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Gunslinger Hats are too similiar.

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Sun, 06/23/2013 - 14:36
Il-Ladro's picture
Il-Ladro

I'm sure that the topic has been already touched many times and yet nothing changed.

It's pretty simple, let's suppose we want a Deadshot or Justifier, looking at the Gunslinger Hat Alchemy Path it is the only helm who doesn't minimally change for 3 "evolutions", thus the only 5 stars helm to be identical to his 3 stars version and the only helm to have another identical 5 stars helmet. Deadshot also clashes a lot in color with its red bandana over that brown neck and grey mantle, probably the only set that color-clashes in the entire game.

If you instead choose Shadwosun or Nameless it remains the same for only 2 "evolutions", changing at least in their final forms, still being identical to each other. Well, they have it better as they actually match their respective mantle.

Take Vog and Skolver, they keep the same shape but are for the rest totally different, just like they are different from Snarbolax or how Virulisk differs from Salamander or how Mad Bomber differs from Bombastic.
Gunslingers' are the helms with the least variety in the whole game.

As we are in the Suggestions Forum I would suggest to differentiate hats (ponchos are pretty fine) like this:

-Gunslinger Hat: being the first one I would just erase the golden star from the white hat, making it "weaker" looking.

-Sunset Stetson: since the Duster is brown now, the white hat clashes a lot, I would make it brown and still without star, the bandana is fine.

-Deadshot Chapeau: for this, I would keep it white, make the bandana brown (as the mantle's neck) and change the golden-star with a silver-skull, as the mantle has a skull in the back and makes sense with the "zombie-killer" set.
(it could also be cool to have a skull mouth on the bandana a la Skullomania but let's not ask too much XD)

-Justifier Hat: It is pretty fine, the golden star fits a "Justifier", maybe the bandana color could be changed to that lighter-brown of those shoulder pads on the jacket as the red isn't anymore so good on it.

-Nameless Hat: Nameless Hat is perfect, it is anonymous as it loses the star and fits the set perfectly.

-Shadowsun Stetson: It is also perfect, but I would anyway differentiate it from the Nameless by adding on it, instead of a star, a shadowy black sun.
(Yes, I know that the Sun is in fact a star but we never draw the sun with five points XD)

Well, they are pretty simple fixes, nothing too over the top so it's not asking much.
Tell me what you think and if you think it is a legit request.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 14:46
#1
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
well, seems legit.

80% of the gunslinger helms set have the same appearance.

P.S.: I'm not doing this because he's my guld master, I'm not...

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 15:31
#2
Iam-Darkness's picture
Iam-Darkness
I'm no gunner, but still...

Sounds like a good move. In all honesty, even in tier 2 everyone that is not wearing a costume tends to look the same. Basically, you either see wolver/dusker clones, or (less often) you see gunslinger clones. You don't see too much else...

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 15:41
#3
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

Doesn't the bandana represent personal color? You can't paint it brown to differentiate the sets.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 16:25
#4
Blake-Sky-Blade's picture
Blake-Sky-Blade
@Little-Juances

Nerp nerp. The bandana is red, always red. It is a nice heavy red, but heavy red and white don't really match up and yeah...

Anyway +1 to this, the poor gunslingers have only 2 different models really. But, OOO should give out costume versions of the two current models to those who have the hats currently, because I'm sure there's people that have a Shadowsun Setson who would not be happy to find a little black sun messing up their nice costume. :P

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 17:00
#5
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

Always red, you say?
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Deadshot_Chapeau
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Justifier_Hat
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Nameless_Hat
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Shadowsun_Stetson

One of us must be colorblind then.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 17:44
#6
Il-Ladro's picture
Il-Ladro
For bandana we mean the mask.

For bandana we meant the face-bandana, the mask, which is red in every hat and brown in Shadowsun and Nameless.

The one that changes color depending by the personal color is the hat band, the one that is on the hat itself.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 18:36
#7
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum

+1

Mon, 06/24/2013 - 04:52
#8
Il-Ladro's picture
Il-Ladro
Always underdog

Too bad that any topic regarding a minoritary-equipment gets stepped on but the evergreen anti-autoaim topics or weapons nerf and buffs requestas... so a simple graphical fix like this passes almost ignored while it would be incredibly easy to do. XD

Mon, 06/24/2013 - 07:51
#9
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
@Il-Ladro

Hence why I made this thread

Mon, 06/24/2013 - 09:23
#10
Il-Ladro's picture
Il-Ladro
Neat, just neat.

Probably one of the smartest idea I've ever seen, Hexzyle.

For what it matters I'll try to keep an eye to my forum too, as well as giving a +1 to yours, so we don't lose either of the two.
After all, the more the merrier =)
If "they" miss one there are stil chances the other emerges.

Mon, 06/24/2013 - 09:27
#11
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

This is what I call bandana
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081122101521/metalgear/es/images...

This is a handkerchief
http://manofinterest.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/mustache-bandit.png

And now for some reason I want a gunslinger with that moustache.

Mon, 06/24/2013 - 09:46
#12
Il-Ladro's picture
Il-Ladro
Let's settle semantics.

I just googled "Bandana" and first picture shown is this one:
http://www.shtfpreparedness.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/RedBandana.jpg

And in the very first page there is also this one:
http://www.likecool.com/Style/Accessories/Capital%20Bandana/Capital-Band...

It follows that it's the very same piece of clothing used differently, and still there is no bandana in those hat that changes color depending on personal one, only a hat-band, that isn't neither a handkerchief nor a bandana.

Then, I do not care about this semantic argument.

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