Shout-out to Eury, Poseidon and Klipik

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Coelydragon's picture
Coelydragon

Quick question for the three of you then I'll graveyard this.

Klipik would you help make a Table of Contents thread in GD, Arsenal, and here? So that new people can find previous threads on dual wielding and battle sprite ideas without too much difficulty. Like the other thread said, lore has a lot of threads but not enough for a sub-forum; it deserves its own chapter though. Other people can help of course but I know you as the one who knows the forums really well. Collaboratrs will be appreciated as there is bound to be more people who can contribute greatly.

Eurydice and Poseidon if we did this would you guys sticky it? Otherwise we'd be forever bumping it for its resourcefulness and use. That other thread linking to the wiki guide on the forums can be linked in the Table of Contents to save sticky space if needed.

Let's get this place cleaned up (especially with PvP threads out of the way now)!

Hearthstone's picture
Hearthstone

To two certain individuals, eh?

+1 to this. Also link to Autofire's guide.

Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

Yeah, it's been done quite a few times. The problem is keeping it up the top, GMs don't usually sticky things like that, and if the person who created the thread disappears for some reason, then there's no-one to keep track of the thread and keep updating it.

Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

It'd be better if it was a wiki page and you just post the link here, like the other guide. Anyone can edit it that way.

Coelydragon's picture
Coelydragon
Good point.

Okay if you'd like to assist in the collaboration in any way just post here that you do. It's possible that we can assign different "chapters" to different people if we get enough people. Chapters would be like "new sword ideas" or "lore" or "questions on FSC" (then there would be subheadings for dual wielding, etc. That way the OP would link to the various chapter posts below which would be made by their respective authors. Viable? (Eury? You there? Mind answering the OP?)

@Skye-lightning Yeah that wats the link to the wiki guide on the forums I was trying to talk about. I forgot who made it, sorry.

Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum
why me :o

I'll help I guess... I mean, I do have this as a start.

Coelydragon's picture
Coelydragon
Because you freaking link spam every time you post lol.

Remember the "Look! Actual good discussion" thread? And seriously, every time you post a bunch of links I only recognize 1 or 2. You just know your way around the forums better than I've seen anyone else. Maybe Luiguru for Suggestions but he said he's oftn busy with college (or was it doctorspacebar that said that?).

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Luguiru

A couple months or so ago I decided to take a back seat to cool off from the geysers of stupidity people have been squirting at each other. I have also noticed Nick and friends have been keeping their backs to me likely due to my less than friendly nature towards everyone including myself. I could continue this paragraph with a rant about how moderators never deal with people even more horrible than I am but reporting them is more efficient than trying to show these people the errors of their ways so they learn from their mistakes as I have countless times past.

Anyway, I bet you flops would like if I gave some feedback for once.

