you want to show off... very valid... Weapons are nothing to show off for, accessories and armor are the eyecatchers... Hey let me show off my Glacius, yeah nobody cares...

Water: I did not disagree, only to say it has been suggested before, more in-depth than your current one...

Fist Fighting: Oh, you explained it? Let me try to find it. 404 not found.

LD classes : Try it out without losing money? Okay, now tell me how you can play LD if you don't wanna put in 200cr...

Curse pads : I am not trying to hate on curse pads, more or less state how redundant it is as a feature in the game. Are you so desperate to get cursed? Is there really a need? How about getting killed first before getting cursed. The point is curse has a very very very VERY low chance to achieve, unless that of SL and of black kats, but players would be very experienced by then. There is no need to experience curse, because by then the noobies will smack the hell out of phantoms.

Towards your inoriginality : Use the Search option (located in the upper right corner of the forums) to check for existing posts/threads on your topic. found in http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/1418

It is more of a matter of common sense. You would rather post your opinion (please make it valid and useful) on an pre-existing thread, than to make a suggestion here that is much worse than the previous one. If you don't have anything useful to post about, then I suggest you do not post.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 01:07

Breaker-Xd

You're in the WROOOONG neighborhood

Hyiaku.
Whatr yu doing
Hyiaku.
Stahp!

The people you've been so rude to are without a doubt your seniors (and betters), at least on the forums. Now first without even commenting on your suggestions, I'd like to comment on your behavior.

Your writing is
1) crude, as it is basically an amalgamation of grammatical errors, misspelled words, and .....'s held together by the belief that you're right
2) inconsiderate. If I barged in your house and DEMANDED you to add a curse pad by your front door, would you be happy? No, you wouldn't, even if you love curse pads. So don't do the same to OOO, Nick, or the SK community.
3) rude. Don't be telling people to shut their mouths. At least POLITELY ask them to stop. (Or just respond to Lug with humor, it might work...)

You're picking a fight with
1) Luguiri. He's a phenomenal writer, with a quirky attitude. He's a great player, his suggestions have been constructive and helpful (in some cases?) You DO NOT fight Lug. It hurts. A lot.
2) Zaffy-Laffy. He's a great forum poster. He follows and enforces forum rules, and pretty much always provides awesome suggestions. He had good grammar, writing style, etc etc (things you lack), and had deep understanding of the way the game works, and thus suggests things appropriately.
3) Gzilla, Persef, and me. We're just regular forumers, who are sitting down and getting popcorn, waiting for your imminent demise, should you fight Lug. It'll be fun. With fish. A lot of fish.

NOW onto content.

I wouldn't have too many qualms with the content, were it phrased better. In order now:
1)1v1 dueling has been suggested since the beginning of time. Though you say this is a list of things that people have been talking about forever, you forgot to mention that these were also things that have been SHOT DOWN for forever.
2) Fist fighting is the same deal as 1v1 dueling; old stuff. We're just beating a dead horse by shooting it down.
3) I actually don't have a problem with taking out weapons in Haven, but it might be kind of useless and add clutter. It's fine the way it is.
4) Water LITERALLY WAS JUST SUGGESTED, in much more detail than here. It's like 3 posts down on the front page, just scroll a bit?
5) This is an old suggestion. Lockdown abilities in a Training hall might make sense, and a custom mission'd be cool, but these are all kind of trivial and not necessary. +0.5 i guess.
6) ... ... Curse pads? ... Just get a Faust

-the T2 LD Fiend

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 01:13

#10

Oatmonster

Lick Number 58425

And here I was thinking the Code Blue era was going to be the low point of the forums.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 01:24

#11

Luguiru

" I've been here before they even came out with missions"

And I was here before this game was on Steam. Are we having a pissing contest now? Longest stream wins?

"it's just a suggestion who said it had to be original"

The people who program it. The thousands of people who experience it. The people who care about the game being interesting since every time they release reskins a lot of players go overboard to other games.

"Is there a rule book saying tho shall post original suggestions"

Since you asked so creatively I should point out in the rules it says "DO Use the Search option (located in the upper right corner of the forums) to check for existing posts/threads on your topic". You should be intelligent enough to figure out what comes next.

"wat the heck is wrong with curse pads?"

Because they never exist anywh-

"There isn't many ways u can get cursed in the game u know"

I think I missed something between those two sentences.

