5/18 Release Discussion
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 09:51
Release notes can be found here:
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/114557
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 10:01
#2
New logo
The Grey Havens logo looks almost too fancy to be in the game. I like it.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 10:04
#3
Always good to see an update.
Keep up the good work guys! *o*
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 10:09
#4
Nice job c:
Nice job c:
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 10:11
#5
- I might have to play around
- I might have to play around with the new resolutions. I have a tendency to watch youtube videos while playing Spiral Knights and that crams most of my screen. 1440x900 has been nice on me but hey, always willing to give something else a go!
That's the entire reason I have a second monitor... er... I mean... I use it for work!
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 11:31
#6
Maybe?
I understand the need of this update, everyone is complaining about lag and can't find the best option, also starting from rebuilding the fundamentals of how the game works makes it more enjoyable, and more possible to fix and build stuff as you go on. Changing the logo basically means that the transition of the servers is finally complete, also the mac thing helps the game expand to different user types, this all creates a good environment for adding more content ( which is what everyone is asking about ) And the possibility of reviving the game, we all annoyed the Gms with questions, but this update arises hopes.. can you please tell us something? anything?
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 10:33
#7
I'm With Ya!
You go Grey Havens!
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 10:36
#8
Yis
Very nice to see an update, got super hyped when I saw the message for game shutdown!
But I have the same question as Kaneken, does this mean updates of any kind are to be expected in the near or far or whatever future? I just got back into the game again but quickly realised that there isn't really much to do except from farming Radiants.
If I can expect any updates I surely will keep playing and farming. Oh and I'm just starting up the game the new logo looks sexy as hell and really fits to the game. Even though they aren't gamechanging updates, it's nice to see something new.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 10:43
#9
^^
What peter said about the logo is 100% true
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 10:51
#10
"- I might have to play around with the new resolutions. I have a tendency to watch youtube videos while playing Spiral Knights and that crams most of my screen. 1440x900 has been nice on me but hey, always willing to give something else a go!"
"That's the entire reason I have a second monitor... er... I mean... I use it for work!"
Opera Browser recently added an option that allows you to minimalize any video into standalone window that doesn't take any space except for actual video. You can play in windowed mode and have video running at one screen, without any resolution or double-screen shenanigans.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 11:05
#11
Sonic CD dlc
So I'm guessing dlc gear/items from the sonic cd dlc are going to go up to a billion crowns now that Grey havens is in charge am I correct?
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 10:59
#12
Improvements to controller detection.
Any chance we could get an elaboration on this? Wondering what improvements exactly.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 11:03
#13
oo
That's the entire reason I have a second monitor...
See I would probably think about a second monitor if my desk space wasn't so densely populated with cute things. I also have to have my designated food spot so I can achieve complete snob status.
I mean I normally play windowed anyways so it's not some huge change other than frantically trying to play a playlist backwards to catch up with videos while fending off the swarm ever ten minutes or so.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 11:31
#14
...
Nice to see that getting out from under Sega is already giving you time to improve the game
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 11:35
#15
I'm a Valkyrie
Even just this tiny little update makes me happy. :D Now I'm getting on just to see that shiny new logo. XD
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 11:36
#16
I normally lurk in the dark,
I normally lurk in the dark, looking upon the forums everyday for a glimpse of light, but now.....i see a light brighter than the sun, i see a better future for Spiral Knights now.....
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 12:11
#17
This is extremely comforting to see come about for two reasons-
A) This means the client is/has been compile-able and that there is no excuse for not fixing the mac purchases etc. It also means that progress has been made and that further progress can be made. More on that later in the Cronus section.
B) The game is being worked on in some manner that isn't just moving the servers. I was frightened that we were just going to be pulled back into the prize box abyss where nothing really happens ever. I'm still scared that this is our future but now I am slightly less scared. One permanent content update a year would be acceptable but zero per year forever would make me play less and less and eventually not at all.
As for "The transformation is complete!" I don't think they've said that. We have yet to see an update that effects the server, which is the important part as that houses the new levels and fun stuff that we want to play with.
