Has anyone tried using Volcanic Pepperbox's charged shot on Vanaduke's mask before? If you already have a pepperbox, I'll give you 30k crown to test it for me :-)
Volcanic Pepperbox, giving 30k crowns to test it for me
Hes implying that just like blitz has the best dps on vanas body, maybe the pepperbox being normal has it for the mask, I dont think thats likely, but in any case is sort of safe since you can stay in a safe position and just shoot.
Good point. Ok, if that's the case, comparing damage, then my test will be invalid because it will be with a 4* version. Anyone else?
Note however, that Pepperbox line deals less damage per hit than Needle line (because it has a status, even the bars are shorter).
I've got a Volcanic Pepperbox, and would be happy to test for ya next time I'm down there.
Just finished the boss, unsuccessfully, but I got my results.
The test was conducted using a heat lv 3 Volcanic Pepperbox. I realize this isn't the best test subject, but heating 5* stuff takes forever and you'd be waiting quite a while for your answer.
Body Shot (unpoisoned): 57 x 15 = 855
Body Shot (poisoned): 63 x 15 = 945
Mask Shot (unpoisoned): 63 x 15 = 945
Mask Shot (poisoned): 70 x 15 = 1,050
The "vacuum" effect does NOT pull either Vanaduke or his mask, and does NOT set any of the enemies in the fight on fire.
Now for the extrapolation.
The wiki's incomplete so far as the Blitz Needle goes, but calculating from the following at lv 10 (the only current entries), we come up with:
Vs Pierce Resistant: 37/shot
Vs Pierce Weak: 215/shot
Resist seems to be about /2 and weak seems to be about x3, so I'll assume a level 10 Blitz Needle will be doing a (generous for ease of calculation) 75 per charged hit to foes with regular defenses. This times 15 bullets is 1,125 total damage for the charge attack.
From this, since the test indicates that the mask takes about as much damage as the poisoned body (seems about 10% more than normal), I'll assume that against the mask, a full charged volley would deal about 1,250 (again, generous for ease of calculation).
Conclusion: In order for the Volcanic Pepperbox to be equal to the Blitz Needle in terms of damage, it would have to gain about 20 points of damage per shot over the course of the next seven heat levels that I have yet to gain on the test weapon. I'll make another post after I gain a level with it to see if this is reasonable or not.
I took a screenshot before the fight to show off the weapon and the intrepid group that got me there, with that awesome dead-on view from the elevator:
http://tinypic.com/r/veq89u/7
I looked up a few YouTube videos (I'm workin' for my money!) and noted that the wielder was dealing 143 damage per shot with the charge, as "big" numbers that imply a damage weakness. The wielder was apparently not wearing any special equipment for this, so it seems that the wiki's information is probably wrong (as wikis often are), and along with it my assumptions. The video didn't say what level the weapon was at, but the poster described it as "new."
So do with it what you will. It seems to me that the Blitz is shaping up to be much, MUCH better than the Volcanic (for this application, anyway).
Shoot, they beat me to it. I already had tested this before... Wish I saw this before hand. -_-
Well... Blitz still has better DPS, for me atleast (When using Elite Trueshot, just for VD). 112*15
Well... May as well try to sell my VP once more... NPC's you guys want one?
Thanks for those numbers. I mailed you the 30k.
Hey I was on Arquebus' team during his testing....that's me in the background with the silver six.
Anyways, I later came back down to Vanaduke with another team with my level 10 fiery pepperbox. I was hitting Vana's body for 63 each shot on a charge attack unpoisoned and 70 when he was poisoned. So I suspect a level 10 Volcanic Pepperbox will do more than that.
I also read up on some thread about the Blitz Needle vs the Plague Needle (http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/19830), I wanted to know which one was better for me to make. From what I read, the Plague Needle does 36% less damage than the Blitz Needle but the poison effect will allow everybody to do 10% more damage to Vana and Vana will do less damage to everybody (although it was mentioned it's doubtful if the fire status effect damage he causes will be reduced or not). Additionally supposedly when Vana is poisoned, any of his fireball defense you had put out with water will not respawn. Somebody said the Plague Needle will do about 100 per shot charged on Vana. I found a YouTube video showing somebody doing 146 per charge shot on Vana (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoz9TejjL_4) with a Blitz Needle.
So I think the Blitz Needle will do the most damage, and the Volcanic Pepperbox would probably do about the same as the Plague Needle minus the additional damage & effect bonuses you would get from Vana being poisoned.
Well I deal with dmg bonus very high to Vanas body incredible 194 x 15 damage for each charge ^^
Pepperbox and Plague are incredible weak compared to Blitz.
I have a Fiery Peps (heat's too slow), don't have access to the game until 10 hours or so, though.
Wait what, are you implying that maybe we can pull off Vanaduke's mask? :D
*plays Imperial March*