Spiral Knights - People quitting in lockdown

People quitting in lockdown

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Mon, 10/03/2011 - 20:38

Farakos

People rage quitting in lockdown is out of hand. Is a real downer when somebody quits, even if it is on the opposing team. I suppose this should be listed in suggestions, as a suggestion would be to not permit rage quitters to re-join 10 minutes after they've abandoned their team. The reason it is in this sub-forum is I would like to make a plea to the community. This is obviously something all of us are able to fix. Just don't do it. Rage quitting is a detriment to your teammates...even if you get tossed into a match you absolutely can not handle due to lack of skill or equipment, by sticking around the 2-3 minutes you give your teammates the chance to learn, play, regroup, etc. Rage quitting is also a detriment to your opponents, as it robs them of the chance to continue beating your brains in.

Instead of rage quitting maybe try another class? Or maybe a new strategy?

Seriously, just stop with the rage quitting.

For those of you who do not know what I am talking about, here is an example of Magnus, the guild leader of Guild, abandoning his team halfway through a complete slaughter in a guild match. Sorry about the beat down bro, as I'm sure since you had top gear going into lockdown you've handed out your share. Is it really fair though, now that more of us are on your gear level, to abandon competition just because you are getting beat all over the map? How would you feel if all the poor 4 star geared people fighting you the past weeks quit every time you spammed your GF for one shots?

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198031869768/screenshot/55979518...

Obviously this was taken directly after the match ended.

Please, either stop with the childish rage quitting or 000 penalize these people so the rest of us can enjoy healthy competition. Thank you.

NOTE: ORIGINALLY THIS POST SAID MAGNUS WAS CHRIS ON THE FORUMS: I POSTED THAT IN ERROR AND WHEN I RE-READ I NOTICED THE ERROR. APPOLOGIES TO CHRIS, WHO IS NOT MAGNUS AND NOT AFFILIATED WITH GUILD. IM COOL WITH BEING WRONG, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT WAS 2AM AND 12 BEERS LATER.

Mon, 10/03/2011 - 20:50

Diamondos

Rage quiting is annoying, but

Rage quiting is annoying, but they should, the rage quiters should know that there can always be miracles. Today, I had joined a random team, that in some reason, alot of us were quiting out of the party, but then we pulled through and won, despite the odds! Ragequitting I think is instinctive and people can't help feeling so angry with the losing, as even the most experienced players are annoyed with losing, but you can't blame them, there's a lot of heated competition in the pvp matches

Mon, 10/03/2011 - 20:52

Axonio

I had this problem today

A lot.

Of all the matches I played today, 80% of them had one or two ragequitters. The worse match was when I was 2 against 6, which is ridiculous. Also, I saw people quitting after they got killed for the first time, come on!

Today I lost a lot of times because of this (and the horrible balance of teams) and I really hope 000 can solve this problem with penalizations.

Mon, 10/03/2011 - 21:16

Kwizzy

It's kinda silly. The krogmo

It's kinda silly. The krogmo coin you get for sticking around is a 186cr refund of the 200cr join fee (or other stuff).

Mon, 10/03/2011 - 21:33

Cerious

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/576683685689987121/E39CAA578AEA0F959F0...

I'm sure this is fun for all parties involved!

e; btw I don't blame them for ragequitting. It's just that there's a domino effect when one person ragequits (someone left early in the match) which ends up causing everyone else on a team to just leave since there's hardly a point in sticking around to play.

Mon, 10/03/2011 - 21:44

Mayaura

2 points

First, if you are losing 300-50, then you already lost and it's natural for people to give up. Second, be happy they rage-quit cause it cost them their coin.

Mon, 10/03/2011 - 21:48

Cerious

I've had fun where I'm

I've had fun where I'm getting steamrolled and my team still puts up a good fight. I've never had fun where I'm getting steamrolled and half the team is gone. Sure, it's natural to give up, but it's also selfish.