Oh, and-
@Cronus
Don't forget to make 100% sure the mysterious developer knows about the Steam billing issue on mac. It effects you guys making money and I'd rather you not starve. I believe Petater has submitted the details at some point, including a fix.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 12:07
#18
So the thing on the top right
So the thing on the top right corner is completely intentional?
https://imgur.com/ra7TucA
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 12:11
#19
I'm pretty sure the image is broken, Boci. xD I imagine it'll be fixed pretty quick.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 12:12
#20
It's intentional because without it the screen looks kind of crooked, like if you just remove it flat out. It's supposed to be a clear image since I believe there was a OOO logo or something there.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 12:15
#21
Somewhat
So the thing on the top right corner is completely intentional?
Copying the link address leads us to a file name:
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/images/transparent_filler.png
Likely there's no picture created to be a transparent filler for the top to maintain formatting up top there. Seeing as it's supposed to be clear like on the home page, the link in question is probably supposed to link to:
http://www.spiralknights.com/images/transparent_filler.png
There's just no image stored in the forum side. Likely just an oversight.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 12:20
#22
Yeah, I've noticed that too,
Yeah, I've noticed that too, but thought it's just maybe a name they forgot to change.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 12:27
#23
- So the thing on the top
- So the thing on the top right corner is completely intentional?
No, that's just a broken image. It will get fixed as we're working on a few other lingering things. Please continue to point items like this out so we can be sure we're finding them.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 13:55
#24
Everything but the fix
You didn't fix mac fullscreen.
Edit: Since the lib you use is open source, I found https://github.com/LWJGL/lwjgl/issues/45#issuecomment-28148998 to help you figure out how to toggle it.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 12:42
#25
So...
With the game updated to reflect Spiral Knights' new ownership, will the in-game credits be updated, too, Cronus? Just asking.
On a different note, may we see a few new Blast Network maps added someday? It needs some new content added. Hope Grey Havens got some time to do it.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 12:48
#26
@OP/Cronus
Are there any plans for supporting DSR (Dynamic Super Resolution) within SK? Also, thanks for addressing and fixing up some of the older optimization issues within the game, it's appreciated on my behalf.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 13:15
#27
*Asthmatic breathing*
Guys I'm so excited for this games future now.
https://m.popkey.co/c3a80e/a0b90.gif
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 13:28
#28
I like it.
I like it. This will be reviewed in today's Wednesday Lockdown stream, so tune in at 5:30 EST if you want to discuss potential!
Also, something I'd like to ask Cronus and Hera specifically:
Would it ever be possible to have an interview on-stream with you guys with questions from the community in the future?
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 14:10
#29
Oh! By the way- if I pay you guys money via Steam Billing on PC, will you, Grey Havens, receive that money? I'm fairly certain that billing is set to give money to Grey Havens but wouldn't want to donate to the wrong overlord.
EDIT: Oh good you read my other comment. I apologize for whatever was wrong with it (probably calling out the.. "mysterious" poster?) and I'll try to not in the future. Just glad you're taking it into consideration and just wanted it to be seen, no intent on harm.
EDIT 2: OK someone else pointed out that I linked to a mod. I didn't even think about that part of the issue so my bad.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 14:15
#30
- Don't forget to make 100%
- Don't forget to make 100% sure the mysterious developer knows about the Steam billing issue on mac.
Do you have a handy link to the most current thread? I'd like to pass it along just in case and my search fu seems broken today.
- You didn't fix mac fullscreen.
I've passed this along.
- will the in-game credits be updated, too, Cronus?
It's possible that they will be updated at some point in the future.
- Are there any plans for supporting DSR (Dynamic Super Resolution) within SK?
I don't know. It might not be possible.
- By the way- if I pay you guys money via Steam Billing on PC, will you, Grey Havens, receive that money?
Yes. The same is true for any of our payment methods.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 14:17
#31
Billing on Mac
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 14:24
#32
Thanks for pulling that up.