"Most people wen they get cursed get confused and don't kno what to do"

Take one swing with your sword. Oh, that hurts me. Spam attacks mindlessly. Oh, I killed myself. Not that I was paying attention to anything which means I deserved to be killed because spamming mindlessly is a crime in gaming. Not that I would expect you to appreciate that.

"no weapons provide a huge challenge"

Have you tried bombs? How about Troikas, Cutters, or Catalyzers?

By the way, are you talking about the underwater levels here? Weapons and unique floor traits are different. Not that I would expect you to be able to figure that out.

"Come back when u see it in a way players would like it or if u find something that is actually pointless about it."

Are we looking at the same thread? All I see here is the same things I see almost every day. You probably think I would be exaggerating but threads ask for these kinds of things every single day with equal lack of intelligent thought. Am I supposed to see something new among the same things I see on a daily basis?

You act as if any of these are clever or original. Oh boy, water themed levels again. I have only seen that over a dozen times. One on one duels. I wish I could count all the times this thread has appeared. Unfortunately nothing is higher than derpbillion.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 01:32

#12

Persef

Subject not found.

First one, 1vs1 game for colesium.
He wants to farm basically, all he need is another account with a Peachy-fresh brand-new knight in it, and BAM, he kills it until it dies.

Second one, fighting with fists or something.
WOW! Fists are definitely better than wedges, bullets and pyromancy!

Third, being able to take out weapons in haven.
You just want to hit someone when you get mad, don't you?

Fourth, being able to swim or be under water or something like that.
Suggested, but your's is very shallow.

Fifth, being able to use striker guardian and recon on missions or in training hall.
._. Did you really just suggest this? Recon is god-mode, Guardian is opposite of god-mode, and Striker will become cowards.

Sixth, curse status pad in training hall since not everyone has a Faust of some sort.
What will this do? OOH! I'm cursed! *spams attacks

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 05:47

#13

Dragneel-Wiki

It is really amusing

I can't stop from laughing and scowling at the same time.... I really... really... really dislike people like : ...

Anyways. Hyiaku, you are probably new to the forums, and know nearly nothing about it ? So if you would please, listen to the people who reply to you, and don't try to be smart@ss on specific people, it is really annoying.

"Yo, nick if ur out there listen up."

How about a fist-bump too ? Is Nick your Brah and you are his Gang Leader to tell him to listen up ? At least be more friendly like : Hello Mr Nick. If you are there, would you please listen to my idea?That would have been effin better than the way you are talking like now.

Back to your super duper suggestion.

"1vs1: player gets to challenge friend to fight with rules challenger makes. Challenge shows up like invites and trade things do. Player can except or deny. Players can also join friends matches unless match is locked by match starter of course. Match starter gets to choose random arena (without all the monsters) to fight with friend."

Behold the power of details! Simply flawed in many ways. Are the players going to get Krogmos ? And if they do, wouldn't that be abuse-able ? Hmm... What about classes ? Wouldn't that game end in a wink if I just spam the Holy Polar Gun ? Matches will be even shorter than the loading time itself. I do like the idea of 1v1, but absolutely not yours.

"Weapons in haven: u see npcs walking around with weapons in hand why can't knights? U can honestly show
ur friends and others wat ur weapons are without allowing full inspect."

What is the point from showing your weapons ? So dey cn sea dat im vry aoseum. Pfft... such a pathetic goal. Just allow full inspect and that's it. Plus it would case major FPS problems in Haven.

"Water: who doesn't want to fight underwater? U have to come p to breath and everything but come on. It would look pretty awesome plus the fountain could be more fun and not just a waisted space."

Hey guys! We wear mechanical things and swim, want me to show tha- Arghghahaha... The knight is dead.I don't want to pop out your lolypoop balloon, but I remember someone making an idea of Underwater Mission, which was more than 3 pages. And you are just throwing spices here and there, waiting for a Chicken Curry to come out.

"Fist fighting: I seriously just explained this. It gives u more of a challenge in the arcade runs and in pvp. Plus it gives u a basic attack that shows how strong your character is."

We don't have Damage Ability or numbers, bakamono. Plus, I can't see how would you punch Vanaduke with the tiny-piny hands of our lovely knights. Would you please state how can we improve our Knights Punching Force ? This is not World of Warcraft son, it is Spiral Knights. See, no hands.

"LD gear in training hall and missions: maybe people wanna get used to the lock down stuff but don't wanna keep losing money. Let them get used to the striker speed or recon cloak and so on. Same could work for BN have a little place to practice with the bombs."