  • General Discussion:
    • Haven News: Did you know Eury and Aphrodite were seen arguing? Neither did I, but tell your friends!
    • Burning the Fourth Wall: The library to discuss history, lore, and the recipe Biscotti constantly messes up.
  • New Recruits:
    • Questions: Having trouble slashing enemies instead of allies? Ask our veterans how to tell the difference here.
    • Guides: This is where the newbies shut up and veterans blather on until lunch time.
  • The Arsenal:
    • Blast Wounds and Lab Coats: Have you ever wondered exactly how many zombies Big Angry can obliterate and how far the pieces would scatter? Put these goggles on and get behind the blast shield.
    • Equipment Balance: Is this spoon balanced compared to this machine gun if both are equal star ratings? Why or why not? Who thought a spoon was a good idea as a weapon?
  • Treasure Vault:
    • Contests/Events: Compete in heated arguments over who has the thickest armor and biggest sword, who can make the strangest noises, or whatever other nonsense; your imagination is the limit, but try not to do anything too illegal.
    • Fanfictions: Have you ever felt a book in you? We have medics on standby for such an occasion, and after the operation we may as well put the obstruction on display.
    • Fan art: Stick figures to animations to building a knight in your own home to take over your neighborhood, we want to see it.
    • Roleplaying: All the pretty princesses and mentally unorthodox abominations to society gather here to have pleasant tea parties.
  • Guild Recruitment:
    • Recruiting: Join our cult- I mean, gang- I mean, guild! We have pretty uniforms and special rights in Haven no other guild knows about.
    • Joining: Get your new recruits here, fresh out of their escape pods! Guaranteed to be fully functional for life- well, maybe a few solar cycles at least.
  • The Coliseum:
    • Lockdown
    • Blast Network
  • The Bazaar:
    • Buying
      • Armor, Shields, Trinkets
      • Weapons
      • Upgrades (weapon, trinket, etc.)
      • Cosmetic (costumes, accessories)
      • Other (Steam trading, variety of items to sell)
    • Selling
      • Armor, Shields, Trinkets
      • Weapons
      • Upgrades (weapon, trinket, etc.)
      • Cosmetic (costumes, accessories)
      • Other (Steam trading, variety of items to sell)
  • Gremlin Chatter:
    • Bored Games: Sometimes beheading lizards gets tiring, so sit with your brethren and roll some dice while moving a strange plastic object around a game board. Remember not to be a sore loser by slicing the board in half when you lose.
    • Off the Records: The cameras and microphones may be off, but remember that Big Ozlo is always watching; so make funny faces.
  • Wiki Editors:
    • Day Plan: Are new pages needed? Should we change this? What can you do to help contribute?
    • Oil Change: Updating outdated content.
    • Coolant Dispenser: Join your coworkers with a cold canister of cooling substance after hours of work for the wiki burned you out.
  • Suggestions:
    • New Content: Do you want a new weapon, boss, or whatever to be in the game? Tell us about it.
      • New Equipment:
      • New Enemies, Puzzles, Maps, Statuses, Missions, etc. (Arcade)
      • New Minigames
      • Other (new NPCs, new areas of Haven, etc.)
    • Balance: Why does everyone choose Wolver over Chroma for armor? Why is Cautery so bad compared to Nightblade? Help fix these glitches with your ideas on making blades, bullets, and ballistics part of a balanced breakfast.
      • Balancing Equipment
      • Balancing Gameplay (Arcade enemies, maps, statuses, puzzles, etc.)
      • Balancing Minigames
        • Blast Network
        • Lockdown
      • Other
Coelydragon's picture
Coelydragon
Thank you

You know, that isn't too far off from the outline I wrote up earlier today. I like the way you put some of those things (although "flops" was a bit harsh). One major change would be to add a History chapter to Suggestions so people don't repeat themselves, each other and their bad ideas. I intend to focus on mainly GD, Arsenal, and Suggestions as these seem the most popular/junked-up. There wil need to be more specifics such as separate Arsenal sections for swords, bombs, shields, etc. Other than that, thanks. Would you like to help sort out a section?

Ghret's picture
Ghret

You are organising things? How excellent! That is one of my favourite things.

And so I have some suggestions to throw at the back of your heads from atop the Guild Hall.

1) Adding a "Finished Contest" section to "Contest/Events", "Fanfictions" and "Roleplaying". So that people can admire at all the marvellous things people have done. Or to watch in mute horror at the remains of a once hopeful collection of words that have now been laid low into the twitching, dessicated mess it is now, and wonder how - How? - their own words can escape this seemingly unalterable destiny.

Oh, only one? My mind must be leaking. Better patch it up with that wood glue. Don't worry. I'll be back to throw categories at you once I can think properly.

Ghret's picture
Ghret
Here comes the bricks! Well, brick, singular.

Depending on how the discussion in Knight Club goes, we might need a separate section in Knight Club for Contests.

