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What is wrong with everyone...

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Thu, 03/15/2012 - 13:17

Xylka-Mkii

This rage has been going on for about 3 weeks (or thats what itfeels like this time around)

And this time its endlessly tranferring. First P2P vs F2P with expansion pack, then CE rage (who didn't see that coming), and now rage over mere reboots.
I thought it was gonna end quickly, hence this thread:
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/45721
but then you guys never stopped, and now its getting to me as well.

I am this close:

[--]

From Slamming my laptop screen down and punching a hole in the wall.

And as a serious request, I'm not kidding in the slightest, make a rage forum for us, since clearly we can't get through little changes nowadays.

Who else is hating the hate with me,because now its just rediculous.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 13:20

Softhead

ME TOO!

I never cared about Expansions, even though I'm F2P.

The CE, eh. I'm waiting it out.

RAGE FOURM!

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 13:23

Bluescreenofdeath

er... I thought the whole SK

er... I thought the whole SK form was just a rage forum (by the way you misspelled forum Atrum)

ER... I MEAN. I THOUGHT THE WHOLE SK FORUM WAS JUST A RAGE FORUM...

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 13:29

Xylka-Mkii

To everyone still raging over

To everyone still raging over CE or P2P vs F2p...

this is all I can say.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 13:36

Asukalan

*.* RAGE FORUM

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/085/444/1282786204310.jpg

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 13:39

Oceanprince

Hey

Let's do an Occupy SK movement. We won't do anything but sit in Haven until our demands are met.

Seriously, I don't get all the complaints about prices. Can't afford 7K+ prices? Get to work on earning the CR to pay for it.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 13:42

Xylka-Mkii

Never. Ever. Suggest to

Never.
Ever.
Suggest to occupy.

All you're doing is idleing in haven. O WAIT that's what we do every day for half of our time online.

And yeah, if you cant earn the cr for CE, no matter how long it takes,then go play a game without an economy.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 13:45

Extribble

Agreed, a "Rants" forum would be greatly appreciated. It'll let those who want to scream and cry about everything be able to do it in a corner with each other, without bothering the rest of the sane, intelligent forum community :D

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 13:47

Fehzor

I'd agree. 8K cr per 100 ce

I'd agree. 8K cr per 100 ce is perfectly fine. It cuts off all those annoying T2 players from getting anywhere without waiting forever, and lets us elite FSC players roll more uvs to kill duke faster.

I think that all content should be paid for, because CE is just not enough to make most people coming into this game leave without telling their friends.

We're going to need more energy sinks, more cr output for end game players, and more pay only content if we want to truly crush the F2Pers and the T2 community.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 13:53

Axonio

We should occupy our seats. And a "Rant" forum is the worst idea anyone can suggest.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 13:49

#10

Blanky

If OOO creates a "complaint"

If OOO creates a "complaint" or "issues" forum, people will start accusing them of not reading the forums. People will start making conspirasies like: "OOO doesn't listen to our complaints!"

Really, this sums everything up.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:14

#11

Extribble

@Blanky

That's why it should probably be labeled something along the lines of "Rants", so it's blatantly set as a forum for venting frustration. (Might also help control the fiend-nerf threads...)

If there are complaints about problems with the game, they belong in the Bug Reports section or the Suggestions forum, depending on what the specific issue is. Other junk such as threads made by people flat-out whining about every darn update should be thrown in this section, so the rest of us can ignore it if we choose to do so.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:16

#12

Grittle

i think i found where the

i think i found where the rage forum was suppose to be

*COUGH*suggestions*COUGH*

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:22

#13

No-Thanks

Zelda

i get it when people have opinions, but reading that [crap] again and again..man

yes send them elsewhere to bish around about every crap except themselves

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:36

#14

Magnicth

well,any other time i would

well,any other time i would agree with the making of a rage forum,but......*looks around to make sure there isnt anybody suspicious about* it would just turn into a troll forum.trolls love it when you rage......

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:39

#15

Xylka-Mkii

"We're going to need more

"We're going to need more energy sinks, more cr output for end game players, and more pay only content if we want to truly crush the F2Pers and the T2 community."

I'm not saying to separate or destroy the F2Pers. I just want everyone who won't shut up about the CE crisis and stuff, again and again to leave, and I think the best way is to just raise the price above 10k for once, just to make them finally ragequit.

