Spiral Knights - featured Auctions....i've noticed......time for steam mask..

featured Auctions....i've noticed......time for steam mask..

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Thu, 02/09/2012 - 00:55

Rommil

so. Featured Auctions. I've noticed, that you have had lots of prime bombhead masks. Featured Auctions. I have noticed you have not had any steam gasmasks. I have also noticed no groundbreaker armors and helmets.

I have come, featured auctions, to extend to you an olive branch. Howsabout, since you have listed numerous prime bombheads and lots of people have got them, and enjoyed them, and we are all pleased for this, howsabout you go ahead and give us a few groundbreaker sets and steam masks up next. It would be pretty exciting, ya know, pretty exciting for a brand new featured auction with brand new stuff up that we never even had a chance to see before!!

Oh featured Auctions, please do hear this request.

your dearest,

Rommil.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 01:23

Fallenafm

Nooooo do not ask for

Nooooo do not ask for groundbreaker, I like knowing who has been around, I don't want random people having it

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 01:36

Shennynerd

Yeah groundbreaker should

Yeah groundbreaker should definitely not be a featured. Parrying blades however...

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 01:56

Guyinshinyarmour

You *do* know that the Groundbreaker helmet has a lowercase beta on it, right? It's explicitly for beta players, and was awarded only to them.

The Prime bombhead masks were a bit of a debacle since they only gave codes to people who showed up at PAX, rather than asking for their knights name and binding one onto their character. As such, people who weren't at PAX got bombhead masks anyway, and they kinda lost their purpose. As such, you cannot conflate the Prime mask with Groundbreaker OR Steamworks mask.

Though I will say in your defence that the Spiral bombhead going for auction sets precedent. That was an item only given to select players with no way to transfer them to people who did not earn it. Damn you OOO for undercutting my argument. :|

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 02:30

Metagenic

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NO GROUNDBREAKER

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 02:33

Paweu

"beta" Nope, it was for

"beta"
Nope, it was for players who participated in the preview event which was no beta last time i checked.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 05:06

Merethif

Isn't the OP ironic? Or is my

Isn't the OP ironic? Or is my irony detector just over-sensible?

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 05:10

Buckdida

Groundbreaker sets are for

Groundbreaker sets are for beta/preview players only. There we *enough* complaints over the first gen Rose Sets. While the Rose sets may show up again, the Groundbreaker? No, no, and no. They're special, simple, and not even a costume piece- it's actual armor, even if it is only 1*. Heck, I joined in the steam release, and I disagree with handing that out via a featured auction!

Steam Knight mask, on the other hand, wouldn't be a bad idea. While easily accessible though playing on steam and inviting players, many players are not on steam, and some steam players have no friends left to invite with the increasing popularity of the game *cough* so a featured auction for the Steam Mask wouldn't be a bad idea.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 05:56

Hadn

These requests for items are

These requests for items are getting just a little bit silly. You can't have it all. Bombheads were a bit of a joke to start with.

I went out of my way to go on other Steam games to ask 5 people that had never played Spiral Knights to willingly start playing just to get the Steam Mask. Putting them up would make those who made the effort feel like their effort was for nothing.

As for the Groundbreaker that is also ridiculous, (Buckdida's comment goes here).

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 07:07

Vescrit

Hmm..

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 08:05

#10

Guyinshinyarmour

@Paweu
Semantics, at best. It was a pre-release build, known throughout all programming fields as a beta release. They could've called it a "cabbage stew event" and it would still be classified as a beta release. You also didn't explain what the hell the lowercase beta on the helmet is for. They didn't slap it on there for no goddamn reason.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 08:19

#11

Shidara

Yeah...

No Groundbreaker set. Though I would love to have it, just barely missing out on it, it wouldn't feel right when I truly wasn't a Beta-player.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 08:32

#12

Paweu

@Guyinshinyarmour

People who had joined as late as 5 days before the official launch got it too, you attach to it too much value. You can't really tell whos a beta player and who has joined those 5 days before the launch. Same as parrying blades for the preview event invites basically.
I'm all against putting it on AH, though, just don't like how everyone treats them.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 09:15

#13

Guyinshinyarmour

@Paweu
Oh, is that so? I had no idea they were given out for that too. Guess that waters down what the beta on the thing is for. -_-

OOO, y u make no sense? *Rage*

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 11:16

#14

Sternlock

Parrying blades, please.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 11:51

#15

Treizeknight

Steam Mask can still be

Both are terrible ideas, groundbreaker was already stated, but the Steam Mask can still be obtained, so there's no reason to put them up as a Featured Auction if you can still get it through normal means.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 11:53

#16

Vescrit

Can't get steam mask? ;-;

Can't get steam mask?

