Add a Negative Shock resist to Skolver/Wolver Armor and Helm Pieces!
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 06:36
RE: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/76820
You know.. Because it's one of the most used armor pieces in the game in lockdown. :U
I'm sure with the addition of a negative shock resist, there will be a lot of people reconsidering their options on gear to use for lockdown. Additionally, I'm sure many people would become very angry, but get over it in time.
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 06:50
#2
+1
Many of the offensive armors are in need of a nerf. Why does Wolver armor come with a natural freeze resist while no other weapon-based offensive armor does?
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 06:51
#3
I sense self esteem. too much of it.
we need a major armor rebalance, and this would be the least. with this, you have a 100% chance to get everybody angry, because of polaris. add a negative resistance is fine, but not shock. fire, maybe. or, poison.
also, the game it's not only LD. think about PvE too. a negative resistance is actually what we need to balance a bit, so ok.
no, it's not the best idea. many people have had many other better ideas.
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 07:02
#4
my 2 cents
we need a major armor rebalance, and this would be the least.
And shields...
I would love to see a bomber shield appear someday
Gunner have Swiftstrike and swordies have BTS but bombers has nothing...
Oh yeah ASI is so useful to my bombs...
But yeah... Wolver are too OP compared to anything else...
Edit: I do not want Wolver to be nerfed alone, I'd prefer a balance of those unused lines than solely a nerf on the wolvers. Instead of tuning down the wolver line to the other, why not boost up the other to be on par with the wolver line?
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 07:07
#5
The skolver penalty would be so you couldn't just get shock immunity through UVs.
I wouldn't be against it, but similar penalties would need to get applied to all class armors. I also think simply lowering the freeze resistance to high rather than max would mean that skolvers would need a UV or trinket simply not to get frozen and that'd be nice.
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 07:09
#6
+1 to shamanlama
I agree with shamanlama on his edit post of boosting everything to wolver line instead. It keeps the wolver line stats there and it makes many things even. Oh btw shamanlama, bombers have plate shields or defender lines I believe.
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 07:11
#7
erm
I think shields are part of my armor, because, you know, they protect me. so I intended shields too.
for the all armor boost, first we need to boost the enemies. well, way before.
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 07:12
#8
@Thunder-The-Bright
Your first and second paragraph contradict eachother.
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 07:49
#9
yes, I know.
and no they don't. I said shock was going to give problems, and that I would switch it with another status. then I said that any status weakness is fine to nerf in PvE.
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 08:17
#10
@Thunder-The-Bright
Woah, I got supreme ninja'd... :O
we need a major armor rebalance, and this would be the least. with this, you have a 100% chance to get everybody angry, because of polaris. add a negative resistance is fine, but not shock. fire, maybe. or, poison.
also, the game it's not only LD. think about PvE too. a negative resistance is actually what we need to balance a bit, so ok.
no, it's not the best idea. many people have had many other better ideas.
What it seems like to me that you're saying:
"Wolver shouldn't have a Shock weakness for the sole reason that everyone uses Polaris' shock in LD"
Then you said:
"The game is not all about LD"
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 08:22
#11
No.
-1
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 08:28
#12
yah... because of a minigame
yah... because of a minigame where everyone is hardheaded and cocky, we must nerf a set of armor... might as well nerf the world because i saw 3-7 posts sence last month calling for nerfs just because of LD
i dont even play LD, but i'm agenst this. how about we have nerfs for reasons other then a minigame, hmm?
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 08:48
#13
I do agree all offensive armors should have less defenses or some weakness to make the other sets a viable option too.
But this about skolver and shock is just a LD rant...
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 09:06
#14
"You know.. Because it's one
"You know.. Because it's one of the most used armor pieces in the game in lockdown. :U
I'm sure with the addition of a negative shock resist, there will be a lot of people reconsidering their options on gear to use for lockdown. Additionally, I'm sure many people would become very angry, but get over it in time.
Best idea, 2013."
Why should weaken a popular equipment...? Because popular? It is difficult to make correct bonus. Many people use shock resistance, make a Stagger Storm.
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 09:32
#15
+1 to add weak resist to Wolver Items
Wolver Gear is, unarguably, the best gear to use in all occasions. Im pretty sure hes not adding the weakness because its popular, but because its a invincible cannon.
I can go play FSC in Skolver and still come out victorious. I have no elemental defense yet i can still destroy zombies instantly.
I can go play RJP with my Vog Cub and spam the FoV all over jellies. Jellies do piercing and while i have no pierce resist, i can still kick some a$$
I can even play every level in Snarbolax and still be unharmed.
As a player who owns ALL the wolver sets; Skolver, Vog Cub, and Snarbolax, I can tell you that it is quite easy to play levels with its Awesome Sword Bonus and no weakness to it. All three have normal defense so there all powerful in every single level.
Now, whats the worst status for a swordie? Its Shock. Being shock-spammed stops swordies from slashing or charging. Its the a good status to even out the wolver sets. You still get the Very High Bonuses yet the ability for them get useless if your careless.
I kinda lol'ed at the -1 comments cuz, you know, its hilarious.
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 10:06
#16
eyes trying to see the end to another end
just remember:
Snarbolax set have the same offensive bonuses, and have little more status resistance
the major difference is the specialized resistance (piercing from skolver, that help against flourish users, shadow from snarby, helping against faust or shadow driver)
and if you are complaining about the Skolver/vog/snarby set, what's about chaos set? you can maximize charge and damage being striker without any more UVs
if you think the Chaos set is "balanced", then the Mad bomber is what?
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 10:22
#17
Chaos/Mad
They have Neg, so it's a risk/reward.
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 10:45
#18
Skolver should have neg fire and the Vog Cub should have neg freeze. Maybe that can work? Except Skolver can have more neg fire resist. This can encourage Vog Cubs to come out from their shadows.
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 11:53
#19
@Skyguarder
Would also encourage Flamberge use in LockDown
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 12:34
#20
Any penalties applied to class armours need to be applied to all of them, not just the most popular one.
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 12:48
#21
What skygurder said, have the
What skygurder said, have the neg fire and freeze the same amount as the positive freeze and fire. That way Skolvers: AHHH C'MON FIRE HELP M-aww I'm dead. and Vogs: Come on, come on, turn around, TURN AROUN- *gets hit by gran faust* aww I'm dead. Also add neg stun to snarbolax, because of beast bells. Also the lines leading upshould get neg stun, because that seems fitting.
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 13:14
#22
Skyguarder, why? That's just horribly though-out criticism to me.
Give a reason to say no.
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 14:07
#23
I agree to this idea if we
I agree to this idea if we can actually have:
Skolver: Freeze resist, neg fire
Vog Cub: Fire resist, neg freeze
And so on. But, not just those wolver armor.
Brute jelly gear: Remove sleep resist completely and add something else instead like poison resist. So far, it has stun and sleep. Not sure, but currently there is no sleep weapons or enemies at all.
Azure guardian gear: I think that the gear should be fully normal to the max.
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 13:59
#24
That's better!
:)
Sun, 03/24/2013 - 19:17
#25
I think that the Snarbolax gear should have poison resist and negative stun. (Neg stun was from Dmatter. His idea)
Dude skolver gets shocked anyway, so really all your doing is pointless. People use skolver in lockdown because its their choice out of their many load outs or its their only set. I've seen skolvers in lockdown and there at either a lot or just a few. It depends on the match your in. I say graveyard and be done. <------- last line is best solution to this post in 2013.