After that we can fix the economy quite quickly, like we do after EVERY time this happens

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:55

#16

Blitzwingoo

Maybe people have a good

Maybe people have a good reason to rage this time around....did you think of that? Or maybe you just want to censor anything bad being said about SK because you believe your own opinions are the only one that's valid?

Frankly I'm quite surprised it's getting to the "fanboys" because I've always believed they must have endless tolerance for OOO's BS to keep defending their actions. That and most people who were angry with OOO either quit the game or given up on the forums. I know I check the forums less frequently these days and I'm even less motivated to waste my time writing a post. (Yeah I know, good riddens to me for contributing to the community).

If the rage is getting too much for you to the point of "punching a hole in the wall", maybe you should either quit the game or the forums too. Don't worry I'm sure there's "fanboys" with more tolerance than you to continue defending OOO, there always is.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:00

#17

Blitzwingoo

I hate to double post

I hate to double post but....

"I'm not saying to separate or destroy the F2Pers. I just want everyone who won't shut up about the CE crisis and stuff, again and again to leave, and I think the best way is to just raise the price above 10k for once, just to make them finally ragequit."

You think the best way to support the game and it's community is to force a segment of it's player base with differing opinions to yours to quit the game?!?! Bahahahahhaha!

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:17

#18

Aumir

Well, I think it isn't much

Well, I think it isn't much like "getting sick of people raging" but more like you are "getting sick of people raging to other players" and the kind of accusations people make.

We shouldn't be raging against p2p players because they are rising CE prices, we should be raging at OOO because they made crowns even more worthless with King of Ashes.
We shouldn't be raging against p2p players because they got an exclusive expansion, we should be raging at OOO because we still don't have any confirmation that the non-Steam f2p players will be able to play a continuation of the story.
We shouldn't be raging against f2p players because they leech off the system, we should be raging at OOO because they don't make true crownsinks or give an alternative to refill mist energy.

If we all stopped fighting each other and point to where we must, we would have much less rage threads, because for example when someone opens up a CE thread, people get to the OP throat with "uh, buy moar CE" (from the p2p who writes it or the f2p who is hungry for more CE), the thread becomes a mess and people then just open another where they can hope they will not be flamed. If that thread became a discussion where we talked about crownsinks, modifying levels so they give less crowns, etc... we would have a much more nice and clean forum.

But hey, this is the Internet, so I am daydreaming. People will always believe they are entitled to do or have something always and take the topics on a personal level, f2p and p2p alike. Elitists everywhere.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:25

#19

Xylka-Mkii

@Blitzwingoo "Maybe people

@Blitzwingoo

"Maybe people have a good reason to rage this time around....did you think of that?"

Yeah, I did think of that. And the reasons are EXACTLY THE SAME AS BEFORE. And JUST LIKE BEFORE, the price will settle.

"Don't worry I'm sure there's "fanboys" with more tolerance than you to continue defending OOO, there always is."
Hehehe... you see, I kinda hate the fact that OOO screws up quite a lot.

You clearly aren't getting what I mean. I am not supporting OOO, or backing them up right now. That's not even close to what this topic is about.

I agree, OOO does need to step up more and know when the economy is failing. If they did, they would have reduced the CR payout in FSC.
Yeah, OOO fails a lot, we get that. Yeah, a lot of people praise them for the things they deserve to be praised for. And yeah, people like OOO because they made a good game, but I think a LOT of us can agree that a pure playerbase economy is unstable.

What I'm saying has nothing to do with that, I just think that even if there IS a need to rage, which there clearly is, there's no need to spam the same posts about the same reasons why you need to rage.

It's fine to, we all rage at one point or another, and both you and I have just begun ranting here. I just think its plain out rediculous to beat the same point over and over and over again to show how angry the players are.

Just make 1 thread, and keep adding on to it.
NOT. HARD. TO DO.

Also:
"You think the best way to support the game and it's community is to force a segment of it's player base with differing opinions to yours to quit the game?!?! "

No, I don't. I think that:

1. These aren't even opinions anymore, its just greed, entitlement, and flat out belief of unfairness.
2. If #1 is obvious, then clearly were just spurting nonsense.
3. Continue to do that and guess what, its a negative influence to the community.
4. We don't need those influences.

You really seem to be conceited and thinking you have me read like a book.

@Aumir

"If that thread became a discussion where we talked about crownsinks, modifying levels so they give less crowns, etc... we would have a much more nice and clean forum."