;-;

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 12:07

#17

Treizeknight

Register your game through steam. Invite 5 friends on your steam list who don' have spiral knights. Enjoy your steam hat. You also get a mini mist tank for every friend who is invited.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 12:55

#18

Tengu

I also vote for

I also vote for Groundbreaker.

Why? Simple. There's a lot of people who like to pin their attitudes to their stupid construction hat.

Put it all out there. The differentiation between old and new player should be quality of play. I've known at least one beta player who hasn't done Vanaduke...come on nao.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 13:30

#19

Chris

Paweu the preview event was

Paweu the preview event was the beta.

You now stand corrected.
Learn something new every day!

Do not release groundbreaker on featured OOO.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 13:45

#20

Pinkalike

._.

The title makes no sense.

"featured Auctions...." - Okay?

"i've noticed......" - Noticed what?

"time for steam mask.." - Wait what?

.____. Learn to spell.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 14:00

#21

Pawn

Hmmm

@Pinkalike, "learn to spell". That's a valuable and persuasive take on the topic. Your best contribution yet.

@Merethigh, "ironic". Yep, like rain on your wedding day.

@Chris, Not necessarily. Companies MUST do beta testing. I imagine this was more involved than a short preview event. You might be correct if you say the preview even was PART of the beta.

@Treizeknight, "terrible ideas". That's a matter of pure opinion. I happen to think both are great ideas (my opinion). Also, it has been well documented that steam integration makes the game more laggy, and (i believe) that it is non-reversible. I would like the mask without having to sacrifice gameplay, and opening myself up to all the hiccups that occur with patches and steam. If you don't know what i speak of, then search the forums, you'll see.

@Vescrit, "troll face". Excellent trollface crying jpeg. Out of curiosity, when does one give up being actually funny and decide "I will do what everyone else does even tho it is not funny and it is played and there is no originality left to mine here....etc etc tec". <--good news pinkalike, you can criticize my grammer!!!!

@Guyinshinyarmor, What's if they put a lowercase ah on the one from featured ah? :D

@Tengu. OMG don't have the opinion that you'd like to have a groundbreaker armor, they will hate you!! :D

For the record. I want groundbreaker armor too. Face it. It's a silly game, their are no sacred cows in spiral knights.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 14:08

#22

Nordlead

I'm all for groundbreaker

I'm all for groundbreaker armor on AH. Turn it into a costume (seriously, who would use it as armor anyways) and then sell it on AH. Yea, I'll never be able to afford it, but CE prices would plummet :-D (and yes, I've bought CE, but I get a lot more via cr then I've ever bought)

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 14:13

#23

Pinkalike

@Pawn

@Pawn, were you trying to be funny in some sort of [jacked] up way, just now? Cause you're not, nor are you insulting me, if that's what you're trying to do here.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 14:17

#24

Pepperonius

@pinkalike

you will notice there is nothing wrong with the spelling itself, only the syntax and grammar. As such, your 3rd point is moot.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 14:20

#25

Pinkalike

@@@

@Perronius, YES, exactly. I was just too lazy to edit my actual comment. Hehe, though you were one of the few to notice. I guess what I meant was "Learn to make some sense."

If that even make sense, xD

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 14:28

#26

Fallconn

FALCON PUNCH!

the ground breaker armor is a symbol that you were a beta tester...making that available for everyone would mix every one up :U

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 15:13

#27

Drastorm

This.. groundbreaker you speak of

At first I was against the idea of having groundbreaker put into the Auction House (an idea that has been expressed by the majority of who have posted here) but now after seeing a spiral bombhead mask in the Auction House(as first mentioned by Guyinshinyarmour) my mind has changed completely seeing as it clashes with the idea that the people who are against putting groundbreaker in the AH seem to share: Groundbreaker should only be for beta players.
Well my response to that is, as implied by Guyinshinyarmour, the last time I checked the description of the spiral bombhead mask it says "A mask commissioned by King Krogmo to celebrate the launch of Blast Network", this I got from the wiki which also says under the subsection "Vendors" say "Given by the Spiral Knights System upon completing a Blast Network match for a limited time (within the timespan of August 4th and 8th)." So there you have it, it pretty much shows what Pawn has said, "their are no sacred cows in spiral knights.", is more or less true.

Well... that is my opinion.

