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Thank you, Spiral Knights. I bid you a loving farewell.

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Tue, 04/29/2014 - 09:11
#51
Oroseira's picture
Oroseira
^^

Venomousbiohazard gave a feel-grabbing story
I agree.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 09:13
#52
Krakob's picture
Krakob

I'll never forget that one time you insulted me to death, tihi~

Good to hear SK has meant what it has meant to you. I know the feeling of escaping into games due to IRL issues, and I'm sure a lot of others do as well. My biggest hardships weren't when I was playing SK, they were before. Still, I've had troubles which I've managed a lot better thanks to friends I have because of SK.

Anyway, take care and remember that you can always play with the favourite teddy ever once in a while. No need to throw it out the window.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 09:15
#53
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
Girls do their best now and are preparing.

@ Hexzyle This is so true, but the response seems to be a bit more than just Phantom's post.

Yeah I think you're right. I was just being a bit of a drama queen.

What's the deal with the judgmental posts about VBH's situation? Can't we all be like "Cool story bro" (and mean it) and then say goodbye? Instead of just arguing about someone else's life like we're on the Home and Away forums. (Oh wait, that's only in Australia. What's an international equivalent? o.O)

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 09:18
#54
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
@Me

FIVE THAWSAND NAIN HUNDRED AND FIFTY MATHERPOOPING EPISODES?

Dayumn people love drama.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 09:44
#55
Arcknightdelta's picture
Arcknightdelta
@ Jabbzz

Ah sorry. I see you were maybe responding to Dementia-Praecox comment. Sorry I thought you thought I was involving your first post in the argument. My bad, heat of the moment thing there :)

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 10:01
#56
Jabbzz's picture
Jabbzz

Yeah I didn't put the @ Dementia-Praecox part since I responded so late, so It looked a bit out of place lol. But Its no problem, I understand you were just defending your point :]

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 10:18
#57
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Draycos

Sorry for being pedantic. Yes, I somehow misinterpreted AKD's posts and also tried to twist my own posts into something else in order to keep this whole "argument" going- even when there wasn't even a meaningful point I was trying to make.

The reason I stopped posting was because of things like this. It needs to stop... again.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 10:25
#58
Arcknightdelta's picture
Arcknightdelta

What ever your intention was, I'll be sure to point out any more assumptions which are unnecessary in the future, one day you will look back and see I was actually right.

Oh before I leave I would like to leave that quote from my boss I posted earlier.

"When you assume wrongly you are making an ASS out of U and ME"

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 10:33
#59
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Yvanblo
...

Great name, Venomousbiohazard! I'm not sure I ever met you in-game, or had much contact with you on the forums. However, one does not simply walk away from Spiral Knights. Perhaps just take a break, then pick up this fine game another day/month/year.

Consider what you are doing, and the choices you are making, they can affect your life forever.

I have several homosexual relatives and friends who I enjoy spending time with. I don't treat them any different than anyone else. But I also don't encourage their homosexuality. There is a reason God made a woman's body the shape it is... because it makes men go "oo la la!". There are few things in life that compare to a curvacious wife... you might find that a woman's touch is a wonderful thing. Think about it.

My goodness folks, are you not being a bigot by calling VB's Mom a bigot? Can she not express her opinion? He is/was, after all, underage, and is in the care of his parents. They are doing what they think is right. Cut her some slack. [EDIT] Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying she was right in "demonizing" him... she should have been more tactful, and she should not continue to bring it up over and over again. But she should express her concern for him.

Dude, Don't leave Spiral Knights.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 10:45
#60
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Draycos

Hey, if you actually want this to keep going, then sure. Let's keep it to mail or /tell, though. I've spammed up this thread enough already.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 10:51
#61
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Gianor
Hamachi, you make me laugh.

>Tries to be the cool kid of the forums and bash a goodbye thread.
>Gets hated on by the community for being heartless.
>Redacts everything he had previously said to rather acknowledge the meaning of the thread and try to regain his popularity.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go get my inhaler, because I ran out of breath laughing at this.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 11:34
#62
Arcknightdelta's picture
Arcknightdelta
@ Draycos

Why carry on? I've said what I have to say.

I might just stick around and see who replies to Yvanblo comment.

