Spiral Knights - What have I to do now?? "new" shivermist before pacth /// are useful the new guns?

What have I to do now?? "new" shivermist before pacth /// are useful the new guns?

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Sat, 07/09/2011 - 08:27

Nox

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Hi guys, I have a question for all of you,

Up to today I run with my shivermist freezing mobs and slahing them brom back with GRAN FAUST charge attack, i spend alot of time and money to buy a MAXIUM cuse resist. demo helm and upgrate it to VOLCANIC DEMO (+ UV Maxium curse resist)
and a very high curse resit armor (and searching for an armor with maxium curse tooo...)

NOW SOME GUY ¬¬ CUT my shiever's area of effect, and time duration ..... now I cant have time to do a GRAN FAUST CHARGUED .... and my UV curse set is uselesss ....

And, wen Im thinking to put all in to the garbage, I se these prety new guns ...

"oh, and electric bomb," "oh, new pistols, time ago I be gunner, I can use my old 4**** set of armor!! "
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but... it seems to these pretty new guns are not pretty at all....

Ash of agni is better than these new electric bomb... and the mobs dont be stuck by the electric spams

the pulsar is not working , and bugged, its no difference in low and large range

and the catalitzer is slowest than alchemer series guns....

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What do you do??? make a new set for these new guns? can it work? forguive bombs? return to pistols? are great thes new pistols?

Sat, 07/09/2011 - 08:43

Tenkii

get better?

That's funny, I can use my Gran Faust's charge attack just fine and I don't even use bombs. I just don't use it on easy monsters that you don't NEED to use it on - just mobs that I have to play carefully against. Shivermist was judged to be overpowered, and it was balanced down to be something less devastating. In case you haven't noticed, the other 5* haze bombs were changed too.

...Get better at playing?

Sat, 07/09/2011 - 09:05

Hoogo

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Yeahhh.....

"That's funny, I can use my Gran Faust's charge attack just fine and I don't even use bombs. I just don't use it on easy monsters that you don't NEED to use it on - just mobs that I have to play carefully against. Shivermist was judged to be overpowered, and it was balanced down to be something less devastating. In case you haven't noticed, the other 5* haze bombs were changed too.

...Get better at playing?"

This.

If you cant use its charge versus moving enemies (let alone frozen ones >.>), you have alot of work to do my friend.

Sat, 07/09/2011 - 10:12

aeolianmode

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Is it just me or does shiv +

Is it just me or does shiv + gf charge attack seem like a really weird primary attack strategy?

Sat, 07/09/2011 - 10:58

Nox

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yes, yes, at the fact you can

yes, yes, at the fact you can (sometimes) use gran faust chargued, but ..

I ONLY USE chargued, because its fun for me see flyng enemys...

Sorry, I say that I cant hit a moving target? I think no

Gran faust have more longer time of chargue than faust, for that, I use shievermist (and allow my teammates to use her chargued too, every body happy) , and a few days ago, I can hit twince chargues to an enemy with only 1 shiever (the enemy frozes, I hit, break ice, the enemy re-frozes and i hit again) with 1 shiever, shiever only purpose is for ground control, now its useless for me, now I have a free space.

I can go without shiever, like any other boring player in the game... and can I buy a vog cub set... and do the same as all the people, but its no fun for me...

NOW please, can you respond my cuestion? do you see useful the new guns? do you have one?? or planing to adquire one? or you just oly adquire one if any other players do?

Sat, 07/09/2011 - 11:14

BiggestLoser

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Zelda

dun wory, if u got anti curse, just get regular faust

if its just for the curse, itll be much faster, much easier to resist for ur gear and a cheap alternative

if u want the projectile, get DA

and why the freeze..o.O?

if u wana see flying enemies get some big angry bomb and since its slow..just freeze em for ur big angry bomb^^...Lol.

i actually might even try that for fun o.o..!

Sat, 07/09/2011 - 11:22

Tenkii

If you really want to make

If you really want to make teammates happy with charge attacks, a graviton might be more fun for you since it'll put all the enemies together.
Hitting two GF charge attacks with a single shivermist ?! That's overkill.