I never new that 200 cr is impossible to get, is it ? Now using these classes would be ridiculously OP in Clockworks. Why ? Because I can do any mission without dying, because I am using my OP shield all the time. Yay! Very much fun, I admit.
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Next time, please improve your GrammEr, then come post your incomprehensible ideas.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 05:54

#14

Hyiaku

Yaaaaawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn *strechtes*

Ok so this is all I'm seeing on this thread. If found the grammar police, I have luguiru's followers, and people who are acting like they want to be the SK team. Again nobody is seeing it in the way of noobs or the t2s or the ways of pros.

Who cares how I type and crap like that I see people who type just like me pretty much yet r u criticizing them? Nooo, so back off on that subject will u? I'm not perfect u kno and I'm pretty sure ur not either.

Wat u guys are missing:

1v1: I didn't say tier one can challenge teir three. Of course there is gonna be balance by teir. It's common sense. Again the challenger and the opponent make the rules pretty much since its 1v1. Since I don't have much time to keep talking with u guys I'll. tell u everything later.

I'd like for u to also kno I spend more of my forum time in the treasure vaults the arsenal, and guild recruiting. I just kinda browse people's suggestions. I only read them if I'm interested or they show something useful/show good reasoning.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 06:01

#15

Hyiaku

@dragennl-wiki

Ok i just saw ur forum after I posted so I can't really ask or,point out certain things to u. Soooo.... If u really have questions mail them to me or set up an appointment with me sometime.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 06:08

#16

Zaffy-Laffy

"Who cares how I type and crap like that I see people who type just like me pretty much yet r u criticizing them? Nooo, so back off on that subject will u? I'm not perfect u kno and I'm pretty sure ur not either." doesn't mean you can't put in more effort to improve your grammar.

Oh what, Luiguiru's followers? Sorry, I'm a Psycho follower.

and AS STATED IN MY PREVIOUS POST, What is the point of a 1v1? You are missing the point. You don't put in effort to brainstorm. You had time earlier but not now, and you haven't explain 1v1 in-depth. Is there some sort of reward system, or is it gonna be some sort of gambling system.

And to say we don't look in the way of the noobs... terrible misunderstanding there.

Oh so you want to show off weapons in haven, how does that relate to noobs who have noobish weapons? Contradiction.

Sure, blame us for not putting ourselves in the noobs' shoes, how about you look into people who have high latency then.

And if you have really read through peoples' suggestions, you would have known how much effort some people put into their suggestions, and you would have done the same, but have you?

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 06:05

#17

Dragneel-Wiki

We are The Department of Grammar Police in Los Cradles. Raise your hands, and don't try to resist. Any resistance will be replied with force. Tries to move. Freeze!

You didn't even answer my 1v1 questions. Seems you are hopeless like many others too.

We aren't Luguiru's Followers, we are his fanclub. Problem ?

We don't want to be SK team. We are players, and will stay players.

If you don't have time to post a fully reasonable,logical reply, then don't. I don't really like Cliffhangers you know.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 06:07

#18

Dragneel-Wiki

I am sad

Why can't forumers spell my name correctly. :(

I am going to cry. (/ T _ T \)

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 06:13

#19

Quakeman

@123456

@dargnael get a easier to spell name

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 06:47

#20

Fleet-Miss-Gun

@Dragneel-Wiki There I spell

@Dragneel-Wiki There I spell your name.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 07:32

#21

Thunder-The-Bright

I suggest hyiaku to stop now

I suggest hyiaku to stop now before someone rages (guys, could it be a troll?). you have to learn that:
1 Luguiru is the god of the suggestion forums. since he does great suggestions since ever, contradict him is not a good idea.
2 comments should not make you engrage in any way. take them as suggestions.
3 do not think you are right. you are left most of the times. the others you are wrong.
let's return in topic:
1vs1 pvp: I spam polaris. you die. you respawn. I spam polaris. you die. not so fun, huh? it works even with other weapons! also, if you have rewards, you can get an alt and take them.
fist fighting: please answer to: how do you get attack power? but first, how do you attack? in what pattern? what damage do you deal? it's only in pvp or even in clockworks?
weapons in heaven: 15 guys spamming polaris. 15 guys spamming BAB. 15 guys spamming- your computer crashes. it could happen, so it will happen.
water: how? when? where? WHY? PLEASE GOD TELL ME WHY?????
LD classes in traning hall: a good thing would be a PvP training hall. but not in normal traning hall.
LD classes in clockworks:
striker: asi high, dam+ high. you kill everyone in 5 secs. no, ty.
recon: you become invisible. death mark on a monster. kill monster in 3 secs. no, ty.
guardian: health regen. too easy. no, ty.
curse pad: by the time you encounter curse, you shoud already have discovered the wiki. if not, you are a n00b and you deserve it.
now tell me I'm not polite.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 08:02