@ Gianor people should actually take note of what Phantomhamachi did. He made a mistake. He was told what he did wasn't right and he corrected himself. In my books this kid done good.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 11:05
#63
Gianor's picture
Gianor
While you may be correct...

It doesn't pardon it from being hilarious.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 11:24
#64
Sloveniangirl's picture
Sloveniangirl
I still don't understand...

...Why ppl have to talk about issues in real life on games' forums? I better don't even begin talking about some comments there because I don't have time to waste.

You know...

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 11:29
#65
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Draycos

Because I'm a different person when I'm not arguing because I can [I actually do agree with you on some things], I don't want to trash up this thread any more, and I enjoy conversation!

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 11:50
#66
Arcknightdelta's picture
Arcknightdelta
@ Draycos

I edited my comment above.

When you put it like that.......Ok fair enough. It's always refreshing to meet on relatively good terms in the end. Just don't expect another conversation any time soon. I'm about to watch the Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich CL semi final match.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 12:24
#67
Addy's picture
Addy
Above all else, I just hope

Above all else, I just hope you're happy, Bio. We've never spoken before but I'm glad you're able to be honest with yourself. Good luck and have a good life, honestly. <3

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 12:45
#68
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Sir-Greenlink
We might not have talked too

We might not have talked too much but I thought I'd wish you the best of luck. It was fun having you around but I hope you enjoy your life. :)

See ya,
~Sir-Greenlink - former fellow guild member

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 12:53
#69
Bluencool's picture
Bluencool
Yawn.

Concrete evidence video games are no waste of time.

/salute

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 13:15
#70
Oroseira's picture
Oroseira
"It doesn't pardon it from being hilarious."

>Calls someone heartless without logic that if you are heartless you wouldn't have been born
>Makes a stupid list like this containing a bunch of personal attacks
>Gets off on someone's tears

You sir made a huge mistake. You've also proven yourself a hypocrite and illogical.
1. If you didn't have a heart, you would be dead, as it's vital to life.
2. Getting off on someone else's tears is completely wrong. Unless you're Atlus.
3. And yes I am aware of my hypocrisy that I made a list like that.

"try to regain his popularity."
What popularity?

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 13:37
#71
Sciger's picture
Sciger
@Venomousbiohazard

Heavens, it's been a long time since I've seen you around man! I don't know if you remember me much, we didn't chat too much when we were both in the Watch iirc. My memory while in the Watch is kinda fuzzy. XD

I wish you the best, man. I know we probably wouldn't agree on a few things but you have your own life and your own choices as a human being on this planet. I respect that. Nice seein' ya in game and I hope you'll log in every so often to see how it has changed. c:

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 13:48
#72
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare
Goodbye /wave

Goodbye

/wave

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:21
#73
Venomousbiohazard's picture
Venomousbiohazard
To clear things up

There's been a lot of debate with what happened with my mother. If you want, I can clarify the mother situation. She had me and my brothers all at the last second, when she was 45. So you honestly can't blame her. She grew up in an environment that associated gay people as being a "bad" thing. My mother gave up her life and dedicated it to raising me and my brothers. She's pretty overprotective so seeing over 500+ adult LGBT websites on my history was a shock to her, I suppose. It was just against everything she taught. Still though, handled terribly on her part.

However, there's no denying that that really hurt me for a long time, led to depression, etc. If you have kids make sure that you don't do anything like that, never try to make people into what they can't be.

My mother's gotten over it but still refuses to think that I could possibly be gay, and that I can't make such an "important decision" like that at 16. Eh, whatever. She's still a great parent in every other way, and I stopped caring about her opinions a while ago anyhow. I still have a dad and two brothers that are cool with it, so it's no problem.

Thanks for all the kind goodbyes and the support i've been getting. It really means a lot to me.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 17:04
#74
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Arcknightdelta
@ Venomousbiohazard

You didn't need to clear your position up with your mom for us. But it's good to know the circumstances and position your mom was in. She sounds like a very strong woman. You should be proud of her.

I knew I was right when I said she cared. All mothers care. Granted they have their own way of expressing it but it's always there. She did what she thought was right. In time you will learn to respect her for that, right now you are young and not at that age where you will know you made the right decision before you make it.

