You have no grounds to say Nordlead is a swordsman, and you just critisized his whole comment and attempted to negate his opinion. He was merely saying that he doesn't have a problem picking up the drops in time, just in an extended comment. It's nice to have people explain themselves, rather than just say "-1".
I don't have any trouble picking up the drops in time, and I'm a gunslinger.
I meant as in doing things such as dodging enemies to get to the goodies, or slipping through a stream of slag breath, but reactions was the best word I could think of, and has nothing to do with TPhax
EDIT: 2 pages, didn't see the newer post. I'm a bomber, and have little to moderate difficulty getting everything, depending on mob density.
So yeah, basically you expect me to know teleportation techniques.
As a shards bomber i first need to clean out the way from puppies, and those, if they are polyps, take forever to kill with shards, the real horror starts with rocket puppies with their homing missiles. But hey, those are all fair game, i'm not complaining about them. It doesn't make sense though for the game to take the reward i earned from me just because i can't faceroll through everything to get to my rewards in time.
@Hexzyle
"u suck"
Okay, whatever.
I don't know what facerolling is but that hardly matters. I use my guns and my bombs along with my swords to effectively take out monsters without getting killed. Yes, I prefer swords (3 swords, 2 bombs, and 1 gun and no it isn't a Polaris), but that doesn't mean I have less "tactics" or that I'm less "defensive". If tactics mean I play as slow as a turtle than I guess I don't have tactics. If being defensive means I have to shoot every single monster with a pea shooter, then I guess I don't use defense.
If the game mechanic is flawed, then there have been many many many games that use this same flawed mechanic. Like others have said, this mechanic either forces you to go into a potentially more dangerous area or give up the reward. There is nothing flawed with that since it is a choice you have to make. Even if it was flawed, it does not penalize "slow" weapons. It only penalizes those people who kill one monster and never bother to walk by within 1.5 minutes. I can kill one monster every 2 minutes and still manage to pick up every single drop if I really wanted to take 1 hour per floor.
I also apologize for offended you so much for happening to like how one of the most common armors in the game looks.
Bilious elitism
/me spits over shoulder
Well sorry for not using a cookie-cutter build
While the crown/heat update may have been put in place to deter looping it was also put into place at a time when OOO was adding performance enhancements to the game. So to say that there is "no reason" for it anymore is unfounded as there is a clear correlation between active objects and game performance.
Edit: I'm trying to add to the discussion in the original argument - as I now realize this thread has gotten a *little* derailed
If it was directly related to performance then everything that dropped from monsters would be affected - materials and consumables aren't affected by this at all.
That was terrible. Please go learn how to debate/disagree/use correct internet etiquette.
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First time I've ever seen someone drop as low as the bottom rung.
And although in a lot of other games drops disappear, no other games are "pay per level" so I reckon it should at least have an extension. I'd be verry happy with 120 seconds.
You pointing out that i suck? Indeed, it was terrible, you should feel ashamed.
Apologies. I thought you were aiming that at me. You were quoting something I didn't say - see where the confusion came from?
When you collect the whole thread, and you dropping in "I don't have any trouble picking up the drops in time, and I'm a gunslinger." then its the only way i can perceive this.
The drop rate for materials and consumables is far less however on the order of a tenth the amount of heat or crowns.
If they wanted to boost the performance through that, they could've just made it so that the heat and crowns go instantly to players, that would block any, even try-hard ways to loop.
More time is nice...
But why so heated? I used to use a bomb and generally have no problem walking through drops. Actually, I follow the drops to give myself a path to go through.
I do understand your point, though. Especially when doing some T3 arenas, one has no time to actively go around things to pick them up.
Increase the timer, or have it auto loot. It would save everyone some time.
Yes, I now use swords. There, go ahead and flame my faceroll build.
How do u loop? why does it matter if the cr and heat go away
"Yes, I now use swords. There, go ahead and flame my faceroll build."
I don't really care what you use, i'm just talking about the whole ignorance of all the swordies that just can't grasp that certain weapon combos are slow and that stuff like that can happen, instead they go "hurp durp u too slow" which i find cunning. I don't intent to belittle anyone's playstyle, you've got it reverse, everyone tells me to go the efficient way.
I clicked "stop" because I realised I needed to edit my post, but obviously I wasn't fast enough.
(see below comment)