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Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:11
#51
Feyi-Feyi's picture
Feyi-Feyi

That is exactly why I am so disgusted Dragneel.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:17
#52
Oroseira's picture
Oroseira
I'll speak up...

I was the one who sent Feyi's letter. Then she snapped at me and I've pretty much lost all faith in everyone but the game masters. And I truly have suicidal thoughts.

Of course I'm a drama king. Of course nobody would miss me. Nobody would miss a bipolar person with Asperger's Syndrome who happens to be a drama king.

And no, I'm not begging for sympathy, that is far too late.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:17
#53
Arilys's picture
Arilys

@Seiran

I know what Hamachi is, I've used it to play Terraria, MC and some other games with friends :P I was just pointing out that both Phantomhamachi and Feyi's mystery messenger mentioned being introduced to SK by a friend while they played on a Hamachi network :3

@Feyi-Feyi

Draycos is right. Telling people to not care often has the complete opposite effect. It doesn't help that there's actually two people that got this kind of message.

I'll respect your wishes and keep away, though; Vog knows I've had to deal with enough drama already from a certain drama-heavy community. I'm certainly not looking forward to deal with any more of it from, of all things, Spiral Knights :P

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:20
#54
Arcknightdelta's picture
Arcknightdelta
@ Phantomhamachi

Man I was actually hoping it wasn't you.....

Well good to come out clean. Honestly mate I really think you need a break from this game. I do try my best to help you out but there is only so much I can do and this sort of thing doesn't help. Do you play Don't Starve?

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:21
#55
Oroseira's picture
Oroseira
@ Arcknightdelta

I don't play Don't Starve.

I can't take a break from this game, I just keep coming back to it out of being attached to it.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:26
#56
Arcknightdelta's picture
Arcknightdelta
@ Phantomhamachi

Well you need some change. First things first. Speak with your family your mom and dad will know exactly what to do trust me, I never lie.

Then ignore all the idiots who hate on you. They are only making themselves look bad. I tell you what. Next person who hates on you let me know. I'll get my staff out and weave some wall mage magic destroying their silly little comments. How about it?

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:27
#57
Draycos's picture
Draycos

Dragneel, when was this, while I was gone?

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:30
#58
Midnight-Dj's picture
Midnight-Dj
@arc

I'll get my staff out and weave some wall mage magic destroying their silly little comments. How about it?

*coughs* Freedom of expression *cough* *cough* Forum neutrality *cough*

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:39
#59
Seiran's picture
Seiran

Well, that's one mystery solved.

We still don't know who sent the message to Pandafishie :0

@Midnight-dj:
nuh-uh. The CMs/GMs can hide and redact things as they see fit. There was a certain other thread that went completely in a dark direction late at night and it's hidden now.

@Phantomhamachi:
- Light question: Did you create and delete a knight to send that mail?
- Serious note: I wish I had a better way to really say "if you're thinking about it, please don't", but if you do have those thoughts, in all seriousness, do tell someone and try to get help offline.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:42
#60
Oroseira's picture
Oroseira
@ Seiran

I did create a knight to send that mail.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:44
#61
Arcknightdelta's picture
Arcknightdelta

True. My thread is still hidden! OOO I demand my freedom of speech be honoured and restore my thread!

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:48
#62
Fangel's picture
Fangel
Just a notice on free speech:

By using these forums, you agree to any censorship on it that Three Rings deems necessary. On this website, your speech is not exactly free, but rather it is not restricted.

But no-one reads terms of service anyways so no-one would know this. :I

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:51
#63
Feyi-Feyi's picture
Feyi-Feyi

You're good people Seiran, and Arcknight. Don't think those weren't the first things I said to Phantom either..
I got less kind when I found out he sends me this pretty worrisome mail because of something that happened on one day because of one forum post.

Don't get me wrong phantom. I bear no grudge but you should have been honest from the start instead of making me worry.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 15:54
#64
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy
@Fangel

https://www.xkcd.com/1357/

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 16:15
#65
Glad-Amparus's picture
Glad-Amparus

LOL! Too funny! You guys will never guess who it is?

( 1. Find random forummer. 2. Spam. 3. Post random stuff. 4. Etc.)

