So we, Russian players, who began to play Spiral Knights after it were connected to Steam, would like to have our own haven like German, French and Spain players. We ask you to add into the game 1(one) or 2(two) Russian Havens(Servers).
Russian Haven
Sure agree It would be great I hope it will happen soon
Русский серв даешь!
Good idea bro. Agreed.
yup its will be awesome! & its pretty simple to do i think )
It is true, we really need in the Russian haven.
In addition, the Russian language (at least in the chat) is also very necessary, because our country - the largest in the world, and we can not easily communicate in English transliteration - it is impeding the gameplay! (And often drives away newcomers)
Yeah, ppl say that there was russian Haven when the game started to work but dev's removed it because there were not so many russian players and the heaven was almost empty. And now many russian ppl began to play this game and they need an in-game place where they can meet, lol.
Please, make this place(Russian Haven) :3
We too play this game.
Please, make Russian Haven.
Hello everyone.
I do not live in Russia, but part of the problem is that Three Rings does not have a GM that speaks Russian. For every set of Havens, they want to have a GM that speaks that language.
Also, please note that this is the Technical Support forums, this thread might attract more attention in the Suggestions part of the forums.
This is technical problem, Russian Haven wouldn't be innovation, this is old known part of game that is to be added to game :P
i think that it would be awesome because not EVERYONE speaks english
and about the servers being empty: most french/german/whatever servers are empty too but they're still there
Russia is nearest country then all servers! So please do it!
It will be useful not only for Russian, but also for all CIS (ex-soviet) countries. Russian-speaking community is one of the biggest in Spiral Knights, so we need 2-3 Havens (maybe more).We also need Cyrillic script. If you care of players, please do it ;) Thanks!
Please make 2-3 havens for russian and ukraine. And maybe Russian translate. We hope for this.
Tumist
We need only one Haven. Russian. Ukrainian Haven will be russian-speaking too, you don't need it.
I support this idea. For Russian Knights! For Mother Russia!
"This is technical problem, Russian Haven wouldn't be innovation, this is old known part of game that is to be added to game :P"
-VEctor361
He's got it right. listen to him
Because there's no real russian translation yet, for now I'd suggest creating the dummy GUI language option for the client: like russian[en] (just copies of the english client text. Or do many of you prefer german/other language GUI?)... that way...:
- I guess there'd sort of automatically be a russian haven?
- New players would start out there and could easily find help.
- That "group with same language only" option would work.
We could really use some more players in our timezones (and opponents :D play more lockdown, Russia!) so I think it'd be great if someone could help Russian players that don't happen to speak english/german/whatever fluently, too, get an easier & less demotivating start. Without a russian haven, many might quit just because it takes them too long to find someone they can talk to.
I support this, we need Russian haven and Cyrillic support for the chat.
But then every language will want its own Haven. Canadians will need 2 havens, French Canadian obviously needing its own, separate Spanish and Mexican, North Korea, South Korea, Australian, New Zeland, Swedish, North Ireland, South Ireland, Wales, British, Scottish, 12 african languages I can't pronounce correctly, at least 3 German, 5 Russian, 4 different Chinese, and another 8 US dialects, and at least 1 Gelgamek because they complain about everything.
"But then every language will want its own Haven. Canadians will need 2 havens, French Canadian obviously needing its own, separate Spanish and Mexican, North Korea, South Korea, Australian, New Zeland, Swedish, North Ireland, South Ireland, Wales, British, Scottish, 12 african languages I can't pronounce correctly, at least 3 German, 5 Russian, 4 different Chinese, and another 8 US dialects, and at least 1 Gelgamek because they complain about everything."
And why not? If you're going to cater to a world-wide audience, shouldn't you accommodate your foreign players?
Perhaps when joining we should have an option to tick a box of languages we know. Then perhaps the game can automatically try to group players based on language?
Congratulations to Russian-speaking community with a small victory! :)
But the encoding is still having problems. Java applications can display russian letters, if you specify the encoding when compiling the application. Developers spiral knights did not consider it as German, Spanish, French, English letters do not need to be encoded.
Therefore we can not write to the chat in Russian language.
I'm not russian and I dont speak russian. Regardless, i see no reason why SK shouldn't support other languages.
+1, i support.
@Ufana: I don't think you need the GUI language (dummy) stuff, since I am pretty sure you can use the Instance switch dialog to join Havens of languages different from the one you have set up in the GUI. Just sayan.
... but actually I don't like this whole idea, because I think people of all languages should mix up a lot, instead of separating from each other just because of different languages or whatever. I don't care if you write Russian stuff in an English Haven. I can't read or understand it, but maybe you can read and understand what I talk about in another language and reply in this language. Ideally people should socialize wherever possible, so one day there will only be one culture and there will be much less reasons for distrust or war between humans.
"... but actually I don't like this whole idea, because I think people of all languages should mix up a lot, instead of separating from each other just because of different languages or whatever. I don't care if you write Russian stuff in an English Haven. I can't read or understand it, but maybe you can read and understand what I talk about in another language and reply in this language. Ideally people should socialize wherever possible, so one day there will only be one culture and there will be much less reasons for distrust or war between humans."
While this MAY be ideal, it's pretty alienating to have to wade through a sea of people you can not understand just to find one or two that can speak your language. This would also make team work harder.
You don't just learn a language just by seeing people type it back and forth a lot. While immersion can help, it won't miraculously bestow another language onto you.
@Desouler: "I can't read or understand it, but maybe you can read and understand what I talk about in another language and reply in this language."
Why don't you learn our language? Why do we need to know your language, but you our not? Maybe you learn our language and reply in our language? Why not? We are the same players as you...but the conditions are different.
Dragaroth, Russian Haven existed only three hours.
Maybe all russian players will play in one haven, as example with no. 10? As a protest.
Может все русские игроки будут играть на сервере с какой-то определенной цифрой? на 10 например? Устроим этакий протест.
"Dragaroth, Russian Haven existed only three hours."
Wow, really? That's a shame :c
+1, im not russian but i see lots of russian being typed in havens and there seem to be a good amount of russian players.
I count at least twice where conversation has absolutely dropped, and the thread died and was brought back by one of you necromancers.
the idea has been, i believe, thoroughly discussed, the first post literally states what it is, there is no real way in my opinion to build onto it any more...
if the mods saw it, alright, if not oh no. I'm sure that later in development there will be centralized servers anyhow, so lets just let this thread go peacefully?
For ease of communication and development of the game, I think you need to create Russian Haven.
I'm pretty sure there is a Russian Haven...
And as to the idea of creating a haven for every language, that would be impossible. There needs to be a GM that speaks every language being commonly used in the game, and to have a GM for every language would be financially impossible. So, my suggestion is to find the top 10 most spoken languages in the world (that does not mean natively spoken, but how many people can get by in it) and create havens for those.
The more languages the more people can play!
Right now russians probably feel left out or they have to use their second language if they have one.
Really need Russian haven and do not necessarily translate, only need russian chat and full haven function from other servers.
agreed, we want it! SK 4ever!