I've rarely met people like that, though that is pretty immature

Gunners can get kind of annoying when you're fighting gremlins or wolvers because they dodge bullets easily. But since you had a Magnus, it wouldn't have mattered since it's too fast to dodge, although RJP has neither of them... Either way, that knight was just being a brat, ignore him/her and keep on gun-slinging, I really don't see enough gunslingers. And now this tempts me to leave my Gran Faust the next time i go to RJP and gun-sling instead.

I mean, swords slash, guns pierce and bombs explode.

I say there's nothing wrong with being a gunner, but it's always best to have alternative weapons in case you come across pierce-resistant monsters like jellies, or monsters that evade your gunfire.

Shield bump can save you from crowds no matter what weapon you pick.

Gunners are arguably in a better position than swordsmen, sure those idiots can laugh if you bring guns, but it'll be them getting killed in close range combat and not you.

There's nothing wrong with being a gunner, except that the armors' stats suck.

Gunners are arguably in a better position than swordsmen, sure those idiots can laugh if you bring guns, but it'll be them getting killed in close range combat and not you.
Thats the problem. Gunslingers contribute less to the team damage than any other class (bad ones even have negative dps because they reduce damage of the others using polaris), often have an easier time than the other players and might get more heat out of it than the rest as "reward" for the problems they are causing.

A good gunslinger can be a very useful addition to a low - medium skill team. It's almost like having multiple extra "support players", one for each other team member... interrupting mobs in 1-2 places while shieldcancel-bumping them in a third place. In a really good team... not so much.

He then proceeded to tell me to go get a real weapon a.k.a a sword.
Yes, get one. You don't have to use it. But you can if you find yourself in a situation where it's considerably more effective than your guns. Actually, that might happen quite often. "Hybrids" are always way more effective, not matter what "main weapons". Feel free to return the favour by complaining to your swordie if he carries neither an "offhand" gun nor a bomb.

I think they're horrible at guns that they don't see the point of anyone else having one.

Which I don't, because I'm learning to pulsarspam. Won't be useful in RJP, but might go into the clockworks with the 2 pulsars one day.

My basic setup includes Archron, Divine Avenger, Ferrous Flamebrige and depending on the situation Setenza, Argent Peacemaker or Antigua[In hopes that OOO will make a solo piercing version of it]
But I wold not be caught dead, well maby that would be the only time I'd be caught with out a gun.
And some situations just call for a bomb like shiver is a god send when soloing or a two man team. Tho I do believe bombs and guns need a serous buff

There is nothing bad with being a gunner, unless you are doing a couple of things wrong. These are:

1) Polaris spam. Omg that just hurts my eyes and my ears. There are parts in the game when Polaris is really useful, like UFSC or SL Twins, but why use it everywhere? I met so many gunners wielding polaris, who didnt stop shooting throughout the whole run. First of all, if you are a swordsman, you have no idea what you are attacking because of the explotions, second - it pushes mobs around, so you often get hit when, for example, charging your sword, because u didnt expect a mob to be thrown at you from another corner of the room by some stupid Polaris :)

2) Shooting at mobs who have some protection vs gunners. Like for example: Mecha Knights or Wolves. I met many gunners who have been shooting at mechas, making them raise their shield, which resulted in an endless fight because only 1 bullet has been hitting them due to an activated shield. Or wolves - they just dodge the shots, which leads to swordsmen running aimlessly around the battlefield.

Besides that, a gunner can be a useful addition to the party, but being an all-round player is much better. For example, for FSC runs, i have DA + Blitz + Shiver, which means i can do everything and substitute every other player if something goes wrong.

I generally don't have a problem with any style of play, but I do get annoyed by people using some guns/bombs. I almost always start groups open to anyone, and you can't hate certain styles of play if you are going to let random people join.

I mostly have a problem if people shoot guns at wolvers (makes it impossible to hit them with my BTB) or mechas (they shield my sword swing right when I'm going to do massive damage), spam polaris ridiculously, especially when it is doing nothing, or if they are blindly using nitronomes sending lumbars flying across their screen taking out all their teammates.

So mostly, I just don't like annoying gameplay. Swords don't lend to annoying play quite as much since most people don't like the calibur series once they get into the game. But that charge can be just as annoying as the nitronome.

However, I love having a good bomber and/or gunner in my group because they can handle some things better or make some things a lot easier. I mean, I don't always carry a gun, so a gunner solves any problems running into hard to reach gun puppies. A good status bomber makes the whole fight easier, or if they have a vortex it just makes swordies lazy. I will say though, that I prefer if everyone carries at least 2 weapon types (especially if they have 4 slots), just so they can be useful in more situations.