In all seriousness this doesn't look like a legitimate message, but more of a "Oh look at me I'm so lovely" message. I don't think it's Xtweeterx. lol

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 17:44
#66
Pandafishie's picture
Pandafishie

@Phantom
Then she snapped at me
Feyi is a boy.

Also, I have no connection with Mawa whatsoever.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 04:45
#67
Dragneel-Wiki's picture
Dragneel-Wiki

@Dray:

I'm pretty sure you were around back then, but maybe not on the suggestions forums. He basically made a stupid suggestion (As most do) and kept the thread running then stirred the drama of "forumers" bullying him and hating on him, not so long till his supposedly "mom" logged into "Spiral Knights Forums" to tell the "forumers" who are also supposedly responsible for "Phantomhamachi's" suicide. Most didn't believe it, some did. It didn't really get into my mind, but hell, bad feeling did hit me to make us feel guilty of something. THEN AFTER ALL OF THAT, he just returns from a hiatus and says: "Hi guys"

@Phantomhamachi:

Nobody hates anyone for nothing, so nobody is picking on you because of you, being Phantomhamachi, it's just your actions. However, it's also not alright to pick on someone just because he is bad at expressing himself or something (Xtweeterx, Annilaton case was different, they were doing it just to be arrogant and annoying). And about you saying nobody would care if you killed yourself or you were gone, that's also not true, at all. I won't lie, I don't like your persona on the forums, but I, and all the good ol' forumers here ABSOLUTELY won't be happy if you attempt doing that sick thing. If someone dislikes you for your actions doesn't mean he wants you dead, you're a soul, you take space of this world, you are important for someone else, don't be selfish and take that from them.

I can't stop you from thinking about suicide, because it's up to you in the end, however, I strongly encourage you to think in a different way, and about the people that love you. <3

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 11:10
#68
Whimsicality's picture
Whimsicality

This matter bears some scary resemblance to the uproar of drama revolving around Yanama's supposed "death" by Leukemia, turning out to be a cover for his attempted suicide after much backlash for the lie being exposed. I honestly hate bringing up the topic of suicide notes and anything similar, as I myself have felt the vile temptation.

I cannot help in any way. None of us are capable of helping you with these thoughts, Phantom. I sincerely doubt any of the forum-users are professional psychiatrists. Find help. Find professional help. Whatever it may be that's eating at you, don't allow the forums to fuel your pent-up frustration. Take some down-time, talk to a doctor, talk to somebody. The thought that 'nobody would miss me' is ridiculous enough. The people that know you and love you would certainly feel it.

The internet causing people to commit suicide is nothing new. (Just look at tumblr's sense of 'social justice', after all.) Nothing new at all. But it can be prevented with help. Please. I may be arrogant when I say, but I do believe there are a lot of us who would rather strongly urge you to seek help for this, than to end it all. Have hope. Are the actions of the community's toxic people acceptable? No. No amount of 'Auto Target' or 'Elitism' could ever justify it. Are your actions acceptable? No. Please. No more shocking mail, no more downplaying others. Stop being so bitter. No more pretending to commit suicide. Don't even commit suicide, please! No more of this. Is it cause for death threats? Certainly not. Some people to stop taking out their feelings on each other. This is an insignificant forum for an insignificant web-game on the internet. Your life, everybody's lives. Are more important.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:17
#69
Rhagnarock
my 2 cents

Maybe Lugiru is planning his comeback scene with epic troll

IDK

Funny though...

Edit: Didn't read the last couple post but I wanna talk about it, find something that you enjoy and do eet! We all go through dark times and depression affect a lot more people than we think but you gotta find something you love and do it. At 21 I found out that I love learning and went back to school. Maybe I'll become teacher in the future? who knows? Just find something and hold on to it. Don't nurture bad habits.

I went from a metalhead hippy to a good looking, working, college student... Left all my friends in order to do something of my life, it's never too late and being happy is better than having money as my parents never made me happy but gave me money to be happy.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:26
#70
Bluencool's picture
Bluencool
Yawn.

The game is on!

