I'VE HAD ENOUGH!
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 14:24
-CE Price is above 7,000 crowns!
-What Dark source is causing this mess?
-Once CE price was around 5,000 crowns!
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 14:33
#2
Ok really? Have you not
Ok really? Have you not noticed the 9000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 other threads like this?
Reasons why it happened
The Free Elevator Pass- REDUCING CE DEMAND whilst still having a HIGH SUPPLY of CE
This made CE not needed for Elevator runs for a MONTH
Thus people could easily gain up 100s of 100000 CR easiy without spending a single Energy Unit.
Less Demand, Higher Supply,
And lets not forget the market is RUN BY PLAYERS
The Shadow Keys Being MERCHANT BOUGHT
Thus we now can get these again depleting the CE supply AGAIN and in turn raising the price because all the cheap ones get bought out.
I see no reason why It would stay at 5000. It only reached that low price because of the high demand of CE due to all the Updates flying out requiring CE.
I'll also add you like stating the problem in 3 lines and giving no real counter arguement in the OP. Just saying.
I expect it to be 7.5k by next week if no other updates are made to reduce it. Then again 7k is nothing considering you use Mist only OR the free Pass
Come back when it hits 10k, THEN we can complain.
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 14:37
#3
SWEET!
@Xylka-Mkii: I'll be there! XD
(really, this still sucks :/ I'll never get to 4* at this rate. Well, not for a very long time anyway...Ah well. Time will tell.)
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 15:18
#4
I think most everyone is
I think most everyone is thinking backwards. Being the elevator pass is in place, everyone is spending their money on the pass and not buying ce with real money, there for the supply of ce is going down and the crown intake has risen, and everyone who now has the pass wants to buy ce with crowns and there simply isn't enough ce being bought with real money and sold for crowns...
in turn before $5 or $6 = 1600ce which would = either 160 depths or approx 96k to 100k cr
now $6 = no ce but allows unlimited depths and as much cr intake the depths that you can run will provide.
90% of the people who i talk to have bought the pass, and the other 10% wont buy the pass nor ce. so thats my reasoning why I say ce supply is going to depleted state and cr intake is rising.
if OOO is going to continue to offer the elevator pass they need a way to keep the energy market and supply stable, it only makes since to buy the elevator pass but now no one is going to buy ce untill the little supply that is left is completely depleted. Before the pass ce was the only thing you could purchase, now we have the pass yet ce is only still able to be entered into the game through purchase with real money, that now needs to change. I know before the pass I would spend an easy 200ce+ a day on just running depths, and yes it would pay for its self. I also think ooo sold more elevator passes in 2 days then they do in at least a week of selling ce? just a little bit of what i see.
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 15:25
#5
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!
-10k is worst!
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 15:43
#6
@Psychodestroyer Yes!
@Psychodestroyer Yes! Damastaa agrees!
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 15:51
#7
@Shortnstubby
Thanks for the
@Shortnstubby
Thanks for the number cruching! :D
Im always too lazy to do it myself so i never can accurately state an argument dealing with that, so thanks! Also Yeah I can see how this will impact the CE market more clearly (Im on and off nowadays)
@Grievos.
Yeah its the worst, thats why theres no reason to complain now, since technically the price could rise to 100k if the sellers want that. However looking back at Short's post, After the Limited edition passes are taken out of circulation, the price will most likelygradually go down to 6k again if not 6.5.
But like I said before, it was like this before the steam update and all that followed. People have predicted this LONG before, and some people didnt believe them. Also if these passes are out AND you have 100 Mist energy, I see no reason why even newer players whould have trouble generating enough CR for CE. I mean, JK was nerfed, and the levels are what REALLY gives the CR anyway, averaging about 5000 cr per run even WITH one or 2 revives if you really need them. Rinse and repeat per day and youll be racking in 100 CE per 1.5 days.
BUUUUT if your n5* and in FSC and STILL can break even, then you shouldnt be whining at all.
TL;DR
Run JK every day. Dont do the Boss floor. Use a MAXIMUM of 2 revives if needed. 5k CR per day and basically free.
Tell me how 7k is bad now.
