Welp, it isn't Phanto, or Tweeter....
"I'm sorry" Message One
"P.S" Message Two
Anyone know who this is? (Still clueless)
Tue, 04/22/2014 - 22:16
Tue, 04/22/2014 - 23:00
#2
Tue, 04/22/2014 - 23:36
#3
Another speculation is that this person made an alt-knight just to send these then deleted them. :/ I spoke with Anni and Sirus (both forum banned) for a bit regarding this but they're a bit confused and conflicted as well.
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 00:01
#4
Wat
That's... Well, that's rather odd.
Enter detective mode
Player is young. Based on personal knowledge of Ceecee's age, the "age gap" mentioned, and the "dad introduced me to this game" mention.
Player plays TF2 and is a Steam user. Based on the "Steam friends" and "TF2" mention in the first link.
Player held some sort of respect for Ceecee, but not for one of their female friends. Based on their "befriend" comment.
Player has resentment for most forumers, thus must be a forumer or a forumer from a while ago. Based on the first paragraph of the first link.
Player edited / double-posted, or didn't finish thoughts before posting. A bit of guesswork and logic derived from the first sentence of the second link.
Player brings up father. First real paragraph of second link.
Player has been playing since 2011. First real paragraph of second link.
Views forumers as very defined groups of people, not as individuals. Generalizing forumers as "haters", "complainers", "whiners", etc.
There's a few more but that's enough to work with for now.
Looking over what I've said here it really does look like Tweeter. The fact that they mentioned Annilaton and Sirius as prime examples makes me think even more-so. Many forumers held a rather... Putrid disliking for Tweeter after the whole mass-postings that happened, so I can see him viewing the forums as a hostile place.
Tweeter or not, I hope you end up in a place with less hostility, mystery person.
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 03:05
#5
Mentioned you knowing the steam account and the part of eavesdropping, just a though but there is an arrow by steam name on their profile pages that lets you view their aliases.
Unrelated, but what's with people and TF2 when they think of SK?
Copious bonud
Copiuos bound
/fixed
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 06:19
#6
Errr...
I'm guessing it was [REMOVED] that sent the message and he made an alt and deleted it...
P.S I removed it because[REMOVED] was forcing me to do it so that his reputation doesn't change or whatever :/ Sorry MeiMei
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 06:20
#7
i feel like i should ask who Ceecee is...
I have no idea.
I immediately thought of Phantomhamachi here, and I kind of hope they did this. Would be a great way for them to restart. It also bears noting th at their dad introduced them to this game, and i only know of a couple father/child combos (excluding me and mine). I'm hoping it's not any of those I know, that's for sure.
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 06:27
#8
Who is this?
I know it isn't Phantomhamachi, he made a guild called, "Extended Horizon", I also saw him this morning roaming around Haven, I think it's "Tweeter", just because he mentioned "Annihalton" and "Sirius", Tweeter was more connected too them, not Phantom, also add Phantom, he's not "a retired knight". \o/
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 06:45
#9
Well, the PMs say something about associating you with "her". How many SK friends do you have that could have had beef with a certain female knight?
Could it have been a guildmate from a previous guild? Someone from a certain circle of friends?
:0
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 06:46
#10
@Seiran
Well.. um.. I know many girls.. but not mean not people with bad feuds with 'em. :/
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 06:52
#11
It says 'minion' of hers, so maybe someone higher ranked in the guild, or someone played with often who's more of a leader type?
Goodness, where does this kind of heavy drama even come from o.o;
The most drama I ever see in-game is shortlived, because it's like "AHH YOU KILLED ME. I'LL GET YOU BACK!".
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 07:05
#12
Didn't Mawa quit recently or something? Maybe I'm way off here but that'd add up slightly. She doesn't really have a good reputation. Either way, I have no idea. Don't know Pandafishie or their guild name at all so I could hardly say.
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 07:28
#13
I'm sure it was Tweeter, he did mention a lot of TF2 stuff...