#22

Breaker-Xd

I kaer dat u tipe lyk3 kr@p

First off, most of the SK forum community cares about spelling and grammar. It's not that we're being grammar Nazi's, you're just terrible at writing.
Next item of interest, we aren't quite Lug's followers. I mean, I follow Lug occasionally, even stalk him home sometimes, but I don't consider myself his follower. Nah, I'm with Zaffy-Laffy; I'm a Psychodestroyer fan, and boy if he came here, you'd be more ground beef than a cow without legs.
As it is, most of forums DOES hawk and grouch at people "who tip3 lyke dis", so no, we won't back off of the subject.

All I've seen is what YOU are missing:
1) the willingness to put in the effort to make a good post.
2) the humbleness to take suggestions from your peers
3) the attention span to actually listen to your posters.

I mean come on, if you're going to post something and ignore all the replies, you might as well Facebook it or something.

What we DID fill in:

1v1: We get that it's sorted by "teir", gosh. But are Krogmas given out? That question hasn't been answered yet... and if they are, it's an extremely exploitable system.

... wait was that all you thought we were missing?
I'm quite sure you're missing a lot more than we are right now. If you plan to tell us all later, or in PMs, might as well not post it on forums.

And oh boy, I feel so sorry for the guys on Treasure Vault, Arsenal, and Guild Recruiting if you're posting there.
>BRB, cauterizing my eyes to remove the stain of bad writing

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 08:09

#23

Shamanalah

my 2 cents

I'm no fan of Luguiru although I like the way he barge into stupid suggestion and make them worth reading.

Your ideas are bad. I'm a french forumer who's on english forum because only Spiral Apres Vente (a guild) are on the french forum trying to un-ban someone who got legitimately ban (/sigh)

Wat u guys are missing:

Still lack 90% of the info's about it... Weapon in haven = useless. Underwater theme (no thx but someone suggested water status which has more depth than your whole post, on a single suggestion. Which I liked) Gimme Strike Class and I will plow through everything, or recon then pop up behind trojan/slags to only recon again, rinse/repeat. Guardian? Oh well all those shields I got are useless now? thx a lot

See how little thought can go a long way?

I'm no psycho fan, no luguiru fan, no fan from quakeman either. I'm just a lone french stranger who started playing in July 2011... So no to all your suggestions... (and they are not "suggestion that will improve the game")

Edit: After some thought... I would love to have striker class just to have a dodging competition against deivlish since they would go from "hardest normal mobs" to "most easiest mobs ever" (along all the mobs ever created)

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 08:40

#24

Aureate

Wow, it's like a summation of every suggestion that got ignored.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 08:41

#25

Gzilla

I would say what thunder said in his last post. Also I find it sort of rude how you say your argument is invalid, for one you're doing wrong, two for the most part a lot of people on the forums were here way before you, me included. If you would just stop and politely tell us to leave you alone we might, but since you're being straight up rude or trolling We're just going to troll back.

Also correct grammar is really important on the forums, just want to put that out there so you don't come off as an 11-year old kid. For your ideas, one we don't have set damage so fists might not work, two under water levels might be hard to code, three 1v1 lockdown will just be major farming, four curse is one of those rarer status conditions, just like sleep, and yet people just deal with it, it's not going to be like oh i have a weird mark over my weapon now, and a countdown timer! Even if they do use their cursed weapon, they have to eventually learn that cursed weapons damage you. Common sense, and learning the hard way isn't so bad.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 14:57

#26

Hyiaku

Well then....

Thanks for making me feel stupid and bad. I guess since u guys think they r bad. I guess I'll just stop posting suggestions on this forum.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 15:54

#27

Skyguarder

Proceeding the explosion...

First, let's see reviewing why we don't need these ideas.

"First one, 1vs1 game for colesium."