@Pawn: Thank you for a nice phrase, if I may call it that, that I can use ^^

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 15:30

#28

Tengu

oho! those bombheads are for

oho! those bombheads are for sale? I didn't know/care about that. Now I can be butthurt "chosen one" who has one and doesn't want anyone else to?

waitwaitwait, beta wasn't only 4 days long. The Spiral Bombhead mask is MORE treasured than the low-paid mining worker helmet!

I STRENUOUSLY OBJECT!

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 15:35

#29

Cyprux

Steam Masks are extremely

Steam Masks are extremely easy to get and help Three Rings acquire new players. Putting them as featured auction would hurt the company.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 15:56

#30

Wolfkit

Participating in the closed

Participating in the closed beta is on a bit of a different scale than playing BN during a 4 day period, you're right. The difference is that anyone could have created an account to play BN, while a closed beta isn't open to the general public, and is thus a tiny bit more exclusive.

Also, if you don't want to put up with Steam, then why would you want a costume that says you use Steam? Unless of course you want to rename it to "Hot Air Container"

Oh, and while the Spiral Bombhead may have been commission to celebrate that the launch of BN, the description never says anything about it only be given to players who played during that time. And don't forget wikis lie. In-game descriptions don't.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 16:01

#31

Hochspeyer

No.

As it was stated in several posts before: The Steam Knight Mask can still be obtained, no reason to ruin the STEAM Knight Mask by making it easier to obtain.(Not like it wasn't easy to obtain it before.)

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 16:22

#32

Blanky

I disagree with an actual

I disagree with an actual Groundbreaker Set being on the Featured Auctions. Although, as Pawn said, Rule 42 comes to play in here. Nothing is sacred.

Though, re-skins of the set, and the beta sign being taken off would be reasonable.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 16:23

#33

Treizeknight

@Pawn You're wanting it both

@Pawn

You're wanting it both ways is a shameful display. You either deal with steam and get the helmet you desire, or you don't and you don't get the helmet. It's pretty simple.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 16:32

#34

Guyinshinyarmour

@Pawn
That would be silly, and we may as well call it a different item. I wouldn't object to some swag item you could only get through the AH though (like scissors or purp/coral rose). My main point was that Groundbreaker was distributed to people who earned it with no chance of ever trading it to someone who didn't (unlike the Prime mask Rommil was using as an example). As such, their exclusivity was actually assured.

If you want to get technical, there's skins in Spiralspy for a normal hardhat anyway. Could just put it on the AH or something.

However, I still defer to the Spiral mask example. OOO will do this eventually. They've already shown their words is worth about as much as sand in a desert, which is a shame. At least when people flipped out over Rose items, I had figured they were gonna get a re-release eventually since it's a ce promo item thing. They weren't commemorative. Spiral and Groundbreaker, however? Yeah, not so much.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 18:21

#35

Rommil

how would you guys feel about:

"Breaker Armor"

its not groundbreaker, and doesn't feature the B for beta on it. But would look the same otherwise. Its a nice looking armor. We should all have a shot at the looks of it. They could rename it like they did true love lockets. If you guys wanted to, you can inspect and see that it is NOT groundbreaker armor. so you'll still know who was in beta and who wasn't.

i don't really see why any one cares so much about who happened to be in beta. Or why this is the one piece that a majority would want to be "Sacred." But i think a rename of the same thing would suffice. I don't really care to have the "Groundbreaker" status, as i wasn't a groundbreaker for the game. but i do want the cool looking armor with gold bands, and a mining helmet that matches.

Featured Auction house:
we have a satisfactory solution here :)
make it happen.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 18:28

#36

Iron-Volvametal

...

"its not groundbreaker, and doesn't feature the B for beta on it. But would look the same otherwise. Its a nice looking armor. We should all have a shot at the looks of it. They could rename it like they did true love lockets. If you guys wanted to, you can inspect and see that it is NOT groundbreaker armor. so you'll still know who was in beta and who wasn't."

So, it would look like Groundbreaker, but All Gray instead? Not Bad. Just make sure there's plenty of them to go Around at a reasonably fair Price. It is going to be a 1* Armor, right? Or just a Costume?

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 18:47

#37

Rommil

la la la

@ pinkalike: don't use the "F" word. This is a family friendly game with a min age requirement of 13 years old. They don't need to see you F-bombing people in an effort to convince them you aren't mad. Its uncalled for, against forum rules, and rude to boot.

@ NO DONT DO IT GUYS. ^^ above. I digress, and change my opinion. For all tense and purposes, yes, Groundbreaker armor should not now or ever be sold on AH or unbindable. But we should get a rename for it, so that the rest of us can have it as costume armor, or a chance at it as costume armor.