Edit: Ah, Phantom confessed. Ignore this- unless you are in the mood to listen to some good music.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:37
#71
Arcknightdelta's picture
Arcknightdelta
Can I just point out

Can I just point out something without anyone taking offence. By now you should know I argue my side as fiercely as anyone on this forum, I know I am right and I won't be stopped until, and this is very important, UNTIL I am PROVEN wrong. So I don't mind having lengthy discussions and correcting anyone who tries to prove me wrong based on personal opinion. Big difference between personal opinion and solid fact. So please don't confuse the two when discussing with me and you THINK you are right. That's the way I am I won't change. However if I am wrong I'll be the first to admit it.

Hate me for this or love me, if I feel I can make a positive impact I'll push and push. My suggestion thread was hated on not because I wanted to harm or hate on people. It was hated on because a few individuals made such a massive deal of me trying to turn this forum into a policed society and they believe freedom of speech should allow us all to say what ever we want with minimal consequence. My suggestion was logical based on how things are successfully run on the Steam forum specifically on the Don’t Starve discussions forum where I HELP moderate with Klei developers. Those arguing against me had no solid logical argument to suggest my suggestion would not work here. Only Rating and Perronius came up with reasons which I accepted and dropped the whole thing. However when rules are upheld and individuals through accepting those rules learn to choose what they say more carefully, it produces and environment where constructed and positive topics can flourish. I can say hand on heart the community in that forum is the best I have ever seen. Same goes for the community at Klei Official Forum for Don't Starve. Why? Because rules are upheld with no 'grey' areas in between. No forum is perfect but it is much better than most forums.

Although I have started to familiarise myself here there are things that I dislike. What I hate is having a discussion where someone assumes something negative about you and proceeds to throw out little hateful comments. I hate it but I have learnt to put up with it, because I believe in myself and believe I am right as long as I can base my argument on LOGICAL FACTS. I have never started an argument on personal opinion and if I have, I have always accepted both sides and if wrong I apologised. I made one mistake with EOS and I made it clear in their thread I was sorry for the trouble I caused, after which I have never dabbled in their affairs (separate issue to the <69 thing).

Being on this forum (not including the Bazaar) I have seen quite a few people with strong personas. Honestly if we have ever had an argument over game related things I thoroughly enjoyed them and hold no bad or ill intentions for you. But not everyone is the same on this forum. Not every can tolerate full blown arguments, not everyone can tolerate negative comments, not everyone can tolerate hate. That is where this community fails. When individuals contemplate suicide this is a serious thing and honestly families can get involved along with police.

What you guys have to look at is the reasons why someone would go as far as to think of suicide. This must be acted on indefinitely. Everyone has a right to express themselves how they see fit, this is the internet, you feel protected sitting behind a screen typing what you type. You can say anything to anyone with no PHYSICAL harm. What you do say however, can cause MENTAL harm. So is it fair for individuals to have freedom of speech on a public forum where the slightest of comments can hurt someone immensely? My honest answer is yes. BUT freedom of speech should never be abused and those who do abuse it should be punished. OOO do an excellent job at that and I tip my hat to them. But it is clear some things are passing through undetected.

Now as a tight knit community it is up to all of us to help OOO by helping those we feel are being targeted unnecessarily. Reporting straight to OOO should be the first port of call. Supporting that targeted individual is just as important. What happens is one or two people will help while a bunch of people will leave silly little hateful comments. We call them trolls. You know who you are. We know who you are. So please stop. This is a gaming community, to have kids talk about suicide is very disturbing and not right. If you see someone saying something you find to be "stupid" either ignore it or correct them nicely. DON'T try and be CLEVER and say something to make YOU and your pathetic friends LAUGH. I can see people giving out advice. Yet it is those same people who have some cause to the reason why people are feeling bad about themselves. First you say what you want, then you are made to feel sorry, then you advise and feel apologetic? Funny thing is you then go and do the same hurtful thing to someone else. I am not targeting anyone in particular. If this has upset you, as you feel you may have upset someone. Use it as a tool to make yourself a better person.

This has gone too far now even if the victims are joking or being serious, the topic of suicide should never be mentioned on a forum where we all share one love. Spiral Knights.

AKD

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 16:02
#72
Pandafishie's picture
Pandafishie

Hey, this isn't dead.
CMs I'm still on the case. D:

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