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[Test] Does time affect the chance of getting 4 tokens from any boss run?

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Fri, 10/03/2014 - 12:30
Meep-The-Bank's picture
Meep-The-Bank

Hi there! I've recently figured out a few things and have noticed that if I was to speed run JK and complete it before 15 minutes, I'd usually get 4 tokens. Krakob has informed me of some people actually trying it out however there has been no recent threads I could find involving it. People tell me it's ''always random'' whether you get 3 tokens or 4 tokens. So I'm going to start a project I'd like to share with the community. Will test this with all boss runs and try to find a conclusion probably in about a few months time but in the mean time, would like some people to feedback on this thread about the state of it. Anyways, I'm going to be testing out:

Does time affect the chance of getting 4 tokens from any boss run?

Methodology
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1. There will be 400 runs.
- 100 runs for each boss.
- These 100 runs will be divided into 50 runs speed running before the allocated time listed and 50 runs that surpass the time by 2-10 minutes.
- All runs will be done on normal.

2. All 'clean' runs will be recorded. 'Clean' being no breaks within running sessions, having the party solo / locked and no interference with other people during the run to alter the results in anyway. The party must be only started by me and finished by me. Disconnections and lag problems will instantly void the run and it's results.

3. All runs will be timed, using the steam overlay clock I have and once I have obtained the tokens after finishing the run, I'll work out the time taken and report it along with the amount of tokens gained.
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I'm going to update this later. As well as do some other runs. Just leave some feedback down below VVV

Results (because downloading Microsoft onto an OS X Mac system is just too long and I don't know how to work doc.google to make the stuff I'd like .-.)
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{Snarby Runs: Less than 15 minutes}
Run 1 - Snarby - Tokens: 3 / Time: 8:16
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{Snarby runs: More than 15 minutes}
Run 26 - Snarby - Tokens: / Time:
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[I'll just put this into a simpler and efficient table later]

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 12:40
#1
Skepticraven's picture
Skepticraven
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My data from awhile ago.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 12:53
#2
Meep-The-Bank's picture
Meep-The-Bank
Meep.

@Skepticraven Nice set of results, Skeptic. I might try and prove myself some stuff and possibly reinforce your point with newer proof if my evidence shows it.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 13:16
#3
Skepticraven's picture
Skepticraven
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If you do end up completing this, you would have roughly 4x my sample size. It takes a long time, good luck.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 14:25
#4
Bopp's picture
Bopp
minutes to beat the boss

I also have some data on this, but I measured the time needed for the *boss fight*, not the whole mission. I found no relationship between this time and tokens received. I'll post the data later.

Edit: Here are the data, for Ironclaw Munitions Factory, mostly (maybe all) on normal difficulty. The numbers are the approximate minutes elapsed between getting on the party button and the twins falling. Some of these data came from Donkeyhaute.

3 tokens: 5, 4, 4, 4, 5, 3, 3, 2, 2, 9, 2, 2, 3, 2, 2, 4, 2, 5, 4, 2, 2, 2, 2, 4, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 2, 3, 3, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2, 5, 3, 1, 2, 3, 3, 2, 3, 2, 2, 2, 3, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2, 4

4 tokens: 3, 2, 3, 4, 2, 2, 2

If I've counted correctly, 4 tokens appear in 7 out of 75 tests. By the way, I also tested whether taking damage affected the number of tokens, or ending the fight with full health affected the number of tokens. They did not appear to.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 03:05
#5
Krakob's picture
Krakob

I can send you data for this if I get any, if you'd like me to.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 04:14
#6
Dawnlife
Could be

When I ran FSC with a very skillful fren in rush mode, we always get 4 tokens.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 05:16
#7
Dead-Bard's picture
Dead-Bard
I didn't collect any data but

I didn't collect any data but from my personal experience there is a random chance which is boosted the fewer party members there are, I happen to stumble upon 4 tokens runs more often if I'm soloing or duoing than when I'm trio/fullpartying.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 11:52
#8
Skold-The-Drac's picture
Skold-The-Drac
ahr en jee

I'll tell you two things....
Floors played messes with token count.
Extra token is known to be cranked out on a roll.

Time does nil for ye. Save maybe the amount of rolls the token gods use to determine yer fate.

Fortune likes dice.... Easy way of adding drama.

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