Mon, 10/03/2011 - 22:16

Farakos

Some advice to people who are

Some advice to people who are rage quitting because they are just getting beat too quickly (maybe because they have entry level gear which we all had at one point and there is nothing wrong with that):

Try guardian and hang out with a recon, or play recon and roam around near a friendly guardian. If you are the guardian become the decoy to feed the recon kills. Stay within half a screen of the recon but avoid stacking so divine avenger/grand faust wide swings don't hit both of you. Bait players to attack you with your shield up and expect the recon to wail on them when their attack is paused. If you are the recon, wait for enemies to attack the guardian and move in to take a few hits on the attacker then re-stealth. You do not need to one shot or even 3-shot players to demolish them. Recons can not out run guardians and vice versa, so you should be able to follow one around, and they will thank you for it. You can really help your team out by holding a mid map point, dropping bombs when it seems like enemies would be headed your way. Remember as guardian your shield buff is not impacted by your gear, so you get the full ability to protect and heal your team while frustrating enemy gunners, bombers, and position takers. Same with recon, stealth mode doesn't care if you can't afford to upgrade your sword to grand faust yet. It might take an extra swing or two but when you learn to swing and stealth it wont matter how many it takes, either you will faceroll the enemy or they will run and heal. Don't take one bad round as guardian or recon as a sign that it sucks, it takes some getting used to since you want your shield up/stealth up as much as possible but also want to be able to, for example, drop bombs to deter the other team.

Oh, invest in a shock bomb, they are so OP for this set-up. Any attacker on the guardian will switch to gun while avoiding the shock on the ground and the recon can run to the gunning player and just have a field day on their face. Oh and while recon any player holding a charge on their weapon is a free kill.

Lastly, never use your full weapon animation unless you are sure you are going to kill the other player. Take a swing or two depending on the weapon and re-shield/re-stealth. It makes you SO much faster and prevents enemies from predicting where you will be. (See: Fei Long, SSF4AE counter traps)

I see a lot of new/lesser geared players pick striker and for me they are just the easiest targets, which says nothing about my skill and everything about my gear. I've probably just logged more time on the game, thus have more energy, heat, cash, whatever. I've been facerolled by people in 4 star gear playing smart just as I've taken out 5v1 5 star gear players who are all playing too predictably.

If the guardian/recon thing really isn't fun to you, yet you are going to get murdered as striker, then maybe more time in the clockworks making $$ and heat will give you the ability to play a very aggressive striker. I mean, if somebody is consistantly rage quitting then they probably are not enjoying playing, so the above suggestion is really just that, some advice to help you enjoy the game more. Sorry if it doesn't work, but stop the rage quitting: it spreads when you go to other players and really screws over a bunch of people for no reason at all. If anything you're just giving away money which you may be in need of anyway to upgrade some gear maybe.

And if you are in full 5 star gear with selected UVs, a guild leader of a prominent guild and active forum participator and still rage quitting then the only help for you is 000 implementing a fix to control your inability to control yourself. Or maybe just learn how to play I dunno.

Mon, 10/03/2011 - 22:35

Mrgreedy

I do my best

It really ticks me off when a person leaves before the match even starts. Despite any rage quitters I'll stick it out, unless if SK is giving me issues. Had that happen once. But my point is when people quit it really brings out the skill of those left. Sure my team lost in a 2v4 and the score was 505 to 355. The other person quit shortly after. Was a awesome game anyways, better than losing 500 to 50 with a full team. I kinda feel sorry when that happens to the other team. Also some of the other players on the other team where getting over 10K dmg on the other matches. Anyways my two bits :)

Advice to players - stick it out, even if you suck your presence makes a difference. More people that leave = lower moral for the team. Learn to enjoy the game.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/560921086926792694/AF9016A815349C44B87...

Mon, 10/03/2011 - 23:34

Nicoya-Kitty

Some advice to people who are

Some advice to people who are rage quitting because a bombhead mask didn't come up in the krogmo bribe: DIAF.

Mon, 10/03/2011 - 23:40

#10

Tengu

I will never ragequit. I'm

I will never ragequit. I'm not in it for the PvP, i'm in it for the Krogmo Coins.

Every game you play all the way thru, you get one. When you drop out, you lose both your money and your Krogmo Coin. Your leaderboard levels even go up if you lose! sometimes only 5 points below the winners!!!