Your mother gave her life for you. You said it yourself. Honour that. You are a man. Never upset her. All mothers over react. She is a woman after all. But as her son it's your job to never go above the decision your mom makes. I guarantee you she will never do anything to harm you.

Just want to point out and many people won't like what I am about to say. Anyone who tells you straight up your mom is wrong is no friend. A true friend will advise you that your parents know best, and you should respect them no matter how angry they get with the choices you make in life. Remember my words.

Hope the trolls who called your mom a bigot read this and feel ashamed at what they said.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 15:29
#75
Pepperonius's picture
Pepperonius
(from Perro) @Sciger and @VBH

and pretty much everyone in TNW's heyday and thereafter. People like you guys made TNW a place where VBH, and many others, felt comfortable to express themselves and be open about many things. For all of the strange debate that has gone on in this thread, I've enjoyed reading the people who came to support it, and rise to it's defense as well. Some few even realized the error of their ways (yet again) and tried to recant their tomfoolery, based on those who stood up for you.

Someone said it earlier on, but [sic] it's not just a game, it's a community. I think that's about the size of it. Anywhere that you feel you can be yourself, and take the starting steps towards bettering your life is a good thing.

VBH, you don't have to outgrow a game, but it's possible there is nothing left for you. Perhaps when the Core finally opens, you'll come back and explore with us.

*edit: I didn't realize the name change would take effect on the forums as well, it's Perro

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 14:47
#76
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Midnight-Dj
:)

Hope the trolls who called your mom a bigot read this and feel ashamed at what they said.

Feel ashamed? Quite in the contrary, I am glad that VBH could get things cleared up, we never had the choice of which family we born into. And in my case, I wished someone else could have been my mother, but that wouldn't happen no matter how hard I wished. Think of it, as my struggle with the truth of what my life could have been. Who knows, if my mother happens to be more like the ladies in my fan fics and comic, I could have been a totally different person when I grow up. But fate is the most cruel parent of them all, I can see its intentions, but could never figure it out until it is too late.

But as the aspect of anarchy and freedom of this forum, I truely wish you well in your life. Believe what you want to believe and do what you want to do, and you can't let anyone to stop you from doing other wise. As for your mother, she fufilled her duty as a mother to raise you, she tought you what she believed what was right and wrong, and there is nothing with that. Bigot is only subjective to who is using it, those who fought the bigots for too long will eventually become a bigot themselves.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 15:16
#77
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Draycos

Good to hear life's treating you better than most of us were thinking.

Also... hahaha, oh man, I can't believe this. I just realized the only person in the entire thread that called VBH's mom a bigot was Midnight. All other comments were about the anti-gay views, not her as a person.

I... think that was what I was originally going to say, that those views suck, not that it was OK to write her off as a terrible person nobody likes. Then I started going full-tilt.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 15:58
#78
Arcknightdelta's picture
Arcknightdelta
@ Midnight-Dj

those who fought the bigots for too long will eventually become a bigot themselves.

This contradicts what you are saying. You're calling his mom a bigot, so If Venomousbiohazard fights against his mom he too will become a bigot. What are you teaching this kid?

Surely if Venomousbiohazard agreed with what his mom said he wouldn't be fighting against her views therefore he wouldn't become a bigot. By your thinking.

Midnight-Dj your logic has always amazed me. I wouldn't have much fun on this forum if I didn't have you to correct every time you say something stupid.

Can I ask you a personal question. Do you believe in a god? If you don't feel comfortable answering that just ignore me. If your answer is yes. Then do you believe our time on this earth is a test? If your answer to that is yes. Then do you believe in hard times we are being tested? If your answer is yes. Then do you believe every test in life is only passed through hard work? If your answer is yes. Then by everything you say you are failing in life. Same questions goes out to anyone else who is going through hard times.

Even if you don't believe. Life is still hard. In order to achieve your goals and truly be happy with yourself you have to take whatever life throws at you. Stop making excuses we are stuck with what we have so we are always going to be miserable. Like you said you choose your life so choose what is right and be happy with it. Stop always being so negative unless you actually enjoy being negative :)

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 15:51
#79
Draycos's picture
Draycos

I think he was trying to connect this to the quote "he who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster."

