Man, I'd love to have an alchemer that induces sleep status.

Mouse, shouldn't you be on the Citadel selling information to Drell assassins?

I believe i made a topic about this a while back. here are some of the highlights of that thread (although it was more geared towards weapons..

Me-"My first, would be some sort of sleeping gas vaporizer. I think it would be an excellent support bomb in arenas as long as the chance of it inflicting the effect was decreased. Being able to stop a section of mobs to leave for later could essentially save your whole team. A Shards bomb with that same basic effect my not be bad ether

Another idea I had would essentially be a tranquilizer gun, either a branch off of the magnus, or a needle shot. A Basic shot wont really cause sleep that often, charge shot will. Simple as that

Finally, for my last idea, it would kinda be like a fraust, has a chance of sleeping your enemies but could also cause sleep to you (although I realize this would be insanely annoying)(Perhaps it could use the argument that it can suck the energy out of its wielder and targets?)"

me again - "I agree with the boss thing. It should not effect bosses but would b very helpful against mini bosses.

As far as mechanics, to avoid having "another freeze effect" you could give sleep weapons a minor chance to cause good or extreme sleep. Less frequent but instead of suspending a portion for a small bit of time, you are able to stop a small portion of mobs completely for a larger amount of time. It would allow you to set mini bosses of to the side or disable gun puppies while you take out the small fry. I do think allowing minor sleep to be afflicted on its suer might be a good way to counter it IF it were to become overpowered what ever the weapon might be.

Just as a side thought, Do you think we will ever receive mainly support weapons in general like something that would boost your teamates defense or something (I personally would like it, but don't see it happening or going with the style of spiral knights even)"

Yeriq - "I'm kinda leaning to no on the sleeping gas bomb or sword but yes to a tranquilizer gun but with 3 shots. The tranquilizer gun should have the slowest RPM in the game. RPM = rounds per minute.

As for the mechanics of sleep status, I would like that:

Does not affect bosses (but will afflict 1/3 of the time mini-bosses - if or when the game has mini-bosses).
Certain monster's are resistant to sleep status like workaholic devilites and machine constructs. The rest are not.
Sleep time based on resistance (1 to 6 secs?)
Heals about 1/4 the rate of smallest heart tile - I'm referring to the ones before the Snarbolax fight.
You will inflict double damage if you hit a sleeping target. The unfortunate target will wake up, of course."

Hmmnm- "Another idea:
a sleeping cutter line.
The cutter line is a very fun sword to use. It is popular even though it is useless in higher stratums and PVP. The charge attack is also pretty useless.
Even if the very skilled people use the cutter line, it is nearly impossible to finish the whole sword combo without taking damage.

Since enemies don't wake up unless if they are hit with something that makes them flinch/fall over, enemies that are put to sleep won't wake up until the cutter finishes its combo (and might stay asleep after the combo). Also, since sleeping enemies don't knock back, it will make the ghost swings hit more easily."

aemicus - "Healing, damage, and whether or not the affected enemy can attack. Think about it, just shoot Vanaduke with the tranq and he won't attack until you hit him, in exchange for a little healing. Can you imagine how cheap that would be? If they are frozen however, they can still attack, and the ice does damage. That's why I don't think it should affect bosses."