@ NO STEAM MASKS GUYS: I disagree with you guys 100%. Now stand back while i poke holes thru ur argument. #1. Its obtainable for free through steam, i don't think this makes it more absurd but less, the prospect of giving us the option to spend hard earned crowns on it. Like PAwn said, all i ever hear is steam players complaining about lag and how they randomly get locked out of the game when teh rest of us arent. I don't want that hassle. I should be able to enjoy SK how i want, and still have at least some options of steam masks.

#2. YEAH BUT I'M ON STEAM TO GET IT, YOU SHOULD TOO. Sorry Hadn, i agree with most your takes, but this one i don't. They already do steam masks as birdsong giveaways, to players who aren't on steam. So this is no foundation for an argument.
Working within the framework of auctions:

I am merely making requests within the framework of what nick said would be the featured auctions. Basically, next to nothing is off limits. anythign that knights may want, could be potentially put up. including first gen rose regalia, accessories we thot only in lockboxes, bombhead masks, and everythign else.

Lets all be civil, polite, thoughtful, and kind. Diplomacy is the velvet glove that covers the ironfist. Its important that we have intelligent and good conversations about this stuff. You know what? its only a matter of time before they end up putting this and everythign else on teh featured Auction house. I think we can all probably agree on that. wether we want it or not, OOO is going to do what they want, when they want. But by having brought up the discussion now, and us having a chance to (intelligently) talked it out, at least we can all agree that if they put them up, that they should not be groundbreaker, but a rename. And thus we will have accomplished something positive by talking about it.
(but not by dropping random F bombs, or acting like other people are not entitled to have opinion. or pretending our opinion is the only one that matters. or generally being a jerk to people. Nor does YES I AGREE. NO, NEVER, help any. at least post your thoughts as to what makes you feel that way.)

thanks to all who posted.

to clear up confusion to the title....
alright, the name of the thread was tongue and cheek and meant to be amusing. The only thing that is actually incorrect about the grammer or syntax is the way i used my dots. it shouldnt' be "....." it should be (Space).(space).(space).(space). Such as: hi guys . . . and then . . . but then . . . and all was okay. The dots represent that we are omitting parts of the sentence/paragraph.

So in the title, i am talking to teh featued Auctions directly, as if it were a person. I state, "so featured auctions" giving it a human like quality, then i ...... forward to "i have noticed" then jump forward (past what i have noticed, that they do lots of prime bombhead masks) to the conclusion of my request "time for steam masks."

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 18:49

#38

Rommil

@iron skullkid

i'd ask that it looked just like ground breaker (except the helm would not have a B on it). Much like the penta heart vs true love locket, you'd have to inspect to see the difference. But a different name and description would suffice.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 20:10

#39

Treizeknight

To people who want steam mask

To people who want steam mask without going on steam - as I said before, you can't have it both ways, you either deal with the s**tburger that steam is and get your mask, or you don't.

Also if you're on steam, how did you NOT get the mask? Just find 5 friends who haven't installed the game, spam them invites until they do play. Save yourself the 100k+ it'll cost to get it through the AH. If you don't have friends, play other games and friend them or something.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 22:06

#40

Rommil

@ treize

thats not true. plenty of non steam users have gotten masks through birdsong giveaway.

Plus, thats not a very good attitude about it. to be like "oh, im on steam and it sucks, so you should have to endure the same suckiness if you want the same thing." thats just flawed logic. [not saying this is your take. sounds like it is, but i'm not saying that it is] Better logic would be: they should fix any steam so that it doesn't suck. They should fix it so that no one would intentionally avoid it for fear of being a worse experience.

But i guess misery loves company.

edit: oh and, i lol'd at spam 5 friends til they join. Doesn't sound like the kind of "friend" i'd want to have IF I WAS ON STEAM. (or the kind of activity i'd force upon my "friends.")

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 22:32

#41

Evangalise

Are you serious

To the OP.
You know, I don't even play anymore but I do come on sometimes just to see if 3 rings is bringing any new content in. When I saw this I couldn't believe it!

What is wrong with you. You saw something that YOU couldn't have and decided you HAD to have it. No just NO. This was a set was given to beta testers. Does it make them special? YES! Deal with it! So now that you opened your big fat mouth about it I bet 3 rings will do it too. Your a stupid fu%#

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 22:41

#42

Rommil

@ evangalize

lol. That seems a reasonable and well thought out response.

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 23:19

#43

Fehzor

I fail to see why you guys

I fail to see why you guys object so much to items like groundbreaker being featured. I know you want to be unique, but...

