Spiral Knights - Yet another biased game

Yet another biased game

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Mon, 09/19/2011 - 10:21

#51

Thoranhippo

@Crawdunt its that kind of

@Crawdunt its that kind of unproductive thinking that drags a game downward and not upward. As far as I'm concerned part of the content of most thing you buy/use is triggered by consumers' demands. Applies to games as well, as unbelievable as it may seem to you. Last example to date, in Spiral Knights: nick's thread about how would we, players, like the new PvP mode to be like. As for how "easily" I sprout the word troll, as you seem to be saying, I invite you to read the comments that triggered my reaction. Sorry to tell you that if a post isn't meant to answer to the leading lines of my thread but only to drop some stupid stereotyped hence extremely predictable comment such as "live in America instead" or "guess what, somebody is complaining about lag like every once in a month" its certainly not with the slightest good intention, it'd rather be pure willing of challenging the OP for the sake of..trolling? Sounds like a good definition of trolling to me. Just look at the 3 poor guys I've kindly thanked for their contribution and asked to leave making a force comeback with no better answer than "troll!". Yah, good job pals, maybe you should have thought twice clicking the "save" button, you certainly knew what would happen next, judging on the stupidity of your first comments. Then again, what would be trolls if they couldn't create struggles?
Its just insane some persons here are so unsensitive to some other players willing to express their concern allow themself such comments, isn't it?

@jeburk yeah this is internet..can't figure exactly what's wrong, where. Its good to have opinions from others about it, it helps figuring out where the problem(s) most probably seems to be. Thanks, its always rejoycing to see one more concerned player among a small nest of "rude people", to not-say the T word they hate so much to be faced with.

Mon, 09/19/2011 - 10:28

#52

Evilduck

I think it's a shame the OP

I think it's a shame the OP is coming across as a bit of a dick because I do sort of agree with him; OOO advertised to people outside of the states. They made the game easily accessible for those who speak German, French and Spanish, including the hiring of a GM to speak each of these languages, and the players outside of the states are paying customers just like the Americans.

I also agree with those people saying they may not be able to afford servers elsewhere.

So basically I think those of us who suffer with bad ping have a right to complain, but also need to be patient. OOO is a small company

Mon, 09/19/2011 - 10:42

#53

Brychan

As much as he may moan, and

As much as he may moan, and the people that dont lag, dont care, there is technically a completely vaild point here.

And if you are not in the US (or close), enjoyed playing the game and wanted to be on the same playing field, you would understand.

I also find it interesting that people seem to know the financial status of OOO (Sega) and can say whether it is within their budget or not - picking up random stats only gives you a rough guess at what is going on. Only an official response would really settle it - I am sure they would love everyone that plays the game to have the best experience possible.

again

Myself, I am in the uk, and I notice the lag because I play all sorts of competitive games online and have done since 98 - the game is bearable to play for me in certain roles where I can be more tactical then reactionary. I can only guess the ping I get, and it will certainly be larger than someone closer.

So I would personally love to see an EU based server, I'll keep my fingers crossed and drop the $$ where I can to support a game I enjoy playing.

Mon, 09/19/2011 - 10:45

#54

Tgyoshi

Be happy they even allow you

Be happy they even allow you to play SK. Often such games only allow American people to join.

Mon, 09/19/2011 - 10:50

#55

Ztype

I experience the same thing.

I experience the same thing. Its sooooooooooo annoying!!! But it might be because I have got a bad connection. And it does not affect other ppl, so im sure its my connection to the internet exchange.

Mon, 09/19/2011 - 21:58

#56

Psychorazer

I live down in NZ with a better than average computer. I experience a little delay with the action commands, but it's bearable. Even though I can't respond fast enough to combat somethings, like those skeleton thingies or something or other, I just have to adjust my combat style.

Take all issues into consideration. Your player will be some distance behind where you can see he is. Run close to your opponent, then whack him. Firing a gun at someone, take auto-aim off, and fire a little ahead of them. Charge hit enemies (if your weapon has knockback) to avoid getting hit by them. Try and compensate for the delay caused by...whatever.

Really, this can work, unless your lag is soooo bad that people seem to teleport or they are really 5cm (screen scale) away from where you actually see they are. Or some other extremist issue I can't think of.

Really, IMO, saying this game is biased to Americans is just as bad as saying that Asians will dominate the Academic world. There are almost always exceptions to stereotypes on anything, so generalised statements are not recommended. People may get heavily offended on your assumptions. (eg, wtf my comp sux and my internet connection is even worse. y u complain about me?! etcetc...)

Have a nice day! :D

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 07:33

#57

Shidare

weren't you one of those

weren't you one of those crybabies who got in a twist over AFKers on blast network? it figures that you'd find something to complain about when they make a pvp mode that's actually fun. i live very far away from the terrible, terrible servers, and i do just fine at lockdown. the lag here is much more bearable than in the rest of the game, and when i lose it's because i mess up. i don't mess up very often.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:06

#58

Thoranhippo

@obvob Ya to answer your question, I'm one of the "crybabies" who accused AFK-ers in Blast Network to be exploiting the game. So what? Try and fit the subject instead of trying to beat the 10 previous trolls in the "annoying, useless, insulting comments" contest alright? Again I'm amazed how persisting and numerous troublemakers like you are (and don't deny please :). Like I said also, if you had took the care of reading you'd have seen me saying lag isn't the same experience for everyone. Some might find it worst than others, depending on tons of factors you could probably also read from the previous posts in this thread.
Also to valkyrie, of course since I know this problem for long I've partly adapted myself to it...but I'd rather see a problem solved or at least considered, rather than having to play with it all along; not mentionning latency is variating, so its not always easy to "predict" the troubles it will cause. About saying the Lockdown is biased, I won't change my mind, and surprisingly you're actually not many to have said it was false. In my own and my guild's experience, having played a few guild games and took care of checking where geographically the opponent team was..it resulted that a game against a mostly american's guild was much, much harder to deal with than any other team. And I'm not talking about skills here, but simply gameplay. Even if I have serious latency issues I still can manage quite often the max damages over a game (that's how I like playing)..just that I can't play the game at full potential and that its strictly impossible to attempt playing at huge traffic times, that is to say in the evenings for me. Thanks and good day to you too ~.~

Sidenote: I'd love to see a moderator here (not to take care of the crazies, just to have an official begin of answer or so).

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