The only way to make energy cheaper is to flood the market with cheap energy. Spend large amounts of cash on massive amounts of energy and then sell it over the weeks for 2500cr.

It's a player driven economy. The only way to effect it is through the supply or the demand and I very much doubt you'll be able to reach enough players to alter the demand, so the only thing you can do is alter the supply -> by using your own money to crash the ingame energy market. OOO will love you for spending large amounts of money and players will love you for the cheap energy... some players (the people selling energy) may hate you...

That's about the extent of the influence you'll be able to exert.

CE was 6800-7000 before the game was advertised on steam. At those prices players barely broke even doing a full T2 run and players quit because of it. 5k still allows you to make a profit from doing T2.

If you think 5k is too expensive then do T3 runs; you'll clear at least 10k (sometimes up to 25k).

There have been mass amount of threads talking about energy before, so I'm pretty sure some people would get angry just by looking at this thread. All those energy threads in the past have become useless junks wasting away cyber space because people kept giving idiotic suggestions.

The major mistake people with "suggestions" make is they think the game developer will help us bring down the CE price buy adding crown sink mechanic in the game. The fact is, the developers do not want to bring the CE price down. The real solution can only come from the community.

The second mistake people with "suggestions" make is what you just did. We can not ignore the fact that most players are impatient scums.

So the first step to my solution is that we need to gather around a large group of players of spiral knights. This will take maybe days, weeks, or maybe months. But once we got enough man power, we can finally start tackle the situation.

After seeing how the inflow of steam players brought the CE price from 7k to 3k in days, I've realized that as long as more people are joining the game, more people will be buying CE with real cash, and more people will be selling CE. And because most of us are impatient scums, people will be selling CE cheaper and cheaper. Therefore, one idea popped into my head, we should mass advertise this game everywhere and bring in more players. We could make a youtube channel about spiral knights and make our community to all subscribe to it. once we made it one of the most popular youtube page on youtube, it will have a similar effect like steam. We could also bring up spiral knights in any websites, asking people if they've played spiral knights in some random forums will definitely do the trick.

I also got other ideas like stopping mass UV crafting, but first thing we should be doing now is to gather around a group of players, without it, we can't do anything.

Again? Again?
How many total threads are there now concerning lowering CE costs?
I personally think keeping CE between 5-7k is good. Once you reach tier 2
you can make 5-7k in 1-2 runs. Part of me wants to say "sure lets lower
the price of CE" but if CE was cheaper, I would be spending more time on
this game then I should. I love this game but I also love going outside.
It's just my opinion. Some of you will love it some of you will hate it (most
of you probably won't care).

IGN The one and only, Guardianknight.

Lol Njthug.
How about somebody make a "lets
keep CE prices the same topic"

If a new player gets on and sees CE prices are incredibly
high, they might not want to continue playing. This is also
do to the fact that most new player never take the time to
read the wiki and forums.

I am Glad you liked my post. But I won't be the one collecting the people. There have been some threads on this forum gathering people to lower energy, if you type in the search box "community energy", you should find some of those threads. But to be honest, for us to gather enough people, we would take months. Because most players of this game are either stupid or just don't care.

I've read a lot of threads here about CE. I have to stand on both sides about why CE should or shouldn't go down in price. Again, this is based on the simple principle of supply and demand.

Lower CE price for new players: yes, i completely agree in this matter. It was a big turn off that I could only play about an hour a day when i first started. Though the CE market was 'lower' when i first started, I watched it steadilly increase. The fact that this game is so based on the energy required, you would imagine that CE would be sold relatively cheap.

Oh wait, fortunately it is. For only $2.45, you can get 750 ce. In my opinion, this is really cheap. A newbie whos intent to only make a bit of armor and use it for runs can use this set of ce quite well.

Now... let's say that free players would like the price of 100 ce to lower, the people who get hurt from this are those who supply CE. Aside from buying it with real money, there is no other way to obtain ce. In other words, your begging the suppliers, pay-users, to lower the price. However, those who pay money most likely want to maximize their dollar spent. They most likely won't be handing out something they got without something decent in return. That's like waiting for a random guy next to you to buy a pack of gum and you asking for one piece for free, and a line of people behind you waiting for free piece as well.