T1 yeah, but aren't they supposed to just LEARN the game and not be in the CE market yet? And T2 should be able to break even.
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 17:59
#8
@Grievos
Cool story, bro
Nice to know you can't still figure these things out for yourself :)
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 18:02
#9
Oakgear, you post made my
Oakgear, you post made my day, and i pulled a muscle in my neck. :D
Sat, 11/19/2011 - 18:53
#10
Boswick
Boswick
Sun, 11/20/2011 - 18:06
#11
@Oakgear
-You get on my last nerves.
Sun, 11/20/2011 - 18:12
#12
What?
There can be only one last nerve and I'm not a parasite
Thu, 12/08/2011 - 17:35
#13
I thought this was about
Jim Dale thought this was about snakes.
Sun, 11/20/2011 - 19:44
#14
icwutudidthar
@Jim-Dale
Lol i
icwutudidthar
@Jim-Dale
Lol i thought maybe fish, but we'll go with snakes for now
Mon, 11/21/2011 - 01:31
#15
-CE Price is above 7,000
-CE Price is above 7,000 crowns!
-What Bright source is causing this awesomeness?
-Once CE price was around 20,000 crowns!
Mon, 11/21/2011 - 04:56
#16
When I started it was 2k cr
When I started it was 2k cr
Mon, 11/21/2011 - 07:28
#17
@grievos
leave oakgear alone, hes never been the same since he became bipolar.
anyway, do we sit and wait or do we start to sell ce cheaper?
Mon, 11/21/2011 - 07:36
#18
The complainers seem to miss the point:
Buyers set the price, not sellers.
You can believe that or not but it is quite true.
Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:20
#19
What Dark Ritual?
@Heatsurge
Good times, goooooooood times.
Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:50
#20
OOO Would like CE in game
OOO Would like CE in game prices to rise as high as possible. Which would then require players to buy CE with cash, and thus give them more funds to continue to improve and promote the game on a global market. If CE is cheap (as in purchasing with crowns) then people will always buy CE with crowns and NEVER spend a dime on this game, which ultimately would be a bad thing.
Mon, 11/21/2011 - 13:05
#21
The price was originally at
The price was originally at 5.8-6.3k, not 5k. Its not that big of a difference, it's only an extra 1k CR, is that so bad?
Mon, 11/21/2011 - 14:01
#22
@Kraanx
-OK
Mon, 11/21/2011 - 14:20
#23
>.>
Ok so I really dont care
>.>
Ok so I really dont care what the CE price is at since im T3 and can sustain myself.
But if more complaints emerge, then forget about dropping CE price. If you're gonna whine about it and not ADAPT to the price like we have for EVERY update, then too bad, I'm gonna try to raise the price.
Problem? Umad?
Then go fix the problem, raise or lower the price. Complaining really gets nothing actually accomplished, only doing what will ideally benefit you or others or both will.
Take your pick, but I do hope the price climbs above 8k.
P.S
The last Petition to lower CE prices got about 100+ comments. out of those 2 people signed the petition.
You're fighting a losing battle so to speak.
~Xylka
Mon, 11/21/2011 - 16:28
#24
Everything about the CE
Everything about the CE market can easily be summed up with one sentence:
When something is controlled by players, everything goes to hell.
Mon, 11/21/2011 - 16:31
#25
Hmm...
Elevator Pass... I choose you!
Mon, 11/21/2011 - 17:33
#26
@Xylka-Mkii
-BIG FAT BASTARD!
Mon, 11/21/2011 - 17:40
#27
O_O
Crud. GM is on the way perhaps? ^^^^^^
Mon, 11/21/2011 - 17:44
#28
@Everyone
-I will stab everyone in the !$%
Mon, 11/21/2011 - 17:47
#29
-_-
^I deny knowledge of this person.
Now where's a report player button when you need it, hm? ^_- ?
Mon, 11/21/2011 - 17:49
#30
WHAAAAAAAAAA!
-YOU ARE ALL MEAN :(
Grievos - the dark source you're referring to would actually be the players. Players set the prices based on what other players are also willing to offer.
One factor is certainly the new elevator passes, but I'm not sure if those are in as widespread of use as some think. (Though really, they should be!)