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 07:32
#14
It's too obvious that it's Tweeter. But the "her" alias gives a mysterious vibe, the one in thrillers... Anyway, he is taking way too serious, and tbh, he brought it to himself. He wanted to be infamous, and he got his infamy.
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 07:46
#15
! . . . ?
- I thought it was Tweety but he's still listed on my friends list... Err anyone have any ideas?
- I'm sure it was Tweeter, he did mention a lot of TF2 stuff...
- Another speculation is that this person made an alt-knight just to send these then deleted them.
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 07:51
#16
Another thing I'm confused about is what exactly are these saying...
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 08:17
#17
@Krakob
The guild name is Owsla, and Mawa would seem about right, but what did she do too piss off Tweeter or what did Tweeter do too cause the bad feud between them? If incase it is Mawa who is the "her"..
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 08:24
#18
It's not Mawa, I am sure.
Mawa is mine. :3
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 08:27
#19
was it tweeter
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 08:38
#20
Regarding to the 'her' - "if you weren't a minion to that female devil"
They also mention about 'she's' heartless and how my connection to this 'her' figure really bothered them.
Erm. All my female friends are quite heart-ful I'd say.
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 08:58
#21
o_ o
"Erm. All my female friends are quite heart-ful I'd say."
I bet the "she" this mystery writer is talking about is Fangel. . . she gives off that heartless vibe ~.~
/me eyes Fangel suspiciously
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 12:17
#22
Fangel? Heartless? Well she did kill me in Lockdown when I was trying to put out bubbles, so she's sorta evil.
More seriously, most likely a troll. inb4 "Well duh"
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 12:27
#23
Roses are red, murder is blue, yet they don't have a clue.
Is there anyone in SK you always follow/respect or something? I think if we can find out who "she" is, we can find out who the sender is possibly
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 12:27
#24
Fangel is genderless; they respond to he, she, they, and it :3
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 12:35
#25
Why they? It's not like Fangel's secretly a family of people playing as the same person. Or is it?
I prefer xe, which although not officially recognized sounds better than it.
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 12:43
#26
They prefer to remain genderless that so they won't be judged by being a certain gender.
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 13:09
#27
Pipipipipi, the sender is Tweeter. "Her" is probably Princess Peach.
#fun
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 13:24
#28
When I see the phrase "balance complainers", I instantly think of Tweeter. Then there's the mention of Sirius and co., which makes it even more likely.
I'm sorry for giving feedback using a medium designed for giving feedback. It's not like "just stop whining" is an acceptable answer. Ignoring problems doesn't make them go away.
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 13:34
#29
Heart Of Valor.
So Tweeter, huh? No other options? It seems about right. I guess it's already been accepted. (Referring to the past ten or so posts saying mostly the same thing.)
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 20:21
#30
This sort of drama sounds like HFA. <.<
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 23:54
#31
....
I can vouch that it's Tweeter
Thu, 04/24/2014 - 01:23
#32
Oh hey that conversation came up again.
Hold on there, Potato! Bubbles that aren't floating about aren't a distraction for me yet.
pls dont spread the word
And were you one of those people who wanted my heartless vibe, Jazzcakes? Sorry, I only had one. :(
Jokes aside, this is probably one of the larger drama topics we've had for a while that doesn't have to do with auto target or imbalances... Actually makes those topics seem like a breath of fresh air.
Thu, 04/24/2014 - 02:33
#33
^
Speaking of which...where's Ardent-whats-his-face?
Thu, 04/24/2014 - 03:31
#34
:/
Damn it, this retired knight needs to get it right, I am a man!!!
"Dude, he is talking about you..."
You sure? Because this mysterious guy said, that whiners, balance complainers, the ones who thinks they can just say anything they want without a care in the world are the reason why he/she quit. And guess what I always say when I am in the forum spreading hate? "I get to say what ever I want!"
So I guess we know who the murderer is now, it is... me...
ps. and also, since me and pandafishie are both Chinese, is that what he/she meant by that you are link to the female devil Aka. me???