Unfortunately, gunners are far too under powered right now. With no good attack+ armor it's hard to maximize dps. However, I have out dps'd a few swordies in my small time of being a full gunner (about a week of having full 5* stuff).
While I understand fully why some people don't like gunners (mainly Polaris spammers), you can't group them together. I carry a Polaris, but I find that my Storm driver's charge can one hit puppies and sometimes lumberers.

Also, it may not mean much, but I've only had one person mention me being full gunner, and it was a positive comment. Something like, "full gunner eh? I respect that"

I usually adjust how I play according to a teammate's tactics.

If they're a bomber spamming blast bombs (never happened before, but hypothetically), I'd go to the edge of the knockback radius and single out targets, or run with the bomber and make sure he's clear to move.

Something like that, and when I can. If I can't, I just leave them to it.

I'd sooner have a skilled gunner than an idiot swordsman, or an idiot of any kind. Sawkush is a fool for judging all gunners like that. Plenty of gunners are probably more valuable to their team than you are, sir. I've run with gunners who are brilliant and gunners who spam the hell out of polaris. I've run with bombers who I feel confident seeing with a nitronome, and I've run with bombers who can't handle shivermisting vanaduke. And I've run with swordsmen who do their job well, and swordsmen who rush in and get pummeled, wasting the health of the rest of us.

And for LD, gunners can be brilliant. I gun most of the time and it can be rewarding, especially when your teammates suit your play style (i.e. you have a good guardian to run around with).

The guy who mocked you is probably the kind of person who thinks getting the "best" gear makes you a good player and that's all there is to it.

@ Ufana on "Swords"
"Yes, get one. You don't have to use it. But you can if you find yourself in a situation where it's considerably more effective than your guns. Actually, that might happen quite often. "Hybrids" are always way more effective, not matter what "main weapons". Feel free to return the favour by complaining to your swordie if he carries neither an "offhand" gun nor a bomb."

My main loadout is 3 bombs and a gun. I generally leave the heavy hitting to others while I weaken large groups with statuses or blanket damage. I have no need for a sword, and I rarely die.

@ Paweu on "Rotten Community"
"Nice reason to kick someone from a party, just shows how rotten parts of this community are."

Better to kick him than have him sitting around pissing and moaning about the inferiority of guns/bombs when we're WAITING TO GET IN AN ARENA that could shift at any second! Also, I don't need scrub-ass swordies playing on my team that don't understand the intricacies or utility of bombs/guns.

He deserved what he got, you don't join someone else's party and then proceed to insult their loadout if it's a PERFECTLY VALID AND EFFECTIVE set, not to mention at the risk of missing an arena.

People like HIM are rotten, not the other way around. >.> Elitist.

Note that Fluffyfoxxie said "insult"

What if my opinion of you is some sort of looked down upon expletive and racial slur? I shouldn't receive a warning or ban, because it was a difference of opinion.

Guys...take a chill pill.

I don't think anyone was calling anyone a scrub ham before the swordie started calling out on supposedly inferior loadouts.

@Paweu

Anybody who automatically assumes and voices that ANY other weapon class is inferior to another is automatically a scrub, what's so hard to see about that?

I don't care if he really does think that, or if it really is true or not, if he'd have stayed quiet about it, all would have been fine. He was clearly trying to instigate something, and he was stalling our chance at an arena. Neither are acceptable, so he got the boot.

That's your prerogative, and you're right, it is not a competitive game, but I don't see why my clockwork experiences should be ruined by someone who's trying to put my friend and I down.

Though I don't see how I am stereotyping, bashing others' loadout without good reason is a pretty noob-ish thing to do, hence me calling him a scrub. >.>

Lock you party next time if you don't want to ruin your experience, your own fault for not locking it. You can't complain about random people joining your party when you just let them in. And yeah, eh. Noone is perfect, people can have some misconceptions so if you can't cope with that, lock your party.

"So why defend it?"
Why abuse power?

So i guess, anyone who has a different view from you is a troublesome individual, eh? Lock you party, seriously. Those troublesome individuals are everywhere.

I'd have booted the guy too. If you have a problem with the way I gear up or play, leave. If you don't want to leave, keep your mouth shut or risk being booted. Why the hell should anyone refrain from booting someone who's being rude and a nuisance?

So much power abuse, i bet OOO will make clockworks like lockdown; there will be no party leader and no kicking options, everyone will enjoy the game fully.

No, it means that this is the point of no return and you all are doomed.

No, it means that big brother is watching you all the time.