They really do need to make it either a heavy sword like troika, or a striker sword, or even a medium sword like Leviathan.
So far all the strikers, every last one is Normal. How about some shadow or elemental or piercing? how about a status effect BESIDES poison?
In fact, they should have leviathan branches for different statuses. the same charge attack as FoV, but with shock, poison, freeze....like the mecha knights have!
FoV blows.
But it looks awesome, and it burns JK into the ground. So get it. Because: Why not? FSC is easy, and profitable. Very profitable, and the alternative is 40K CR, a crest, or junky armor. So why not just get it and run FSC more anyway... use it for kicks in random parties, and on JK. Be a completionist.
Even so, the time you take to slash 3 times a Brandish can already charge and activate 6 explosions which have the same chance, except the FoV is less safe and only 3 while the brandish has more range and is up to 6 (hit and 5 explosions.
I wouldn't even bother using the FoV on RJ except for laughs. By the time you get it, you probably already have every single boss reward. Especially know that RJ is so much easier.
Would it work any good at Vanaduke or the other bosses, or does Levi work just was well?
works wonders on the Vana mask phase but levi is just as good
Now that I actually have a FoV and have been usin' it a bit (albeit in a confined circumstance) I'd like to chime in.
People complain that it's slow, and has 3 swings; worst of both world?
Personally, I'm seeing it as the best of both worlds. It's a heavy hitting sword that lets you get 3 swings, and mitigates that painful CD after the last attack that the troika lines have. It's also not easily interruptable like the troika line, and has a nice three swings, while still dealing damage overall comparable to the 2swing swords.
Maybe it's just my asi:med UV, but I honestly can't say that only a med changes things /that/ much, especially when a lot of users of it use Vog Cub while totals up at higher speeds.
The fire also is afflictable on every swing, unlike the 2swing swords which only cause their status on the second swing, so it's very possible to shield-cancel and abuse fire-spamming enemies that way, especially since the chance of causing it is fairly high. Odds are that in a 3-swing combo, something will catch fire. It's also great fun to set drones on fire.
I think everyone's already pretty much said that the charge attack is amazing and..it is. The chance of self-fire isn't that bad either I'd say. Less than 50/50, imo.
tl;dr? I think it's a bit better than people make it out to be, I totally love my new FoV.
Darkbrady, the guild Lancer Knightz has been collecting damage-per-second data here. You can see that FoV's regular attacks are just not great. I mean, they are neither fast nor heavy-hitting. Of course, setting things on fire is an advantage, and the charge attack is a different story.
Hey, I'm not saying it's amazing, I'm saying that I'm finding it to be better than the common consensus.
However, dps rates alone are tricky to consider. Combos per minute/second are one thing to look at one paper, but application changes things. For example, 2-swing heavy swords are easily interruptable, and getting the second swing in is trickier; a full combo spam is not as likely, not desirable with the CD after the second swing.
Fast 3-swing swords hit light and fast, but may need a second combo to finish the job; the second half of that combo may be redundant, only needing one swing. It's easy to land three hits of, say a Dread Venom in, and need a fourth hit to kill, whereas a FoV may swing slower, but kill in the second hit, allowing you to move on.
Then taking into account things like movement, healers etc...
I'm not saying that the numbers are bad, but deciding on a weapons reliability or effectiveness based on dps, when there's so much else to consider is too heavy-handed. It's fine in point-click MMOs where dps is everything, but when timing, movement, shield-cancelling, healers and status effects come into play, there's too many mitigations. I can go around and swing at things once, let them catch on fire, then attack something else while the fire kills them behind me. An otherwise better dps sword would have to hang around and actually finish off the kill, putting them at more time spent per single mob.
Asking about the overall usefulness of a weapon, I couldn't ever suggest it based entirely on numbers like that alone. Saying that, I was just giving my short-lived experience with it. I am at an advantage, having max! damage on half the enemies I encounter in the gates I've been running, and having bombs to back me up, but as things are going so far, I was expecting it to be near useless outside of JKs room based on people's voiced opinions, whereas I'm making plenty of use out of it, despite having a bomber loadout.
Darkbrady, I certainly agree that DPS is not everything, especially since one can only rarely achieve the theoretical maximum DPS. And I certainly agree that setting enemies on fire is nice (except for oilers of course).
However, please note that each hit of a Combuster/Voltedge/Glacius does more damage than the corresponding hit of a FoV. That is, these swords are better on a per-hit basis, and deliver their hits faster. This is why, on a per-combo or per-second basis, they are not just better, but *dramatically* better, than FoV.
So it's not a bad weapon, but other swords do a better job.
There's a difference between saying X is total crap vs saying X is bad compared to Y and i guess we are guilty of that.
Yeah, that much can't really be argued, but I suppose I'm looking at the thnigs that the brandishes don't have.
Sayin' that, my main point is really just down to what Juances said; it comes off as being utterly useless in every situation ever becasue of peoples opinions (likely because of comparitives to their favoured weapons), but I was just wanting to comment that it's not half as bad as it's made out.
The damage isn't that much lower at all, only slightly, and I think that this slight damage drop is made up for by the high liklihood of strong fire, which in itself makes up the difference in raw damage loss.
All I'm really sayin' is to not discount it as an option entirely, just because people prefer other things. I quite enjoy my new FoV.
That is, until I come across an oiler ambush and realise it's the only sword I have *tear*
I call it the jelly king, now more than ever since we have an ice queen
that aside
i would love to see the fang of vogs normal attack become that of an Elemental Cutter, And Make Shadow version as well where your at it
I love my DVS and i always will, and the day they make a shadow or elemental Cutter style sword is the day i say OOO take all my money
and throw my wallet at my laptop