Thu, 04/24/2014 - 03:49
#35
Nocturne-Grande
Ardent was sirius' alt.
That guy made threads with sirius then went and responded to them with his alt ardent. He also liked to hate on mawashingmachino whenever she posted something. I'm guessing he lost his purpose when mawa stopped posting.
Mon, 04/28/2014 - 14:53
#36
Update
Sirius mailed me confirming it was not Tweeter.
He said "It wasn;'t Tweeter. We are doing some runs together" So, I'm assuming that he asked him about the two messages; he told me to look up this post ect.
... the mystery continues ...
Mon, 04/28/2014 - 15:04
#37
Maybe someone was just screwing with him.
Mon, 04/28/2014 - 15:34
#38
Alright guys.
Chill out. None of these forummers were as bad as Shoebox or Damienfoxy.
Sirius and Ardent are two entirely different people. Ardent got forum-banned because of some random April Fool's Day stuff. Sirius, while being generally immature on the forums, is actually a pretty cool person to play with in-game. Also, the man we once knew to be Annilaton has changed to an atmosphere set alight. Those two pictures prove it.
Also I think that female devil is our Washing Machine, if you know what I mean.
Mon, 04/28/2014 - 16:41
#39
@Poomph
What did Washing Machine do to be a "female devil"?
I never saw anything bad they said, but then again I've never seen them in game so I can't say anything.
Mon, 04/28/2014 - 16:56
#40
Tue, 04/29/2014 - 03:12
#41
I am the King of the Hipsters [citation needed]
There is no way I'd send that. I don't know Pandafishie, period. I wasn't introduced to Spiral Knights by my father - that was by a friend on a Hamachi network that he used to set up a Terraria server.
I suspect it's Tweeter.
Tue, 04/29/2014 - 03:12
#42
A mystery thread.
Trying my best to start a fake one at the Don’t Starve forum just for fun. You know like a mystery murder game thing where we all role play. But you guys....you guys are naturals.
Personally judging by how this "mysterious retired knight" is talking I can only assume it is a wind-up. Someone seeking attention for self amusement without all the unnecessary attention. Quite genius if you ask me. We could all be next to receive a letter from this guy. Calling it now. Midnight-Dj you're next!
Tue, 04/29/2014 - 13:15
#43
The mail I got was quite a bit darker.. To the point were it goes from 'nice troll' to 'dude, no laughing matter'
http://imgur.com/snSKSc1,EJr98wJ#1
http://imgur.com/snSKSc1,EJr98wJ#0
Tue, 04/29/2014 - 13:35
#44
@ Feyi-Feyi
Wait is that you messing with me? I wasn't actually being serious that this guy will start mailing people? So this is all some crazy game?
So he has a hit list?
Tue, 04/29/2014 - 13:51
#45
I say it's someone making alts and then deleting them so they can get attention/make people wonder what they did wrong and feel bad. I mean, really, Pandafishie got the first two messages on the 22nd and Feyi-Feyi got a similar one today? I see at least two alts that were deleted after sending the messages.
Given, Feyi-Feyi's message is a bit more worrisome than Pandafishie's. But then again, if they're depressed or something like that there's nothing we can do to help. Both because we have no certainties on who they are in the first place and because even if we did I doubt that many people would actually know them IRL to try to convince them to do something about how they feel (as in, convince them to get some kind of therapy/treatment).
EDIT
Oh hey, just noticed something. Feyi-Feyi's message mentions that the sender got to know about SK from a friend that they used to play Terraria with, using Hamachi. (Sorry about jacking your pic; just wanted to make sure people see what I'm talking about!)
Look at this here post.
"I wasn't introduced to Spiral Knights by my father - that was by a friend on a Hamachi network that he used to set up a Terraria server."
So now it's either Phantomhamachi playing a bad joke or someone trying to screw with him. :T
Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:06
#46
:0
hohh.
Similar nature!