I don't see details. How will it be acted? How will it be played? There are many more details that you need to include. Right now, you have 0.000000001 amount of details here. People suggested it, but no, it won't get through only because of the lack of details.

"Second one, fighting with fists or something."

This isn't Kung Fu Panda. If it was, then us knights, will end up into "Karate knights"

"Third, being able to take out weapons in haven."

Then what about inspection? It would become useless, knights will have lag and the worst part, strangers in Haven will think "Oh noes, these knights are trying to sneakly kill us!"

"Fourth, being able to swim or be under water or something like that."

Where are the details? I don't understand why we need this.

"Fifth, being able to use striker guardian and recon on missions or in training hall."

No.

Sixth, curse status pad in training hall since not everyone has a Faust of some sort.

You clearly don't understand how they work. First, the curse pads don't exist. Second, we only use pads that we find in the clockworks. You don't find a stun one, so nope. Please use your logic.

You don't know how the game works, huh? Please review the game and learn it

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 16:08

#28

Hyiaku

@benightz

Read on will ya

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 16:53

#29

Rexerr

I agree

So you guys are making fun of Hyiaku. Hmmm.....

K so let me summarize what happened here:

First: How some ppl said that Hyiaku's suggestions were not original.
A- Did you guys read what he said?
'I got some ideas some people have been talking about forever.'
Original? Well, no but mentioned they were not.

Second: 1V1 game coliseum.
Ok. What is wrong with that? I think it smart. Have a coliseum were people can test each other.
Agreed.

Third: Being able to take out weapons in Haven.
So maybe you ppl have never thought of that, but i know ive always want to do that.
Who doesnt want to show his new weapon and or cool armour?
I totally agree.

Fourth: Being able to fight underwater.
L+O+L= LOL Why bother? Even you guys said you'd like it.
Check.

Fifth: Being able to practice Reckon ect in training hall.
Hmmmmm...... Whats soooo wrong about training for lockdown? I know im not so good at LD.
So im with him on that one.

Sixth: Could the training hall have Curse Pad?
XD You guys really need something to hate, huh?
A curse pad..... Is there something i missed on that one cause id be totally fine with that.
That leaves......

Seventh: Fighting with fists or something.
Well....
Testing Strengths
Well.....
My Personal Answer: I would personally like to have a test of strength. Who wouldn't?

So i hope i answered your questions.
@Hyiaku You got some great ideas. Keep posting!

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 16:59

#30

Little-Juances

So both him and you admit those ideas have been going since forever. Go read threads about them so you'll know why they are bad.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 17:01

#31

Luguiru

Sockpuppeting is not cool.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 17:41

#32

Hyiaku

@rexerr

Thank u! Somebody who sees my point. Looks like I found someone who actually gets wat I'm saying.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 18:13

#33

Zaffy-Laffy

Now i have to fight against this new guy...
REXERR! HAVE YOU EVEN READ!?

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/74548#comment-644286
Start reading from here.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 18:42

#34

Magnicth

Oh? Suggestions that will

Oh? Suggestions that will improve the game? Maybe I'll check i-OH MY VOG WHAT IS THIS MESS?

Unoriginality? Check.

No explanations or in depth descriptions for any of these copypasta ideas? Check.

Horrible attempt of bashing anybody and everybody who is pointing out the obvious failure of these copypasta ideas? Check.

Hyiaku & Rexerr: -3

Lug, and just about everybody else: 593.4

~Magnicth

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 19:12

#35

Skyguarder

Proceeding the explosion...

"Second: 1V1 game coliseum.
Ok. What is wrong with that? I think it smart. Have a coliseum were people can test each other.
Agreed.
Third: Being able to take out weapons in Haven.
So maybe you ppl have never thought of that, but i know ive always want to do that.
Who doesnt want to show his new weapon and or cool armour?
I totally agree.
Fourth: Being able to fight underwater.
L+O+L= LOL Why bother? Even you guys said you'd like it.
Check.
Fifth: Being able to practice Reckon ect in training hall.
Hmmmmm...... Whats soooo wrong about training for lockdown? I know im not so good at LD.
So im with him on that one.
Sixth: Could the training hall have Curse Pad?
XD You guys really need something to hate, huh?
A curse pad..... Is there something i missed on that one cause id be totally fine with that.
That leaves......
Seventh: Fighting with fists or something.
Well....
Testing Strengths
Well.....
My Personal Answer: I would personally like to have a test of strength. Who wouldn't?"