Honestly, I don't understand ragequitting at all. Most of the randoms I've played in feel bad for the short team as well, which is nice. There's good sportsmanship to be found still.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 00:03

#11

Gwenyvier

I've quit one match early,

I've quit one match early, and that was because I had real life issues crop up suddenly.

Like a lot of people here, I don't get the rage quitters. Even if your team loses you still get a coin. I've seen a few people quit right off the bat if a Bombhead isn't the bribe (or there is no bribe). Other times they poof as soon as they're team gets behind a bit... which is really stupid considering there is such a thing as a bad start. Had a match today where my team started out 100 or so points behind and we had some guy quit. We went on to win the match by about 30 points.

Personally I think a dishonor system should be added to lockdown, similar to what Guild Wars has. You leave in the middle of a match, you get dishonor points. You afk a match, pull a hetero (search the forums if you don't know what that is), etc., your team mates can go /dishonor (Name), if a majority (half, at least) of your team mates do it you get dishonor points. Collect enough, you're banned from lockdown for a few days (none of the 5-10 minutes BS, that's 1 match).

And yes, most people that stick around after somebody rage quits are nice to the team that was a man down at the end. If they're the other team and they lose I normally tell them sorry about the idiot. If they win I congratulate them on a job very well done, as unless you're on a very good team it's rather hard to win a man down.

~Gwen

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 00:03

#12

Tipiak

To be honest, I'm not sure

To be honest, I'm not sure all quits are rage-quits since quite often I see people quit before the game even starts !!! (or just after the start)

I suspect there are many connexion problems, may be more in LD than in the rest of SK...

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 00:23

#13

No-Thanks

Zelda

people pay 200 crowns to have fun

people do NOT pay 200 crowns to be owned
people do NOT pay 200 crowns to be glued to the computer for 10 minutes

show some understanding instead of demanding it

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 00:46

#14

Eldibs

Oh my, it's so hard to stay

Oh my, it's so hard to stay at the computer for ten whole minutes. I just don't know what I'd do if I had to find ten minutes in my busy day to entertain myself with a video game.

Did you seriously just justify rage-quitting by saying "Well maybe they didn't want to lose?" Have you even heard the word "sportsmanship" before, or is that your general attitude on life? Giving up just because you're in the middle of losing? That's what children do. "We'll I'm losing, so I'm just gonna turn over the whole game board!" If you can't finish a ten minute game because you're not winning, you don't deserve to play in the first place.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 01:10

#15

No-Thanks

Zelda

is it pointless to say that not every1 considers himself a slave of his/her property?

if it isnt, let me know, cuz further comments wont go to waste then

and for pitys sake dont quote something no1 said in this whole thread, apparantly u know sportsmanship, but dont act according to it, at least in this thread

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 04:40

#16

Eotal

Your ragequitting costs the

Your ragequitting costs the fun of the rest of your team. Are you so damn self-absorbed you'd rather ruin everyone else's game and 200cr rather than put up with 2 more minutes of virtual ass-kicking?
I hope you never end up in my own team.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 05:12

#17

Aatu

possible solution

For deserters, I'd like to suggest a two-hour ban from playing Lockdown. It's not too long to give grave trouble to anyone, but it also encourages people to stay on with the match.

Someone might say that it's not their fault if their connection or computer hangs or there's an urgent family matter at hand. But it surely isn't the rest of the team's fault either, who are actually losing the match because of you. And if there's a constant problem of you hanging, then you shouldn't even be playing, but addressing the problem, instead.

But because I know this will in turn also increase AFK'ers (which are effectively even worse, because they take the spoils of the game, too), I think those rules should also be improved. I've seen some people just randomly walking against walls over half of the game, but still get points. Haven't reported them, because they might be just lagging. But either way, I think the rank points and money given should also be distributed based on the input you give for the team.

This shouldn't be based only on damage, though. I think they should add some algorithms to determine how much one benefits the team in total. Examples: guardian's health regeneration, recon's defense debuffing, captures and defends (or alternatively the amount of time increasing the domination point's influence), and naturally the general damage. If someone is greatly differing from the team's average, he will get less points and money (min 70%, max 130%), but still get the same tokens. If he's clearly an AFK'er (all zeroed or erratic/non-existent movement), he will also lose the tokens.