Now we have these facts:
- Pandafishie received mail April 22 from < A retired Knight >
- Feyi received mail April 29 from < A retired Knight >
- The character that sent mail to Pandafishie was deleted on April 22. (thread post date + mail date in image)
- The character that sent mail to Feyi was deleted on April 29 (post date + mail date in image)
- The player that sent mail to Pandafishie was introduced to SK by his dad "3 years ago".
- The player that sent mail to Feyi was introduced to SK by a "friend on Hamachi" in December 2011, so they're probably different people.
I'll call Pandafishie's mailer "P" and Feyi's mailer "F".
- P was on friendly terms with Pandafishie .
- P dislikes a certain "female devil" that Pandafishie is associated with. ("I actually would have befriended you if you weren't aminion of that female devil")
- P knew (or had an idea of) Pandafishie's age ("age gap"). Someone you've had slightly more personal information exchanged with?
- F knows Feyi and had a negative interaction with him.
- F has written fanfiction (so... maybe someone who has threads/posts in the Treasure Vault).
- F "came back to gaming" in 2013, so he was probably not too active in 2012, and the major interactions probably happened in 2013-2014.
- Forums are a big part of both P and F's drama, so think back to forum interactions you've had.
Now for my own ideas:
- I only really see Feyi's interactions in the Coliseum, so maybe F is someone who used to post often there. Most people who continually post there have thick skin and experience to deal with LD in its entirety, so maybe it's someone who had spiky contact with Feyi in that forum? Unfortunately, the only person I can think of who used to post in the Coliseum with some kind of bad rep following him around was Terrty, but I can't really see him writing like that.
- I was hoping they'd be the same knight, but unless the person forgot who introduced him, the discrepancy between "dad" introducing and "a friend on Hamachi" introducing is kind of hard to mix up :x
[edit]
@Arilys:
Hamachi is a program that lets people play games as if they were on the same network, but via the internet. It's really nice for games that have LAN multiplayer but don't have a dedicated online server, like the Attack on Titan fangame (RIP :((( )
Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:06
#47
I won't go into detail but forget about this. Trust me, you don't even want to know.
Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:07
#48
Telling people they don't want to know only makes them want to know more.
Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:08
#49
Someone is totally craving for attention here. From my point of view, I'd say it's a bad attempt for "joking". Like, don't you remember when Phantom himself made that fake "suicide" and his mom came on the forums bursting all over the place then he simply says:
it was a joke, hurr i am not ded"
Seriously, it's not even remotely funny to fake your suicide, let alone making stories and mysterious aliases around it and leaving "no names".
Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:09
#50
I have 3 possible suspects in mind. I'm not trying to upset anyone by suspecting you may be the ones behind these messages. I'm just kind of interested now and based on recent events it seems either of you 3 might be involved
Mawashimono - everyone knows both Phantomhamachi and Mawashimono were on good terms back when Phantomhamachi used to make "those" threads. Maybe she is getting some revenge over Midnight-Dj comment about what he said to Phantomhamachi to go hang out with Mawashingmachine as he is not wanted here, and by getting her revenge she is trying to stitch up Phantomhamachi as she is angry to be associated with him. Phantomhamachi did say earlier he had enough of her. But the dates of recent events and the messages don't add up....unless she has been planning this for a while.
Phantomhamachi - has unfortunately been bullied by a group of players known only to him. He could be on a revenge tour and this is his way at getting back at those people he deems to be a nuisance on the forums. However he is one to quickly correct his mistakes. So I doubt he would risk something like this without having the option to change what he wrote. So he could be doing this for amusement and entertainment. A change from how he was treated on this forum and in game.
Xtweeterx - now this is a long shot. He has been thrown a lot of hate his way. This could also be his way at getting back at those who hated on him by making them feel bad. I may be more inclined to believe it is Tweeter. Fangel sussed out some connection between Xtweeterx and Annilaton and Sirius and from reading random Xtweeterx comments in the past he definitely likes to bring these two names up.
Just a guess.
Edit: Guess I'll elaborate. I know Phantom usually always brings up his bad reputation on the forums. And I know he has the tendency to call people evil. I think he made a thread where he called out all of Echo of Silence, calling them jerks.