And that's how it was before, but like I said, people cause their own mass hysteria when CE goes above a certain point, and for what? To tell everyone again? What will that do, its open information and common knowledge CE goes too high, and that OOO will not step in on the market. What is there to do? Dicuss it, find a solution, and move on. Apparently no one can get past the 'move on' part

And to finish this up, THIS HAPPENS EVERY TIME. Somehow, someway, OOO implements something that affects the energy market, and when it does, everyone either rages, repeatedly because they don't know how to deal with the change in price, or praises them for lowering the price via crownsinks.

Understand now?

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:33

#20

Myllakka

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I was sort of in the DLC-hate crowd for a week or so, and then it just got exhausting constantly yelling about it. I posted once or twice about my opinions, and then I stopped. I'm sort of impressed by how someone people can just keep going on like this--though it is getting irritating.

All the CE rage has been ooold ever since I saw my first one when I joined, so I'm just getting tired of people doing it over and over and OVER at this point.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:13

#21

Xylka-Mkii

^ Exactly what I mean, in

^ Exactly what I mean, in only 5 lines.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:25

#22

Trying-Too-Hard

Everyone wants to rage

I'll have to hand it to you Xylka. You sure know how to handle a bunch of rages in one thread.
Anyways, People seem to have lost their patience on trying make this game better and taking it all on, well everything. I would too if I weren't a cynic who lost all hope on miracles happening to this game.
Good Kuck spreading your message(s)!

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 18:52

#23

Blitzwingoo

@Xylka-Mkii

"I just think its plain out rediculous to beat the same point over and over and over again to show how angry the players are."

Is it the same points or somebody responding to the same mistakes OOO are making each time? Sure the rising CE prices may seem to be the same each time, but perhaps this time's high CE prices was caused by something different than the last time? Maybe the same points needs to be shouted out over and over again because OOO is that dense or deaf and doesn't get it or seem to care? Are you even sure that it's the same people creating the threads each time? Maybe it's a new person each time, finally frustrated to the point where they must say something....that person doesn't have a right to say something because it's been said before?

"Just make 1 thread, and keep adding on to it."

There's many threads that praise OOO, why don't they just make one thread to praise OOO and keep adding to it? It's ridiculous to expect only one thread, there's many different reasons to love/hate OOO just as there's many different people to create them at different times.

"...I think a LOT of us can agree that a pure playerbase economy is unstable"

What are you talking about? OOO's influence causes the economy to be unstable just as much or even more than the players. OOO sets all the rules.....if players were able to break the economy, it's because OOO set the rules enabling them to do it.

"You really seem to be conceited and thinking you have me read like a book."

I'm conceited? Yeah....I think your words speaks for themselves:

"I just want everyone who won't shut up about the CE crisis and stuff, again and again to leave, and I think the best way is to just raise the price above 10k for once, just to make them finally ragequit."

...

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 18:59

#24

Ranick

To be practical, this kind of

To be practical, this kind of bickering between blitzwing and xylka are what makes things so rancid in this community. So I say we all stop to sit down and eat a few delicious jellies and discuss things from calm view instead of {"derp OOO is ebil!!11!" "no ur stooit!!1!"} scenario.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 19:10

#25

Xairathan

Herp

Back when I was a wee 2* in the months of July... I tried to start a petition to lower CE prices! Guess how well it worked. That's right... NOT.

What I've learned is to just ignore them and hope they go away. /ignore is a nice feature, and trolling just adds icing to the cake. :D

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 19:28

#26

Kive

Occupy haven

all the mad people get into one haven. If we have enough people we could bust the server. Although that amount of people isnt going to happen

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 19:58

#27

Bromon

I See where you're coming from but...

Although I understand where you're coming from and what you mean, there is a certain nessecity to raging. It allows the community to express themselves simple as that. OOO broke an unofficial business model of F2P. People were mad. They voiced their opinions, rather rudely in some cases, and now the SK has a basic understanding of what the community feels like. I don't think people should just sit back and take something they don't like. Fight for it. Will it become a reality? Probably not (esp in the business world) but our thoughts are taken into consideration.

are you not doing the same thing, raging against the ragers?

At the same time, we do have to look a productivity. Masses of Multiple threads do absolutely nothing when we want answers, and its easy to see the mods are scrambling to appease as much of the community as they are permitted. I thought about making a Communtiy FAQ kinad thread but i never had time. I might go do it now though...

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