And to No-Thanks, your rage-quitting is ruining the game for the rest of the team (sometimes even for the other team). If you can't see the problem in that, you're simply selfish. And I agree with Eotal, I hope we'll never end up in the same team. Not only because of you possibly rage-quitting, but also to not carry you into victory.

Actually, OOO should just disable the bribe prizes for recurring rage-quitters, too. Think about it, if they were to implement these rules, what kind of gamers would be left? Yes, the enjoyable ones. Gonna post this in the suggestion sub-forum, too.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 05:29

#18

No-Thanks

Zelda

hey i dont ragequit on a regular basis, i havent pvped for over 4 days i think

dont try to offend me just because im trying to defend the few people, who may not want to suffer, when they can decide not to..or the people who are out of time or whatever else issues they may have

also, no, i dont have the intention of ruining everyone else's game
if i leave a pvp game, its either becuz im not having fun because of miscellaneous reasons or it could be several other issues, but i dont sit ther thinking"ha my team gona suffer wahahaha!"...thats pretty much nonsense..unless ur that guy spamming electron vortex lol. actually i still appreciate his activities seeing u guys with so little understanding and the expectation of active participation throughout the whole match calling quitters "self-absorbed", while not noticing, that ur being that exact same thing by blaming quitters for ruining YOUR fun

oh and i wouldnt mind being in your team, id play as i wanted to despite u appreciating it or not(besides i commonly eded up within the top 4 of captures and dmg of average players, just to rub it in)

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 05:33

#19

No-Thanks

Zelda

an extra post for #17 ur selfish too, i hope u do understand that

u guys have too many attempts to solve the problems, which cannot be solved and ideas for punishing players, why not simply support my suggestion of a free for all mode

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/25424

it hurts to face ur attitude but its entertaining ~.~'

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 06:11

#20

Aatu

selfish?

Yes, free-for-all would also be nice. And sorry for the attack, but you surely sounded like one of those people losing their temper after their first death and reaching for the virtual exit-button faster than the speed of light.

But no, I don't see myself as selfish (or then we have a different concept of the word selfish). I do understand my solution is a capitalist view (I think it's the capitalist view, but I'm not so great on politics, so could be wrong). But truth be told, my suggestion is fairly gentle to the free-loaders (I mean come on, 70% of loot even if you're total waste, but just trying? AND getting all the same tokens, possibly even bribe prizes?), could be far worse. I could have suggested linear distribution, which would end up with 10-190% distribution. But that would harm the player base quite quickly. Would elevate competition among the top, though. That's actually what even your suggested free-for-all would be closer to, you know?

Actually, is there anything you consider unfair in my solution, and in what way?

Also (quote):
"the few people, who may not want to suffer, when they can decide not to.."

That's exactly what the rest of us despise, deserters. Why do you want to defend them? They RUIN the game for the rest of the team (and sometimes even for the other team).
Lockdown is a virtual war setting. Deserters are highly despised in war. If I'm not completely mistaken, deserters are traditionally also quite heavily punished, to discourage the act of deserting.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 06:51

#21

Leinhart

Even if you get disconnected

Even if you get disconnected there is still no excuse. Don't play on a shoddy connection. It really screws over your teammates.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:19

#22

Aatu

opinion

@No-Thanks:

I'd like to comment on your earlier post, regarding the paying of 200cr, and what that promises:
Actually, you don't pay 200 to have fun. You pay 200cr to take part in Lockdown. No guarantees of fun there.

But if given your view that you pay 200cr to have fun, consider it this way:
You're wasting other people's 200cr by making the match NOT fun.

So yes, you play to have some fun, but so are the others. Your rage-quitting actually spoils the fun for them. You're putting "your fun" above others'. That's being selfish.