You're an idiot... there are no valid details in here. It does not explain anything. What is it? It's up to OOO and Sega to continue the idea and develop themselves? Nope. Details are important. we aren't your mind readers.

Something tells me you must go to Grade 1 again, and get introduced to "grammar + details"

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 19:49

#36

Hexzyle

@Benightz

First, let's see reviewing why we don't need these ideas.

This thread was already flamed and hammered 20 hours before you added your 2 cents (which was pretty much identical to Zaffy & Lug's cents)

I know the thread wasn't that great, but not every single regular forumer has to come down here and roll their hate onto one person. Sheesh.

You're an idiot... there are no valid details in here

His post was miserably lacking in detail, and we all could see that. There was no point in pointing out his points; there's no talking sense into people like this, and insulting them will just make them grumpy and will add one more person to the list of people who hate the forums.

~SickOfSeeing10PostersInARowSayingTheExactSameThingToTheOP

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 20:19

#37

Hyiaku

Omg ur skipping posts

If u look at post #8 I have a few details and am working on more so just chill ok? Unoriginality never said any of this was going to be original. I said things people have been talking about not I've come up with some ideas. Seriously u read parts of it u don't read the whole thing.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 20:29

#38

Zaffy-Laffy

You are giving some suggestions, however, your suggestions have not convinced us that they are good suggestions. Your lack of details is the flaw, and I suggest to you that you put in more effort and give more details. This is a suggestion, but I do not need to explain it because it is common sense. Your suggestions do not ring common sense, therefore the need for details. You can't expect us to understand what you want to say because you didn't say it.

Think again if you think we are skipping posts, because we have not, only you have. Unless you have something good to say, don't say anything else.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 20:44

#39

Hexzyle

@Hyiaku

For future suggestions I highly recommend one suggestion per thread. Keeps clutter to a minimum, and allows you to focus on perfecting one idea before moving on to the next, instead of having a lot of cluttered cross-railroad discussion.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 22:07

#40

Hyiaku

@zaffy

Maybe they don't seem good to u because u look at it negatively and don't see what it can actually help and change.

It's not because I'm leaving out details(I'm still working on some) but its because u only see it as something that will ruin the game or in your case, change what you are used too. U don't like change so what you do is look at things that can help and make them seem bad since ur afraid of going out of ur comfort zone.

Next time think of what the upside of it is before u critize other people's ideas and make them feel bad.

Enough said.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 22:15

#41

Gzilla

Can we just graveyard this?

This thread is a train wreck already, Hyi if you want to suggest more ideas or just elaborate more, I think you should just start from scratch. I think we all (myself included) messed up a bit on this, wether from lack of detail to jumping the gun, I think we should just end this flaming, and start from scratch? Let's all be reasonable, even though i'm probably the least reasonable person on this forum, second only to lug.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 22:18

#42

Hyiaku

@gzilla

As much as I think u r right I still wanna kno what OTHER people think about my ideas. Once I'm sure everyone has reached a verdict I'll move it if its all negative votes. If not, I'll contact gems and see what they think.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 22:21

#43

Zaffy-Laffy

I want change, but I find the changes you want to implement too unbalanced. Again, you have failed to convince me, not to mention failed to counter-argue because you are only personally attacking me. I have already gave my strong arguments above, with relevant evidence to show that your post was unoriginal, not to mention lacking details. Would you be so kind as to read http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/74548#comment-644333

1v1 The only thing I see is that it is redundant because you have not suggested if there is a reward system for it, which I have stated.
Fist Fighting You did not give any details. What type of fist fighting? You suggest just raw strength, but we don't even have a stat system, so what's the point? You might as well bring a proto sword then.
Weapons in Haven You have not convinced me how showing weapons in Haven is a good thing. Unless you say we can accessorize our weapons, I don't see a big deal about showing weapons.
Water I agree to this, but that was in another thread, which had explained more in-depth than you have here.
Curse pads You have failed to convince me how curse pads are useful, because I am considering it quite petty, not to mention a waste of time animating.
And LD training You should train with real opponents, not alone, again pettiness.

Stop attacking me, start upgrading your suggestions or otherwise ditch it, because by attacking me, you are only making a fool of yourself.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 01:37

#44

Thunder-The-Bright

erm

as I said, my post has been ignored. main causes:
tons of rude comments.
hyaku still rages.
possible troll?
now, people, calm down, relax. hyiaku, stop an-swearing and start thinking for the question they asked you. others, stop posting rudely. just because he has been rude, this is not a way to make him less rude. if you want an answer, just ask. politely, or, if you really want, normally. now, auto citing.