I've partied with bombers and they can still freeze-lock enemies. The only thing is that the bombers MUST focus on bombing if they want to do that. I think that's fair.

Also, your ideal of "its fun for me to see flying enemys" is kind of contradicting shivermist because if it freezes the enemies, it would cancel the knockback and make the flying sword part of the charge attack only hit like, 1-2 times (which is a pure waste of its damage and curse chance!).

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Also, I just made a Biohazard (5* poison catalyzer), so I can talk about it.

It was really painful to learn how to use it, but I think I've figured it out lol. The catalyzer line is basically sticky remote mines :D
I'll probably just make another thread about it since it's basically a frequently asked question lol.

Sat, 07/09/2011 - 11:29

SlyJohnny

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*raises hand* So why do I get

*raises hand*

So why do I get banned for flaming these pointless douchebags, again?

Edit: Seriously, GM's. Wouldn't it would be great if we just killed everyone that posted a Shivermist nerf or energy price thread?

Sat, 07/09/2011 - 11:56

Nox

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Very thanks Tenlki, and about

Very thanks Tenlki,

and about gran faust and faust,

wen i have a faust Im make myself curseproof, then I just like have all to 5**** and leveled up to GRAN FAUST, yes, i fail.

and the second charged atack from faust to a re-frozen enemy makes then fly (if dont die), nitronome or similar is very fun, yes, but you cant see nothing "blue screen"

I like to know what weapons do you use whit your biohazard, can you tell to us? please.

I try graviton, and.. i disapiont with it, it makes nemys put together, and ... send it to all coorners of the room ... maybe a combo of graviton and shiever...

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If you make a thread of your biohazard, tell to me, I like to read ;)

Sat, 07/09/2011 - 12:38

Eeks

Shivermist+Faust Now you can

Shivermist+Faust
Now you can make them fly on the first charge, freeze again and make them fly some more!

After having watch the differences in duration between the old and new shivermists I find it highly suspect that it was possible to charge GF, hit an enemy, and have them refrozen in the same shivermist. The timing must've been extremely tight and if you could pull that off then you should be able to GF charge un-shived enemies. I'll take your word for it though since I've never used such a bizarre weapon combination.

If it was possible with high frequency of success, that's just more proof that the old shivermist was unbalanced.

Sat, 07/09/2011 - 16:21

#10

Velcro

"I try graviton, and.. i

"I try graviton, and.. i disapiont with it, it makes nemys put together, and ... send it to all coorners of the room ... maybe a combo of graviton and shiever..."

To this I direct you to my topic:

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/13755

I'll be adding a new video soon which will have far less scenes of spawn busting and a larger variety of enemies to show you how best to use it.

Though I admit that you may not be able to charge the GF in time for the Graviton, but still, if you gather enough enemies in the Graviton then it won't fling them.

Sun, 07/10/2011 - 15:22

#11

Nox

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thanks to eek, NOW is not

thanks to eek5, for the videos NOW is not possible to hit twince the same monster with 2 chargued attacks of GF (no time for re-frozen) WITH ONLY ONE SHIEVER

"I find it highly suspect that it was possible to charge GF, hit an enemy, and have them refrozen in the same shivermist."
and, hit again with another chargued?

.... YES, its posible, that the old shiever its unbalanced... Im not talking about these, but I do the best that I can do whith the weapons the GAME give me... I dont use any bug, or exploit... only a well timed technique

but, its no problem, i dont use shiever, I can hit directly

and .. nice video about "the old and new shivermist" do you have videos of all weapons?? fot the posiblility of a changue tomorrow? O.O

plas plas plas plas

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geminis, thanks, i read your post about graviton, but it sems to me low-area bomb maybe you can combo it whith the chargued atack of a teammate I doubt you can use it solo

... Now, I rememver a run whith another bomber, I shiever, and he graviton/nitronome, I remember a bizarre bad time combination with enemys flying arround and stucking on my bombs, very fun and un-useful ... XD

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Today I compared pulsar and catalyzer, I prefer pulsar, these "explosion ammo", and yo can upgrade it to POLARIS with elemental damage ... elemental ... maybe it can work well in vanaduke runs, i have a silversix... Im thinking not to go for argent and make me a POLARIS

what do yu think about it?

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