And why don't you people object to the steam mask? *GASP!* Steam mask? Preposterous! That is a special item for people who use steam, and should be limited to people who joined around steam release! No one else should get it! -I'm totally cool with people having the steam mask, despite the fact that I joined during that "era" of the game, and haven't suggested limiting that to having been a one month give away. Its a nice model, and should be kept open to the playerbase, as I like to see on occasion.

Not all that many people object to the groundbreaker being sold anyway... it just looks that way, because its heavily biased toward the people whom use the forums, many of which were beta players. I've already made the argument that GROUNDBREAKER CAN BE BOUGHT from players willing to give up their accounts for money, or items, and isn't some kind of sacred object. Whether an account was existent during beta shouldn't be important anyway; we should all be equal. Now do us a favor and put it up on AH already; hurt the elitist players that would have you make them 'special'.

Thats my 2 cents.

Fri, 02/10/2012 - 01:09

#44

Rubyeclipse

Groundbreaker should not be

Groundbreaker should not be added to featured auctions. It holds value because it cannot be obtained, sold, or traded - and because it symbolizes those players who were around in the beta. To put it on the AH betrays the key thing that gives the armor significance.

To the poster saying 'everything should be equal and fair' - MMO's typically don't intend for everyone to have equal access to any item they want at anytime. That's the whole point of rare or exclusive items. Even Spiral Knights, which is a world built largely on CE opening (almost) all doors, still has a few exceptions - and that's a good thing. I'm happy that Groundbreaker hasn't shown up yet, and hope it will remain that way!

Fri, 02/10/2012 - 01:32

#45

Erridunno

Great idea Rommil but u

Great idea Rommil but u forgot to add the 1 thing everyone wants... SCRAP METAL!

Fri, 02/10/2012 - 01:35

#46

Psychodestroyer

....

True.

I don't think Groundbreaker should be sold on the AH as featured auctions.

Spiral bombheads don't count; they were like limited edition bombheads, true, but their description never said anything about them being special in any way, not even as limited edition/special event items.

Groundbreaker on the other hand are stated as being worn by the first delvers of the clockworks, specifically preview players.

Check the wiki page if you need confirmation.

And I was never a preview player.

Fri, 02/10/2012 - 02:12

#47

Hadn

@Rommil Well then, they

@Rommil Well then, they already have another way for you to obtain the mask so why feel the need to put them up in the Featured Auctions? If the Steam Mask is still obtainable (which it is) then there isn't a point for them to be in auctions.

Yes many non-steam users would like the helm, but no one can have it all. If there was a "Client Helm" I wouldn't feel the need to have it in featured auctions.

Fri, 02/10/2012 - 03:22

#48

Divine-Neko

Nya.

Well as i see it the ground break should be kept out of the ah. but why not put a recolor on it like you know the ground break it colored like the hatchet[yellow orange] but this new set should be colored like the heavy hatchet[reddish orange]. And i'm all for steam masks being ah, because i refuse to steam bind!

Fri, 02/10/2012 - 04:21

#49

Guyinshinyarmour

@Fehzor
If you sell your account and OOO finds out, you will get BANNED. It's like that for just about any MMO I've ever seen.
_________________

@Psychodestroyer
Concerning Spiral mask:
You know, except for the part that they were commissioned to celebrate the release of Blast Network. That kinda implies they would only be released at it's launch.
_________________

I'm kinda sick of the "nothing sacred" thing people are spewing. Tell me, should OOO release the GM kit? If not, why not? It's something we can't have and I must have everything, whiiine. I swear...

There are items that are released to some people, but not others. All the money in the world won't buy you it. Deal with it.

...Well, that would hold true if OOO had integrity. Shame they likely don't, since they've managed to set precedent. They want to show their word is worth anything? Then tell us they'll never release Groundbreaker. Go on OOO, what's the worst that could happen? You go back on your word? Not like we can hold you to it. :p

Fri, 02/10/2012 - 04:31

#50

Pawn

@ Hadn

Lol. I (like rommil) usually agree with you, but i disagree here. I laughed when you said, "If the Steam Mask is still obtainable (which it is) then there isn't a point for them to be in auctions". <---i thought that was hilarious just cause it made little sense. Prism halos, all tails, all (non dragon) wings, tabards, and basically everything else on the featured auctions are still obtainable and thus, by that sentence, shouldn't be on the auction house. That is gonna be one bleak featured AH.

:) No hard feelings!!! Don't ingame unfriend me for disagreeing lol.

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