PS. Not relating "you" to you, but to deserters.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:25

#23

Negimasonic

maybe instead, we should make

maybe instead, we should make them free electron bombs, they can busy themselves dropping bombs in their own locker rooms :D

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:29

#24

Gwenyvier

I might have been a little

I might have been a little over zealous with the couple days part of my previous post, I was grumpy, only excuse and a poor one at that. Anyways, a few hours does sound better. A couple days still sounds good for chronic offenders though. Still think a dishonor system would fix the issue for the most part.

@No-Thanks
Actually, I would be all in favor of a FFA mode of PvP. Not lockdown obviously as there would be no way to control more then one point at a time unless ALL of your opponents are completely inept. And also not unless they made armors' defense mean something. As it is now a GF 2-shots/Acheron 3-shots anybody without 2 full bars of health whether they have on Dread Skelly (highest shadow defense in the game) or Vog (no shadow defense). It would just be beta PvP all over again, and most beta players say that sucked hard.

@Aatu
I am not disagreeing with you. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't war deserters get mandatory jail time or just outright killed when found depending on the country? Few hours ban from PvP sounds fair... actually sounds like jail time to me.

~Gwen

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:31

#25

No-Thanks

Zelda

i dont wana go detailed into the system, free for all sounds like a simple solution, how its implemented and how it works, that shall not be my concern

i dunno about unfair..fairness is a matter of chances and both teams have the same chances of ending up in random teams with ramdom players and random skills and random moods.
u could also consider fairness a matter of experiences..eg some1 whos always in the losing team despite his efforts and some1 whos always in the winning team without doing much. the 1 in the losing team might call it unfair, even if he had the same chances of ending up in the winning team

ive rarely been in balanced games and yes they were nice, but u know..u cant force a player to play, u can try but thats it, he/she aint a robot lol

the approach of punishing players disturbs me. id barely give a damn, but the chances of anything discussed here being implemented into the game exactly as described are pretty much zero. im merely using some topics for entertainment purposes. and seeing people's posts encourages me to write my own stuff

"Lockdown is a virtual war setting. Deserters are highly despised in war. If I'm not completely mistaken, deserters are traditionally also quite heavily punished, to discourage the act of deserting."

lockdown is a virtual competitive*add pointless descriptive words here* game, not a war. u may consider it 1, which i dont mind. but u shouldnt expect every1 to do the same.

ur solution is very flawed. it doesnt contribute much to the fun, it only focuses on
-the rewards, which are still team based
-the punishments, which dont prevent people from leaving teams

it could be that im getting it wrong and ur actual problem is, that players dont get punished for what they do..u should keep in mind, that a punishment in your eyes may be something completely different for some1 else, eg some1 wouldnt giv a damn like me or some1 would be very sad about it.

in either case most people might not be influenced by the punishments as they should. from the few people, who do get influenced, many might stop pvping and if they do pvp, the chances of them landing in your team are rather little.

from what the thread title says the problem is "People quitting in lockdown" and a punishment and change of rewards isnt gona solve that. its funny to imagine a thread full of donald duck's

people commonly name their issues fun, fairness and rewards.
my personal issues r fun and price. i dislike, when i have to pay for my fun. and i dislike when that payment goes to waste.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:38

#26

No-Thanks

Zelda

#22 came just in time, it blows ur cover of fun and reveals the strive for victory, which every1 is after
u may not be able to understand, but i can live without winning as long as i can enjoy myself killing people without losing 200 crowns every game

and i can live with that consideration no problem..it just wont be the only criteria im using and definitely not on top priority

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:54

#27

Farakos

@no-thanks I understand 100%

@no-thanks I understand 100% of what you are saying. Why play a game if you aren't having fun? My point is that not only does quitting ruin other peoples fun but it quitting is contagious. I am a person who will suffer through a few minutes for everybody else.

@Gwenyvier Obviously there are legit reasons to turn off your pc. RL > Game. I would never flame or troll somebody for leaving a game to deal with something that is obviously more important. This is a game after all.

