Move both of your threads: one to the coliseum and one to the graveyard. This is the wrong forum.

I still think T2 died because forge essentially eliminated the huge bottleneck of 3* bored players and no one had time to try LD until T3. And the only way to get T2 back on a regular basis is a massive influx of players to the game as a whole.

Remember back when T2 was all the rage, and a T3 game was rare? Ah, good times...

You can't force players to abandon Tier 3.

Anyways, if you are t3, why to go to t2? the problem concerns the t2 players who don't have enough gamemates to play with.

T2 is for nubs...There, I've said it !!!
Click me, I dare you

^That is so wrong.
T2 lockdown uses more skill than T3. UVs hardly affect gameplay in T2. It takes like 6 Flourish hits to kill someone with trinkets. All in all T2 takes way more skill than T3 lockdown.

The reason T2 was always up was because SK was more opened up to the world, and there were more players. With the promos and lack of updates players started leaving and there were less new players. We've hit the point to where there are so little players that nobody wants the patience to get lucky and start some random T2 LD game. It's up to OOO to make SK more popular. The gun update was a step up.

King-Cerrin: thanks *nomnom*

Skills? Ha! Don't make my Ma Laugh...You can just turn on AT and use Hammer just to be OP, or better yet Kilowatt Pulsars

"AT"
"hammer"
"pulsars"

So Tier 3 then? I don't remember you being this way, Hellscream. Take one too many Sealed Swords to the head did you? As I recall, you were an avid T2er.

Because after you play more than 2 T1 games in a row, you get bored. T3 the TTK(Time to Kill) is too low, T1 it's way too high. It doesn't matter how much skill you have if it takes 20-odd Hot Edge hits to kill a trinketed triguard guardian. Everything is decided by health pool, and everyone has the exact same boring weapons and armor. Not to mention how badly abusable guardian shield and heal pads are.

T1 is a perfect example of why the common suggestion of "solve the gear balance problems in LD by giving everyone full Azure and Leviathan" is a terrible, terrible idea.

Obvious flamebait is so obvious it's just annoying. Stahp.

Ah, the good old days, when T2 is fun ! But then...The update came along so yeah...RIP T2 <3

I have pointed out several times that this game has pay to win features, I have also pointed out that trinkets ruin LD class balance.

Bringing up my "cobalt for everyone idea" in the context of T1 LD is a bit........ Well.... There are no cobalt sets that can be used in T1 LD since cobalt starts at 2 stars.

Having everyone in untrinketed standardized gear would balance LD. Might not be fun for those of you who play LD for damage but it would be balanced.

Hopefully SK will introduce more items that will allow for more variety in T1 LD (pierce and shadow weapons to counter triguard), hopefully with an update scaling the heal rate and guardian shield power per tier (less in T1 and more in T3 due to the numerous max damage sets) in addition to a mission that at least informs new players of LD.

I used to think Tier 3 discouraged diversity and thought in its playstyles, and that Tier 2 was more skill based. Turns out to be completely the other way around. Granted, there are many elements of luck involved in both Tiers that detract from skill and tactics, but in the end of the day, if I'm gonna have fun, I'd rather play Tier 3 and be rewarded for my strategies as a Recon than be punished in Tier 2 for even more effort. A bit of a tangent, but, Tier 2 before heart trinkets reminds me an awful lot about how Tier 3 is right now. Tier 2 right now reminds me about how Tier 1 always was and always will be; dead.

Also, Tier 2 died because the attitude of the community it held became even more unbearable than Tier 3. That is an accomplishment in itself.

You could just make one post and put
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between each thought

T2 has been dead for like... months(years?) now. Main reason people play T3 is because it's much more easy to do so and it's not an easy thing to move players who are fine with T3 to T2.

Now, people who say that T2 is more skill based because it takes 6/7 hits to kill a dusker with flourish well... they're wrong. That whole mechanic allows for a whole of a lot more tanking meaning that I could just rush onto a point with 3 guys there, combo them and walk out with more than half of my hp still there(the combo wouldn't kill them obviously). Point in that is that there is less risk meaning you don't have to be as careful if you want to play well. On the contrary however, more hits to kill an enemy means that you have to be quicker and have the ability to predict your opponent better to kill people fast.

So that technically balances out the skill issue ? Well not really. Players who play T3 get both effects mainly because they acquire both the benefits of T2 players and the benefits of T3. Getting quicker and the ability to predict comes naturally to you when you practice something for quite a while however being careful comes from not having as much health hence you are forced to conserve it.

tldr : t3 > t2 skill wise(that's not even factoring in how like 90% of T2 players AT). If you're going to speak otherwise tell me of a guy who has always played T2 and suddenly went T3 and dominated the game(there is many examples of people going to T2 from T3 and doing exactly that so...)

Who says I hate you <3 I deleted you cause you're being a Lil Beach spamming Polaris just to ruin LD...And Please, how can you not make T2 LD....All you need is 8 players. Shapt being so immature <3

Wait ? you're Master-Nano-Vali? That explains everything now! I remember Blueflood saying something about AT about that guy in a Video :O Wanna prove him wrong by recording ?

Btw, you're acting like you know me Lel :P I don't know who you are so yeah...

@Klipik

Then go find more people who feel the same way. Sitting around doing nothing won't help.

I've tried, my guild has tried, other people have tried, other guilds have tried, and the end result is there just aren't enough people as is. But T2 LD is different from T3, argue about which is better all you want but there will be people who like T2 and people who like T3. imo there should be some systems in place to bring more people to the Coliseum in general, but especially the lower LD tiers and BN. It'd be better for the health of the game overall. And I, and others who have the same interests as me, would get to play the gamemode we prefer.

Hell, stop. If all you're going to do is act like a dick and not be helpful with the topic, go do something productive. Draw a picture. Climb a tree. Pet a cat.

At least the others offered actual reasoning behind what they feel about it.

It's not about "find people and just start it."
Starting games with a guild is not reviving T2, and it's not what Klipik is trying to say.
Making a few games happen with the same group of people is not reviving T2.

The point of this thread is thatt there is interest in getting T2 to have enough activity to where it sustains itself, which honestly is a lot more trouble than it would be worth to most. People do want to save it/revive it, myself included, but as of now the timing for such a task seems off. There are better windows where it would work better.