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In regards to Ren's idea, i somewhat agree with it. If you can buy mist tanks for crowns, it would lower the dependency on crystal energy and lower the ce prices in the short time. But if I look further in the future, i interpret it as follows:

Lower Dependency -> Lower Demand -> Lower Price -> ... { over time } ... -> Lower Supply -> Large increase in Price due to Increase of Demand of non-new players

But I can be completely wrong, especially since 000 can most likely introduce some sort of future which would promote ce purchasing.

I also stand on both sides in this matter.

It's clear that this whole game stands and falls on energy supplies. And as such, I too would expect price of this main power to be a bit lower.
Yes, people can do the T3 runs and get loads of Crowns... oh, wait. This exclude the lower 'level' players and those who started recently.
From newbie's point of view I have to say: 5K Crowns is A LOT.

But on the other hand, I'm pretty satisfied with how things work here.
I love that no one forces me to spend a single cent on this game (unlike other games that claims to be "free to play", but where you actually HAVE TO pay to gain access to all features).
I can have everything a paying player have! I can do all the dungeons that paying player can! I can craft my own stuff exactly as a paying player can!
And yay, I don't have to wait for my energy to refil once I'm higher level - I can buy it with the game currency!

This makes things much more bearable.

But then again - I'm just a human, and a greedy one... of course I would love lower prices ;D

Back in my day we had to collect twenty-two thousand crowns for a single unit of one hundred crystal energy!

CE is still around 5k, and new players are having such a hard time.

If CE costed 3 to 4k, things would be much better. There's no need to set CE at 5k per unit. You can sell materials from a t2 run and earn a good amount of money, I've earned around 1k crowns and more from materials after doing dungeon runs.

Some of you say that Three Rings will lose money if CE prices go down, or if an NPC sells mist tanks. But here's the truth: 5k per 100 CE makes the game unplayable for newbies. And if new players don't come into the game, Three Rings loses money. Wanna know why? If the game gets more and more players, there's a higher chance of players buying CE with real money. Not to mention the fact that the game will get boring and eventually a lot of us who can actually make money will leave.

I can make money and get by, but I really feel bad for the newbies. Come on guys. Start lowering CE prices for our future generations.

Seriously newbies can deal easily. You pretty much have 300 energy to spend on your first day if you play right. Secondly I highly doubt newbies who didn't purchase either up to 5 dollars in energy or a STARTER pack would care about CE prices at all by the time they reach tier 2 and start making bigger money. The price is seeming to stay constant at 5k which is perfect as its not outrageously high or low. This is all ignoring the fact that your reasoning has a serious flaw in it.

Yeah the whole new free players can't progress is bull. You can get all 2 star gear in the first week. Just wait a day for your mist to fill go make 4k and buy it off someone. Then you can go do Jelly King runs as easy as it is. Exactly what I did. If your going to say you just can't wait then you can buy some energy with a credit card.

make a brand new account and start off like a noob, and tell me how much fun it is, i had 4 of my friends quit cause they only can play for like an hpur and thats it, the market is too high for noobies right now its hard for them to craft for themselves go on t1 runs and continue playing, they have to choose what they do each day, and thats boring, i was lucky and bought CE for 3k and was able to make good t1 runs followed by a couple of items and another solid run, now even if i had 2 solid runs thats barely enough for 5k, its so hard to start out in this game

im saying make it 4500 most for CE, cause thats possible after a good t1 run(very hard) but possible

remember noobs dont have gear, they cant atk, defend or survive as well as someone with even 2 star gear

Actually, that idea with "lower the elevator energy in T1 a bit" was pretty good.
Or even better - lower the elevator energy a bit for first two days.

This way, newbies get opportunity to earn some crowns and maybe get some better armor, and players won't abuse the cheaper elevator to farm crowns/mats.
Problem solved and no one can say it would ruin either OOO's or game economy.

dont be nub get a decent guild and only have one person do 1st strat of tier on best gate every1 joins his party do solo runs, just do this with every1 ull save up a bunch of energy(something called lifts)

its very stable for more than a week now...

Price of energy is going up again in the Game Market, if anyone of you noticed... Hope it won't get too high.

Everyone and their mom should quit when it hits 10k. You know it's happening...

The peePz out there with lots of CE trade it in for crowns so they can get rich too! Buy an ultimate game card and use it on this and you will see what I mean. I said the same things as you but now, CE is what will get VERY RICH!

I will play no matter what the CE price is.