1 Luguiru is the god of the suggestion forums. since he does great suggestions since ever, contradict him is not a good idea.
2 comments should not make you engrage in any way. take them as suggestions.
3 do not think you are right. you are left most of the times. the others you are wrong.
let's return in topic:
1vs1 pvp: I spam polaris. you die. you respawn. I spam polaris. you die. not so fun, huh? it works even with other weapons! also, if you have rewards, you can get an alt and take them.
fist fighting: please answer to: how do you get attack power? but first, how do you attack? in what pattern? what damage do you deal? it's only in pvp or even in clockworks?
weapons in heaven: 15 guys spamming polaris. 15 guys spamming BAB. 15 guys spamming- your computer crashes. it could happen, so it will happen.
water: how? when? where? WHY? PLEASE GOD TELL ME WHY?????
LD classes in traning hall: a good thing would be a PvP training hall. but not in normal traning hall.
LD classes in clockworks:
striker: asi high, dam+ high. you kill everyone in 5 secs. no, ty.
recon: you become invisible. death mark on a monster. kill monster in 3 secs. no, ty.
guardian: health regen. too easy. no, ty.
curse pad: by the time you encounter curse, you shoud already have discovered the wiki. if not, you are a n00b and you deserve it.
now tell me I'm not polite.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 05:35

#45

Rexerr

Lug

Oh and btw ppl,

I have been around the forums for a long time so does that mean im some sort of forum god?
\laughs like a forum god

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 05:40

#46

Hyiaku

@thunder

Ur posts are polite but again if they would read my posts fully I even said working on details and I also said people have been talking about thing for a while. Never said anything was original. So instead of dissing me let me try to explain wen I have the chance.

Thunder this isn't completely towards u but everyone. U want details, let me keep working on them.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 05:44

#47

Hyiaku

@rexerr

Looks like he is the only one that reads the WHOLE post

Thanks man, really helps my cause wen I have someone to back me up

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 06:05

#48

Zaffy-Laffy

Rex, please, being on the forums for a long time doesn't make you a forum god or whatsoever, it is the popularity you receive through time, good posts and the control of language that determines your reputation and reliability. Lui has definitely proven his worth, but not yours.

Back on topic :
'Why would anyone want to put a fire pad in there?? When you catch fire, just run around!! ha ha ha only noobs fail enough to get caught by fire. That does not follow anything. A fire pad exists in a training hall because it exists in the clockworks. A curse pad should not exist because it just does not exist in the clockworks. Not to mention the curse you gain at Tier 1 is not equal to that in Tier 3.

Yeah, well about the originallity again, WHO SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE ORIGINAL??!!!! Yeah, when did I say curse pads were unoriginal...

Bout the water, again, He said: THESE ARE SOME IDEAS SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT OF BEFORE IF YOU HAVE READ (REALLY READ) you would have noticed I criticized on his originality way before he claim "these are some ideas people thought of before", and also criticized on his lack of details, which I have shown another thread that has already passed that.

Oh and btw, i write like a grade one? well who cares??!! You guys write like grade 8s. WHO CARES??!! this is a forum where people post IDEAS...... I did not say that, much or less said that one should improve their control of language. It doesn't matter whatever platform you write in, it is still important that your claims and speeches are valid and clear to the receiving audience, that is us. A man's language determines his worth. Speak like "OMG NOOBZ" in an interview and you get rejected. Speak like a gentleman, we think of you as one.

You have still failed to convince me why and how curse pads can work, and my rejection might as well save the Spiral Knights artists from taking 1 week to animate curse pads instead of sprites and whatsoever huge content. Attack me again, and I will see you in your grave (at the graveyard section)

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 06:08

#49

Hyiaku

@rexerr

Even tho I explained I need to put it in words they can understand what I'm saying in (not calling u stupid or anything just trying to help u see what I'm talking about.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 06:11

#50

Rexerr

@zaffy-laffy

Curse pads.
Bad.
Sucky.

You know, i dont find that these words fit well together.

Curse pads.
Noobs.

Oh, but cant you see those 2 words fit a little better together?

And about the fire pads.....
I dont get what was unclear,
I meant if they were NOT there and then someone suggested them.

Again, *facepalms*