Coelydragon's picture
Coelydragon
Outline (Subject to change)

General Discussion

  1. Lore
  2. Feedback
    • Equipment
    • Monsters
    • Other
  3. Questions
    • Serious
    • Less Serious
  4. Essays and Data

Arsenal

  1. Swords
  2. Guns
  3. Bombs
  4. Armor
  5. Shields
  6. Less-Serious Questions
  7. Play-Style Guides
    • Offensive
    • Defensive
    • Balanced
    • Less Serious

Suggestions

  1. Equipment
    • Swords
    • Guns
    • Bombs
    • Armor
    • Shields
    • Concepts
  2. Guild Hall/Haven
  3. PvP
    • Lockdown
    • Blast Network
  4. Maps and Level Designs
  5. Monsters
  6. History
    • Dual Wielding
    • Pets
    • Transportation
    • Super Modes
Coelydragon's picture
Coelydragon

@Ghret
This wasn't in the original plan, but if you'd like, draw up an outline and a draft of a Table of Contents for Treasure Vault and/or Coliseum. Just drop it here and we'll give it a good look before sending you off to recruit whoever you want to assist you.

@Hexzyle
(I know, late reply) In order to avoid that, I'd like to have people focus on various aspects (ex. I could mainly do the Swords part of the Arsenal and the Guild Hall/Haven part of Suggestions and keep these as my territory to cover so to speak) so that if one person is gone, the whole thread doesn't die. Also, the sticky would both make it easy to find and non-bumpable.

Luguiru's picture
Luguiru

Organizing a stickied history thread for suggestions would have to be managed by someone who understands the massive variety of already posted ideas and have links to threads with those ideas. A thread acting as a vault of previously explored ideas would be great for keeping things fresh and plucking out the fodder, but that second part would require an active moderator to shove their eyeballs in our nostrils every day.

Coelydragon's picture
Coelydragon
@Luiguru

True. I should add a few sub-headings under History, mainly dual-wielding, pets, vehicles, and "super" modes I believe. Mind if I put you for the leader of the Suggestions Table of Contents? Or would you prefer specifically suggestions for monsters and/or equipment?

Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum

What kind of things are we looking to organize here? Namely, are we going to comb through all the forums and put every single duplicate, pseudo-English, non-detailed thread into categories, or just the more "professional" ones? Because if it's the first, it would take forever to read through and look through, and if it's the second then that opens up all sorts of opportunities for bias and whatever else.

Ghret's picture
Ghret
Well, here's my order.

Treasure Vault

  • Completed: Fanfictions, Roleplays and Contests. This is where they come to rest after they have run their course.
  • Events/Contests: Bashing heads and bumping swords, find out who does what the best.
  • Fan Creations: Drawings, sculptures, quantum-entangled light-shows. If you can make it, we want to see it.
  • Fanfictions: Want to write or read works on the subject of Spiral Knights? You've come to the best place.
  • Roleplays: The land where special snowflakes and brooding anti-heroes come to have tea and talk about how awesome they are.

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Another aspect we have not yet begun to understand are what do we do when there are overlaps? A discussion on concepts of Spiral Knights expressed as a fanfiction. A discussion on balancing Lockdown classes. Where do they go?

Coelydragon's picture
Coelydragon
@Ghret

Cool. The outline looks great. I guess I'll let you take over that. It's a big job though so I suggest you get some people to work on specfic parts or at least co-compile the various threads. I'm going to write up a rough draft so Eury can approve or disapprove of the plan. Rather annoying how long it's taking to get a yes or no or even maybe from her... Oh and I did think about overlaps. If the overlap is within the same section, put it under all relevant categories. But if an arsenal topic also fits under a general dscussion category, ignore it and keep it within the arsenal.

Coelydragon's picture
Coelydragon
Table of Contents (Rough Draft for Arsenal)
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Coelydragon
RESERVED!

Swords

PLEASE DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD YET. ROUGH DRAFT IN PROGRESS.

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Coelydragon
RESERVED!

Guns

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Coelydragon
RESERVED!

Bombs

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Coelydragon
RESERVED!

Armor

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Coelydragon
RESERVED!

Shields

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Coelydragon
RESERVED!

Less-Serious Questions

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Coelydragon's picture
Coelydragon

Play-Style Guides

  • Offensive
  • Defensive
  • Balanced
  • Less Serious

Ok you can post now.

Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum

Might I suggest another category under suggestions called "the whole game" or just "other". There are some big threads like this and this that are more general and overarching or just don't fit into a category, but there aren't enough threads similar to them to warrant a full category.

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Coelydragon

Sigh...Oh well.