@People talking about internet connections. I was playing a game a few months ago, was a game where a lot of people had to cooperate and I had a pretty important job in the mix. The church across the street from me caught on fire and burned to the ground. It was three stories, there were like 20 fire trucks. Nobody was hurt so I am free to say it was pretty cool to be honest (the church was closed anyway, the parish had moved to a new building, and in honesty the congregation is under investigation for starting the fire for insurance money) Flames were shooting hundreds of feet into the air. I live downtown New Orleans, so when I say across the street I literally mean directly across a small 2 lane road. Inside my house it had to be over 100 degrees. Anyway obviously I lost power and internet that night. [Poop] happens. AT&T, Comcast, Cox, they all suck. They drop connections from time to time regardless of how much $ you give them. I've noticed every 24 hours your steam authentication drops. Not that I play 24 hours straight but sometimes I leave SK logged on and go about my life, come back after work, maybe play and during I will get "steam authentication failed" and have to completely close it then restart. It kicks me from SK when that happens.

Its the people who just give up after getting smashed a few times that I am concerned with. Take a loss and learn from it, try something new, talk to your team in a constructive manner: don't just scream you suck in /team. I promise that rage quitters will enjoy their time much more if they are not rage quitting.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 08:10

#28

Tengu

The disconnecting thing does

The disconnecting thing does suck for everyone, including the player who quit the match. I bet that's more frustrating for them than anything.

No-thanks, your stance is silly. It doesn't matter how much you support it, nobody cares anymore. ADHD is not a valid point of view on quitting.

Also, please use full words. There will never be a time where people think txtspelling = intelligence.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 08:15

#29

Overourlimit

Stop complaining and get over

Stop complaining and get over it and yourselves. Its a very common thing in world of warcraft which I played for many years and arenas and bgs are full of it. Not even in that game have I ever seen this much whining so grow up. You also have no right to tell others what to do

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 08:21

#30

Mashyu

http://i53.tinypic.com/28txl3

http://i53.tinypic.com/28txl3s.png
good game it was one sided BUT no one left thats the spirit!! lulz

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 08:38

#31

No-Thanks

Zelda

For Tengu:
"Please, either stop with the childish rage quitting or 000 penalize these people so the rest of us can enjoy healthy competition. "
Asking people to stop with the childish rage quitting and/or penalizing quitters will not decrease the amount of quitters by much, i believe.

I put it in this format just for you.

And in case, that you didn't bother to read my other posts, i'll repeat it for you. I'm doing this for my personal entertainment. I don't have any other reasons for writing my posts. The chances of anything mentioned here being implemented into the game are close to zero.

I feel offended by your post, but all i feel, is the joy of replying to it. I'm glad to get enough people of my choice to end up replying to my posts.

"You also have no right to tell others what to do"
Unfortunately and/or luckily, this isn't true, but i appreciate reading it.

not for tengu and other ppl who dislike my posting style
#27 u seem to be a nice person :D, i remember learning from ppl like u

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 08:51

#32

Farakos

@Overourlimit In WoW there is

@Overourlimit In WoW there is a penalty for leaving bgs right? I think its 30 minute cooldown? If people will not stop rage quitting then all I am asking is OOO do the same thing. Rage quitting sucks because once one person does it a few more tend to and then nobody on either team is enjoying themselves.

I am not TELLING people what to do, it is a plea to the community to stop a practice that degrades the game. It isn't like I'm knocking on peoples doors.

See, as many people have said on this thread and an obvious assumption: People play games because they are fun. Spiral Knights is fun. This issue, rage quitting, is a source of the opposite of fun. Why is it so extreme to create a thread on the issue?

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 08:55

#33

Rangerwillx

Hah.

I have a worse problem then rage-quitting. Instead of rage quitting, I rage CE revive. Then, by doing that, I lose the $ I make winning.
Aaaah. Wish I rage-quitted instead. XD

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 09:07

#34

Kwizzy

I think the rank points and

I think the rank points and money given should also be distributed based on the input you give for the team. ...

Bad idea. For example, it's impossible to determine how much someone is distracting the enemy. When I'm in a serious game (bombheads or I filled krogmo), I try to gather as many opponents as I can, and run them all back to the entrance of their base. Sometimes I shoot them with a gun, but I basically just spend a minute or two dodging attacks & being completely worthless on the scoreboard - and yet I'll probably win us the game if my team is terrible.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 09:13

#35

Overourlimit

No-thanks i wasnt saying that

No-thanks i wasnt saying that to you so chill out..