Thanks for pulling that up. I've passed that along.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 14:26
#33
<3
Thanks
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 15:37
#34
question
What's the future of the Dev Deadzone shield? Since it's got the original logo.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 15:49
#35
I see the logo, I see the GH
I see the logo, I see the GH copyright on the bottom of this screen....you guys are doing something dope that's for sure, sweet stuff
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 17:15
#36
I'd just keep the old logo for nostalgia. After all these "new devs" are what was Three Rings before SEGA happened.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 17:16
#37
But... Someone just took the guild name Three Rings.
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 17:23
#38
A changelog... A changelog! We haven't had one of these in ages! Like, even when there are actually updates, there weren't changelogs.. Yes, I'm so happy!
(I actually honestly really do love changelogs)
Wed, 05/18/2016 - 19:50
#39
They should have just given them admin powers, not changed the guild name. Would have been way more fun except for the part where Cronus loses his job and the new "Three Rings" goes on a power fueled rampage. If they made me a GM I'd probably just put cooler stuff on the featured auctions every now and then, hiding my GM status as much as possible; i.e. use the ready room + guild hall + remove all my friends + choose a random unfindable name.
Thu, 05/19/2016 - 01:33
#40
In all honesty, I hope for Grey Havens to allow interns (who sign NDAs and non-competes) so we can help improve their code. I wouldn't be surprised if things require heavy rewrites to un-abstract some inefficiencies and to apply map specific optimizations (Optimize away collision checks & offthread player anim logic). I'd be down for it though.
Thu, 05/19/2016 - 04:11
#41
still too expensive
the company seems the same ( apart from the new logo ) all the prices at store ( energy ) are still absurdly high like before , dont be like sega that only interest was to " milk " clients ...
Thu, 05/19/2016 - 03:53
#42
dont even start with that
Market prices are set by players, we have to explain this like every two days
and if you mean monetary transactions, those are completely fine as is
Thu, 05/19/2016 - 04:11
#43
lol fanboy mutch
yeah i gess arround 40 euros to unbind an aura its fine as it is .... not to mention trinket costs armor and weapon costs etc..
Thu, 05/19/2016 - 04:20
#44
you dont get it
The reason gear is so expensive is because youre supposed to craft it yourself instead of paying to get everything
About accessories: a good amount of them cost as much or more than the recovery price, someone has to think "is this really worth it?" Before buying or else the market would be flooded with accessories
And no, I'm not a fanboy, I just know that other than fire crystals the prices in the supply depot are completely acceptable if you want to play the game as intended rather than buy your way into places you have no skill for
Thu, 05/19/2016 - 04:46
#45
Steam Achievements
Will achievements be fixed? Cronus?
Thu, 05/19/2016 - 07:26
#46
Prize wheel
I noticed that you changed prize wheel chromalisk to kleptolisk. What does it mean?
Thu, 05/19/2016 - 08:40
#47
@worst
Kleptolisks are more likely to steal things :v
Thu, 05/19/2016 - 11:09
#48
- Will achievements be fixed?
- Will achievements be fixed? Cronus?
Achievements that are tied to mechanics that no longer exist wont be obtainable nor will we change mechanics so that they are obtainable. While we can add achievements for other things in the future, we have two options for the unobtainable ones now:
- Remove these achievements altogether
- Remove them just from steam
Which would you all prefer? Note that by me asking, I'm not making any promises. I'm just looking for feedback that we can take into consideration.
Thu, 05/19/2016 - 11:17
#49
I'd say remove from achievements altogether personally. No sense in having them there if they can't be obtained anymore. As someone who did get all the SK achievements prior to the change to minerals, I'm fine with the unobtainable ones poofing out of existence.
Thu, 05/19/2016 - 11:20
#50
I'd say remove from steam only
Some people really like that they have trophies from the old system, I'd say just let them keep the achievements like OOO let people use their endgame gear after missions were introduced, its not harming anyone
Nice to see a few technical changes!
I might have to play around with the new resolutions. I have a tendency to watch youtube videos while playing Spiral Knights and that crams most of my screen. 1440x900 has been nice on me but hey, always willing to give something else a go!