I think this thread is meant more as a challenge, asking the dev to prove that this monster isn't brokenly strong.

He wants Nick to prove it's possible cause he mad bro.

I'm not sure the metric should be whether you can solo something, certainly not in T3. It's an optional danger room, after all.

What I'm not okay with is one or two enemies in a stratum being an order of magnitude more powerful than everything else, as if you were running T4, for no justifiable reason. With the devs' priorities the way they are, I'd be satisfied with a video proving that nick has fought an oiler on any tier since release.

I picture him halfway across the world from the rest of the dev team, spending investment money in a casino hotel. "Spiral what? You guys are still working on- uh, I mean yeah, of course I've been playing. Totally. Designing, bro! I'm the designer, right? I like the... you know, the little things. With the fire? Oilers, yeah! Oilers are cool bro, make more Oile- hey, watch your elbow! Guys, what's a speculum? I gotta go." *click*

Quicksilvers would be more of a ''challenge''. (It can't really be called that since you basically close your eyes and pray you don't die)

Oilers aren't -as- difficult because you can stop them, and damage them even if they're on fire. Quicksilvers? Once they're charged you can't stop them.

Oilers getting lit by status traps doesn't change arenas at all, it changes danger rooms.

I'd be very interested in seeing someone solo a T3 fire arena with oilers; there's currently a fire slime arena active in the JK gate. I think I'm better than most players (certainly better than a majority of PUG players I see) but I only managed the first "level" with liberal use of pills/freeze; "level" two wiped me and I can't someone doing the third.

The primary problem with oilers is that once they light on fire, their difficulty drastically increases and you can never put them out. They would be manageable if frost on the ground put out all fires in the area, but unfortunately this isn't the case.

Suppose Oilers were changed so that once on fire, they would burn up if not killed within a certain amount of time. At the same time, prevent them from being shield bumped. They're sticky, after all. If you let them burn up, you get no loot.

Of course Danger Rooms should be soloable. And the enemies in them shouldn't require a certain type of weapon to beat, either.

Otherwise you're just restricting player choices and making certain content useless. I avoid all Danger Rooms in any fire zone for this reason, and Frost is a better element to have than Fire or Shock because of the Quicksilver and Oil jellies being ridiculously harder than the Frost ones when hit with the wrong type (all Frost on Frost does is heal them if they get frozen)

Quicksilvers are by far worse than Oilers. At least you can block while you're on fire. If there are a few Quicksilvers in close proximity of you (ex: a Danger Room), and you get shocked, and you will, by one hitting you, it's already over. The "twitch" caused by the shock stops you from shielding while Quicksilvers are going literally everywhere. You don't have any chance in tier three, lol. The self-induce shock combined with the immunity to damage and healing makes them impossible.

Don't get me wrong though, Oilers hand your anus to you as well. Especially with the FPS drop due to the large amounts of onscreen fire. But they don't have anything on Quicksilvers.

I think the OP is on to something here. I'd love to see a GM or DEV solo, or party for that matter, a Quicksilver and/or Oiler room.

I've had oilers and quicksilvers at the same time on T3 once that was fun, all that was missing was some greavers and it would of been a party!

For me, quicksilvers are quite easy. In teir one and 2, I can 1hitKO them with my Troika (now a Kamarin) really quickly. I've only fought an electrified quicksilver once or twice. I haven't fought any oiler before though, I think. Judging by what u people are saying, I hope they are as easy for me to kill as the quicksilvers

Main problem for everyone here is T3... not T1/2

I find T3 quicksilver danger rooms insanely easy. Just walk around with shield up until they kill 80% of the stuff, they kill eachother more than they heal eachother. From then on you just pick them out 1 by 1 and repeat for each spawn. I clear these danger rooms quicker and more effortlessly than gremlin with mender rooms.

T3 Oiler danger rooms are also very easy if you got a shivermist and place one before each wave spawns and then mostly use thaw damage to do the killing, but this room is very difficult without a shivermist or if you mess up and misplace a bomb for whatever reason. Once you die once its very hard to find the free time to charge up for another bomb before getting interrupted (depending on how many oilers are leftover once you died of course)

This update calls for some dogfooding. I was recently destroyed by Quicksilvers, and I can see the same happening with Oilers.

I don't consider myself a good Spiral Knights player in the slightest, but it seems that I'm not the only one who can't handle this.
If this can at all be done, without resurrections, post a video. Now. Or I shall vote for a nerf.

In my humble opinion, I believe that if the slimes can be boosted by stage traps. All enemies should be affected by stage traps. Good or bad.

Fair's fair. Let those hordes of goblins, zombies, demons and robots to be toasted, shocked, poisoned, frozen and spiked when they walk into a hazard zone along with their slimey pets. That's the least it could happen, right?

Sure, most enemies area already immune to the stage's traps (Fire enemies cant really burn), but most isn't all. The issue is that we have no way from stopping a slime into walking into a trap, or even be Coded to walk into a trap to boost itself. More chaos to keep track of, and solely against us.

Fair's fair. I want all enemies to be vulnerable to all traps.

Har har har.

> It is definitely possible, I solo Arena's with oilers all the time in T3. Just haven't found that many danger rooms to try out.

D19 Dark Lion Gate should have a chance for one.

To be fair, tier 3 danger rooms are intentionally balanced around 3-4 player groups. Anytime they can be soloed is a matter of abnormally high player skill, not a benchmark as this thread seems to suggest. The proper "dogfooding" would be a staff video featuring 3-4 staff in full 5* gear beating an oiler danger room without using energy to revive.

@ouros next thing we'll be saying the game is balanced around reviving at least twice per level. Come on.. there is already a mechanic in place that balances the game for solo and group play. If that system isn't working correctly then it needs to be adjusted or the danger rooms need to be redesigned (i.e. rolled back).

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Maybe to be fair to single players - cut down on the number of spawns? And then would have to decrease the rewards as well. Dunno how that would be possible or how that would work if you had people joining and leaving the group.

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...the flaming oil slicks beneath them would have rekindled them after a freeze which would have healed them... over and over again.

Did fire arena yesterday, it's 10x easier then shock.