Also WOW is a paid subscription so they made that so people who pay a monthly fee dont get subjected to have their fun ruined this is a F2P game hence forth theres no reason for any kind of punishment for playing how you want without harassing or bothering someone else which rage quitting is a personal issue so i see no reason for it to be punished.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 09:14

#36

Biznasty

I'd say the issue of

I'd say the issue of ragequitting isn't really how many people practice it (although obviously a penalty for quitting in the middle of matches would be good), but rather, how the team losing players doesn't get any bonuses at all. Even a single player lost on a 6 player match can be quite an issue if the other team is organized enough. This is generally what sets off a chain of quitting, completely damning a team.

If a team lost a member, getting some faster capping bonus, health bonuses, or whatever, would probably help a lot with this.

Quitting itself? Preventing quitting players from rejoining for a couple minutes would help, perhaps hiding the reward until the end of the match so people don't just quit for bombheads or whatever, etc etc. If the delay for rejoining a PvP match was long enough, it'd probably cut down most of the quitting, although there'd still be a couple oddheads around.

Note: I'm pretty sure most of those people that do ragequit don't really read or care much about the forums.
Additional note: God damn you guys love duplicate threads.

For those of you who do not know what I am talking about, here is an example of Magnus, Chris on the forums, the guild leader of Guild, abandoning his team halfway through a complete slaughter in a guild match.

lol wat

this is one of the most ridiculous sentences I've read in a good while

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 09:39

#37

Orangeo

I don't even comprehend why

I don't even comprehend why ragequitting is up for discussion, such an obvious answer. In ragequitting's defense, teambalance does have plenty of issues, so there is arguable motive, but it's still a losing battle if you try to defend it. I'll give to the point that finding three sklovers with heavy swords on the other team dosen't make an appealing match when I generaly use my shivermist.

Obviously just put in a 10 minute penalty for anyone who leaves, so if they had to drop it for something in real life, it won't be a problem unless they are doing something for 9 minutes, and if they are just quitting continualy, they get stopped.

Or prehaps it starts at 5 minutes, then goes to 10, then to 20, etc? It's a tweakable thought. That would get rid of the mass-rage quitters. I've seen the same guy join my team, quit before anyone get's the second base, hoin again, quit immediately, then join again, and quit once more. Quitting one match and doing something else is fine, but quitting then joining again is pretty lame.

Also, I'm not going to vouch for the people with shoddy connection. They should fix it, then play. Going into lockdown as your cat pee's on your dial up router not only wastes your tiime, it wastes my time. Not to mention crowns.

Now, onto the backup plan, since three rings won't impliment a system that gets rage quitters out of my game, becuase they think they might hurt the feelings of people like Overourlimit, who only feel the need to rage and thus quit. Make it so if we have half the players, each individual takes over a base twice as fast, etc. Then the smaller team dosen't have an advantage or disadvantage.

Now that I'm done rolling out my suggestions, onto the actuual argument.
Overourlimit; "You also have no right to tell others what to do"
You do know that's the reason things like laws, that tell people what to do, were invented? Provoking people by claiming that it's your right to act however you please only means that you'll get forced to act a specific way. Just becuase you get mad dosen't mean you can spread your disease to me. Cavemen-anarchists would freeley pillage their buddies village, becuase they belived it was their right to do as they pleased, untill mesopotamia decided to make laws, and kill anyone who didn't follow. On the spot. So, do you chose the right to behave or the right to obey?

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 10:26

#38

Tengu

@no-thanks on second thought,

@no-thanks

on second thought, use txtspeak please.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 10:28

#39

Asthix

Please deal with this somehow

Was playing two days ago and had seven matches in a row where at least one person from my team left the match before the halfway point. The opposing team never had anyone leave. We almost won one despite this, but seven losses in a row due to quitters is something that should be addressed. I am in favor of a tempban.

