Could be the wiki taking its time to show the right stuff as usual. To force the change to appear, compare edit history to view option A, and edit+preview the current page to see option B. We need opinions to move forward :)

We're working hard to not scatter images (a wiki wide project), as this looks messy, is hard to keep consistent, and messes with the format of the page for many browsers. It's one of the few things I don't like about wikipedia, but it's acceptable there because the topics are so diverse. On a game wiki, not so much. The purpose of the gallery is to lock information into a consistent, reliable format for entities that share similar visual information. This is very appreciated on Battle Sprite pages and many other areas of the wiki.

We've had a horrible time fixing many of these images, and the game masters even helped us and say they really like what we're doing with the animations. I don't want this part of the format to come under discussion, because it's established and it really works.

The combat information is still important and very obvious in its own section, it's just not near the top. This is just an aesthetic issue. Notes look weird interrupting the section flow, but not above combat. Most notes sections will be tiny, mentioning release and not much else. We're looking for options just regarding the note section's placement on the page, if there are any better thoughts out there.

This is simply not up for discussion. Many of us, including staff, worked on galleries for over a year, not just me. I am tired of you thinking this is all just me, I talk with users, see what they like, get verification from staff, and all the works, all while trying to stay within wiki standards in relation to game information. You even blamed me for the gunnerarmor/helmet templation, when edit history clearly shows who did the work. You are holding us back, while not actually helping the process yourself. I honestly don't know what you have against me, is it just because of the sheer number of edits I do, and that makes me a target? Or is it somehow personal? I rarely see you edit, and I find this extremely irritating. It's very easy to complain, and it's something you do often, but you don't actually help us get the work done for the mainspace. Yes, this is directed at you, Bopp. Targeting individuals is something I normally don't do. But you have crossed a line here, in my mind. I love listening to others, because we are all better for it, but over the years it's been so...difficult with you. And I am sorry if this causes upset. You should know these things, though.

Regarding the formats you mention, those are not wikis. They are forms of art and subject to company/group preferences. Regarding proximity of text, that is literally the entire reason for this one hiccup - I want the combat to be right above the gallery, without getting interrupted by the notes section. Which leads to: where should the notes section go? It can't go below the gallery (maybe it should? This isn't consistent with other wikis/pages on our wiki) It can't be too high up because it's misc information.

Because we are a gaming wiki, we have to bend certain rules (this is stated somehwere, I forget where). But I only bend them after talking with at least 2 other players for small things, and bring them to the forums for large things. I would talk with more if SK were more popular. But the messages I get from strangers in Haven are great. And yes, I do receive criticisms, one of these led to the DoR data we have everywhere.

Here's an example of the mess that galleries make go away, and make uploading easier to do assuming people know how to even make animations. If you don't have that mess, you have a ton of whitespace depending on the image size, which is very large to show the attack(s). We outline animation production in the style guide somewhat, and something I plan on making more clear in the future.

This is a call for editing help. We just want a format to refer to because a lot of these pages are very messed up. We can gripe about the details, fusing combat into gallery is a possibility, etc, down the road. What's important is updating this information and having information in the same areas across pages. I was just trying to reduce workload in the future before we start bulldozing - this is not meant to be a huge discussion. This information is horribly out of date, and needs to be fixed. Preferably consistently.

Okay, something to consider for the future. At the risk of derailing this thread, which was intended to be a help node for ppl confused about the acquisition template not working for them or something:

Simply fuse the combat section into the gallery, and keep notes above it (as they are with the rest of the pages on the wiki that have been consistently formatted). This would be most similar to the Battle Sprite pages, such as Drakon (Shadow).

We will focus on this after acquisition, while fixing up the current ToC issues, using Option B?

It seems this isn't a huge obstacle, it only took a moment. Behold: Option D.

For weapons that we don't have galleries for yet, just pretend "combat" is the gallery and format as such?

Can you explain why you don't like Option D? Yelling "KILL IT" doesn't really help us.

The problem with notes being below gallery is that... other well-formatted pages do this. The only thing below galleries is a sortable ever-expanding list, which is essentially a gallery anyway. This stemmed from a list format discussion quite some time ago.

Notes above galleries:

*Accessories (and costumes)
*NPCs (very recent format agreed upon by the few people who actively care/edit NPC pages)

These pages have limited content and so the ToC order is somewhat forced, but I'd like for players to be able to find the same type of information easily in the same relative spots, even if entities are completely different.

Notes below the gallery for these pages can just be an exception, then. I don't like it, but it seems to work best for everyone replying to the thread.

This is what it looks like: Option C

It's very good. But it is troublesome for reasons stated above. I suppose it's not a huge issue because the entities are just that different.

Now that we seem to have settled on the single issue regarding the Notes placement section with Option C (part 2 of OP), let's see who wants to volunteer for part 3, implementation.

This is a large project and will take a lot of time. Less time with more volunteers, but it will be tedious work, and it is likely you'll want to give up. That's fine, because it is volunteer work, but I'd suggest just "taking a breather" instead of dropping it altogether.

I think the following process should work. Practice first:

Pick a random non-trinket equipment page. It can be your favorite piece, doesn't matter. Refer to Part 3 of the OP for detailed instructions and links to useful template documentation. Edit the page to the best of your ability according to the format we've worked out. The most important part of this project is updating acquisition and making sure every equipment page has the same named ToC sections in the same order (pay attention to helmet/armor vs. shield vs. weapon, and again, do not include gallery unless there's content to complete the gallery, which there isn't, also finding all that news stuff is very tedious and would add to the workload - just don't do that right now). Many equipment pages are currently, and have been for an uncomfortable amount of time, out of date and several are poorly formatted. After you do this for the one page you picked, come back to the thread, post a link to what you did (in case it somehow gets buried in recent changes), and we will make sure everything is right. Then do the same thing again, after we've looked over your process.

Be prepared for more criticism than praise - this is a necessity, and makes our wiki better. Definitely not personal, so don't take it that way. That being said, I try to personally thank everyone who endeavors to help a wiki (you can see a list of individuals on my personal page, for example). The reward for this project is satisfaction that you are helping the community, as well as yourself.