This isn't the right time to use that quote, though.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 16:06
#80
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Midnight-Dj
:/

I didn't mention once in my post that I want VBH to fight against his mother's will, and also, you can still believe in God despite been Gay. So the two ideals aren't mutually exclusive. VBH can accept his mother's view while still be whatever he wants to be.

Do you believe in a god?

Perhaps a better question could be asked...

is Sin the by product of freewil?

If the answer is yes, then I will never go to heaven with God, if there is no sins in heaven, then it must not have freewill too. I choose to hate, to love, to create and to destroy, and I will be more than happy to burn in hell rather then having to be suspressed of my emotion to only love. Love along doesn't make me human, and since I can't be human in heaven, then I would happily die as one. And cease to exist.

do you believe our time on this earth is a test?

If you want my atheist opinion on this one, then I can tell you that our time on earth is all we ever had. Because even of there is heaven and you happened to end up there once you died, you won't be able to affect anything back on earth. You just can't, there is only one god, and she/he makes all the call.

OMG DJ, no one wants to hear your anthiest bullcrap, go hang out with TJ and Mr. repzion on Utube or sumthing

Okay fine, I will just say what I wanted to say and I will keep the rest of my opinion for myself:

There are three things which you can leave in this world to make your life worth it:

GENE
Self- explainatory, you pass your gene to your children, and they are in one way or another a projection of you. And their grand children, great grand children will have your blood running through their vien. With every deaths, there is a life, the never ending cycle will continue as usual. There is no point of playing god here. Nothing lasts forever, you and I will return to the ashes that once given birth to us.

MEME
What is the first thing that came into your head when you see a swaztika? Let me guess, an angry, short, white man with a very distinguished moustache. And let me guess his name, is it, Adolf Hitler? Yes indeed, swaztika, once a symbol of peace is ruined by his madness, Hitler left this world with one hell of a meme -"Nazi is bad, mmK?", almost 60 years after his death, you can still see his shadow looming over the world, a grim reminder of what the power of hate can really do.

SCENE
A scene could be anything, a piece of art work, a statue, or just an inspirational guote. The reason why people remember the artists' name is due to their works, or the scenes they left behind. From a beautiful fire work that lasted for a blink of an eye to a statue that survived the stains of time. These scenes and the people who created them will never be forgotten.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 17:05
#81
Arcknightdelta's picture
Arcknightdelta
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Tue, 04/29/2014 - 16:35
#82
Curious-Mewkat's picture
Curious-Mewkat
Guys stahp, let's just agree

Guys stahp, let's just agree that we should not bother about other peoples' lives because it does not concern us. That's the most obvious logic to be said. Why be concerned about what homosexuals do?

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 19:10
#83
Aphrodite's picture
Aphrodite
Community Manager
♥

Friendly GM reminder: No personal attacks (this includes all ur moms) and please stay on-topic. This thread is about saying goodbye to Venomousbiohazard, and not a place to debate social issues, right vs wrong, child-rearing philosophies, etc.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 20:10
#84
Spiltmilk's picture
Spiltmilk
@Venomousbiohazard

You remind me why I enjoy playing spiral knights. To play games with complete strangers and have a great time and maybe, become good friends. Last night on mumble, everyone was talking about their time with you and said a lot of nice things. Looks like you will be missed. Best of luck, and possibly see you around in the future.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 03:22
#85
Sloveniangirl's picture
Sloveniangirl
@Aphrodite

Yes, Sloveniangirl agrees with Aphrodite!

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 03:59
#86
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian
Graveyard this thread aphro.

Venomousbiohazard, letting the internet know of your personal issues is not exactly a good idea. Your best bet is to talk it out with relatives other than your parents.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 09:08
#87
Warranty-Expired's picture
Warranty-Expired
@Mystrian

this game was venomousbiohazard's gateway and I'm sure you had one.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 10:03
#88
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian

I did in fact have a gateway, but I wouldn't let the internet know what it was. Besides considering someones privacy is important

I know this is Venomousbiohazard's decision, but i'm just putting out some advice.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 10:45
#89
Sloveniangirl's picture
Sloveniangirl
@Mystian

I agree. Games' forums are not desinged for things like that as I said before and there is no reason to explain things like that to random ppl on the internet.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 10:52
#90
Arkode
lmao

yes all of you who think it is such a touching story, be good little sheep >^.^<

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