With that said, there are times when I accidentally right click on the margin of my window and hit exit while maneuvering quickly, forgetting to lock the HUD, etc. I acknowledge that some quitting is unintentional but please, if a dev sees this, I don't want to spent 1400 CR in vain again.

Oh, and I've also been kicked for non-participation while in the lobby. What's up with that?

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 10:29

#40

Overourlimit

To remark on your previous

To remark on your previous accusations i have never been or will be a rage-quitter so good job on calling out something you know nothing about, im simply saying you cant tell people how to play a free game if people were to charge a monthly sub perhaps then yes but being a F2P game you cant really subject people to a rage quitting rule because it just really makes no sense perhaps one day they would charge a Sub and then you would get your wish of elitist douchebags running around controlling lockdown

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 10:36

#41

Orangeo

"will be a rage-quitter so

"will be a rage-quitter so good job on calling out something you know nothing about"
All right, got me there. Still dosen't affect my actuual point, that I most certianaly do have the right to tell people what to do. By telling me that I can't do that, you are telling me what to do, thus contradicting yourself; creating a completely invalid argument.

edit;
"you would get your wish of elitist douchebags running around controlling lockdown"
That's not what I'm saying, what I'm saying is that if rage quitters keep it up, they're gonna get cracked down on like scarface. Everyones intitled to a rage quit, if they really have to, but waaay to many people abuse it to the point of giving it a police wistle, ruining it for good people.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 10:35

#42

Overourlimit

No one should be able to say

No one should be able to say anything about it or tell anyone what to do, becauses its a common thing in most pvp games.. it happens, move on, deal with it, and continue on your way playing SK

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 10:37

#43

Overourlimit

As i stated its not a pay to

As i stated its not a pay to play game (in a logical sense it isnt) thus it shouldnt be subjected to penaltys like other games like World of warcrafts pvp because as i said its F2P and if they did it alot of players would simply quit this game and i doubt OOO wants to risk that

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 10:38

#44

Orangeo

"No one should be able to say

"No one should be able to say anything about it or tell anyone what to do, becauses its a common thing in most pvp games,... move on..."
You mean no one should argue with you becuase you lack suppourting argument? Or you'd rather just let the problem sit there and ferment like a wound?

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 10:39

#45

Orangeo

"pay to play game (in a

"pay to play game (in a logical sense it isnt) thus it shouldnt be subjected to penaltys like other games like World of warcrafts"
Uhh, I paid buddy. Becuase three rings certianaly deserves 40 bucks from us all. So why am I being subjected to your penaltys? Shoo peon, shoo.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 10:40

#46

Overourlimit

Its not really a problem,

Its not really a problem, people just bring up threads to fight something they dont like, doesnt make it right or wrong its a part of the game... leave it alone and stop trying to pull OOO off from making and releasing more content. This is more nonsense then its worth

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 10:41

#47

Overourlimit

I've spent about $60 and you

I've spent about $60 and you hear me whining and crying? yea i thought not

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 10:42

#48

Lestatshadow

from the rest of the team perspective, not your selfish one!

simple fact here rage quitters or people leaving lockdown are annoying i said this in my own thread a 5 to 10 minute ban from lockdown on the rage quitters/afk would be fair and would stop most of the afk and leaver half way though a game. You can [tart] and moan out how we should not get punished for quitting out a game because you don't want to loss.

well let think about this from the rest of the team perspective, not your selfish one your punishing the rest of your team buy quitting out of lock-down as they have all most no chance of winning thanks to your selfish action. There for i see it only fit that you should be punished and keep being punished until you learn that wrecking anyone fun with your selfish action will not be tolerated.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 10:42

#49

Orangeo

"Its not really a problem,

"Its not really a problem, people just bring up threads to fight something they dont like, doesnt make it right or wrong its a part of the game."
Once again, a retreat tactic, as I stated before, becuase your only point's now are;
"it's not worth it"
and
"You ain't the boss of me"
As opposed to my considerate helpeful cause.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 10:43

#50

Overourlimit

Ive been 2 on 4 before and

Ive been 2 on 4 before and still won its not a issue really if you know what your doing and are willing to work together with whats left of your team.. I would seriously rather see new stuff added then something this lame fixed.

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