Some people say: "Devs, stop reading only titles. Read threads' actual content." :/ sry

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The-Rawrcake's picture
The-Rawrcake

Wake up!

The suggestions forums have been claimed over and over that the titles are all that count with not enough action from the devs. The titles are the reason we have been given a survey about pets, discussed in this thread: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/38623

What is worse, is that you cannot post a suggestion in, say, the general discussion where devs are active in because you will have other players upset that it is not in the suggestion forums. The big problem is that someone saying "Move this to the Suggestion thread" basically means "Move this to the Graveyard"

What if a suggestion was to be posted in the General Discussion?

Look here: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/4314 this person utilized a suggestion in the general discussion. Luckily, it had quick support so it lived. And you can see how well it went over.

and look at the activity of this "suggestion" (in a way) thread: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/39256

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Here is a number of quotes related to the suggestion forums which I all agree with. Sorry I have to include names so they're easy to find if searched, all copy/pasted:

Orangeo: "those great, little suggestions I've seen? Like tabbed chat? Ignoring people in the fourms? Becuase there's ussualy only one of those suggestions at a time. All the delinquents that spam post are the ones that actuualy seem to get through to OOO."

Happyapathy: "This is not a suggestion, I'm pointing out that nothing that has been suggested has had any action taken on them."

Blue-Phaze: "I heard they do look at the titles, but only get to read threads about "popular" themes (like pets)
If you want their attention, you should get more people to talk about this or at least make this stay on the first page for some weeks..."

Holonimbus: "Im not sure if they actually look inside topics - it kinda seems that they mostly just skim thru topic names, and may only actually check in them every once in a (long/very occasional) while :/"

Tuhui: "This is a test to see if the GMs actualy check the suggestion threads, i know that this does not belong under suggestions but i need it to be here to test this. I also know that they might not decide to post on this thread, but it's worth a shot. One thing i've noticed that even though this is a suggestion section of forums the stuff that gets posted here, wether it has one comment or 200 comments, does not get a comment by the GMs."

Nacho: "All they do is check the the titles and see whats the most repeated. Wonder why we got a survery about pets? So they will just look at the title of this thread and be like meh."

Asukalanforum: "They would rather answer in completly useless spam thread like some silly story, or fun thread not related to game, than in actual important topic containing important suggestions about game."

Kalaina-Elderfall: "Why you not read suggestions OOO? =["

Aemicus: "THEY WON'T READ THIS BECAUSE OF THE TITLE!"
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I just think that there is support in all the wrong places / the wrong ways, and we would really really like it if the suggestion forums mattered :,(

Blue-Phaze's picture
Blue-Phaze
I really don't mind having my

I really don't mind having my name there.
Actually, I appreciate your effort ^^

btw, you should change title to something more straight to the point, like:
"Devs, stop reading only titles. Read threads' actual content."

Nacho's picture
Nacho
Nacho is on your post...

Nacho is on your post... BAM!! Nacho rocks

Blue-Phaze is right, change the title to something like: "Devs spend all the day smelling their armpits and other stinky body areas and not actually making new content... FART"

The-Rawrcake's picture
The-Rawrcake
New title, I think it is

New title, I think it is clever. But that's just me. If you think it was stupid, please tell me and I will remove it >.> I have to be nice so no meanie titles :(

Blue-Phaze's picture
Blue-Phaze
@Nacho +1 Yep, that would

@Nacho +1
Yep, that would definitely call out for their attention.

Aurablaze
they better look at this

a thread like this CANNOT be ignored!

Blue-Phaze's picture
Blue-Phaze
Hey, Rawrcake, remember they

Hey, Rawrcake, remember they only read thread titles. This isn't really telling the devs anything '-'
If you want them to read threads' content, you should tell them through your title.
Nice try though *giggles*

Nacho's picture
Nacho
My title is better :-l

My title is better :-l

The-Rawrcake's picture
The-Rawrcake
lol nacho yeah not sure if I

lol nacho yeah not sure if I would do that, I have an issue where I promised to be nice so maybe if I use one of ur names and quotes? I would still be being nice as I promised, I'm on like spiral probation

Blue-Phaze's picture
Blue-Phaze
lol spiral probation? Have

lol spiral probation? Have you done something bad, Cake?
You naughty boy =P

Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
.....

He's a CAKE

Don'matter if he's a Rawrcake, he is a cake nevertheless.

"The cake is a lie."

THEREFORE HE=LIE

Nacho's picture
Nacho
Lol you shouldnt quote on the

Lol you shouldnt quote on the title hahaha
I dont think Blue-Phase gets mad at you if you dont say his name.

Holonimbus's picture
Holonimbus
What Dark Ritual?

Yeeee, I've been quoted! ^0^
Anyways, hes probably just on probation for raging at the devs for being ignored - hence this thread :P
But seriously, ima ragestomp on their (SK avatar's) faces if they seriously don't even read this - maybe include in the title somethin about them having to read this? Might make it a little too long tho :/
BTW, the suggestion forums are where I spend my time not actually playing SK - just because there is so much creativity and new ideas being injected all the time here, and I would be really disappointed to find out that, like in Asukalan's quote, that the GMs spend more time in the Treasure Vault then they do here ;((((
(Although I understand that the GMs are all already quite busy, and have a whole lot of sections to check, I'm pretty sure we'd all really really appreciate it if they would actually show some feedback for what we've said, as is often stated throughout this forum)

The-Rawrcake's picture
The-Rawrcake
What holo said and I changed

What holo said and I changed it to "some people say" so it doesn't put someone in the light or whatever that phrase is

Now I think this is better >.>

Kalaina-Elderfall's picture
Kalaina-Elderfall
I get the feeling that there

I get the feeling that there are people who do read our posts, but they just never say anything. The real issue is why the best suggestions and most commonly discussed problem fixes never seem to make it into the game. Either they really just don't read our posts, or the people reading the posts aren't the people who make decisions and the people who make the decisions aren't hearing about the things we want for whatever reason (for example, the people reading the posts focus only on the most common ideas, such as pets, rather than the most intelligently-presented ones). And the third option is that the things we want are just being added to the bottom of the "to implement" list and scheduled to see the light of day sometime in 2013.

None of these are good options.

Also, lol@my quote

Holonimbus's picture
Holonimbus
What Dark Ritual?

I agree with Kalaina-Elder, all the way...but we can still try =\

And why you lol at Kalaina's quote so much Colonimbus? =[
:P

Nacho's picture
Nacho
Suggestion Forum GM´s are a

Suggestion Forum GM´s are a myth

Tuhui's picture
Tuhui
One night i went through all

One night i went through all the pages on the suggestions forum and i think there was less than 10 threads with a GM response, it was late and i was tired.

Blue-Phaze's picture
Blue-Phaze
I think GMs aren't allowed to

I think GMs aren't allowed to say anything unauthorized about the game because ppl might think they are considering or even approving whatever thread they comment into.
But, yeah, I think they comment to little too.