Spiral Knights - Binding UVs vs. Customer request vs. Unbinding Accessories.

Binding UVs vs. Customer request vs. Unbinding Accessories.

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Fri, 04/27/2012 - 20:14

Rommil

Okay. No more rage. Time to intellegently pursue other pursuits. [makes sense, right, i'm pursuing other pursuits]

So. By support ticket replies, forum posts, and other, OOO has very firmly stated that this binding of transmutable UVs was done because we, the player base requested it.

FINE. I don't like it, but its here now, and its not going anywhere. i'm over it.

So, lets move on to the next most requested (community wide) feature, new in game playable content not-withstanding.

Time to let us unbind accessories without destroying them. Sooo many have bound accessories to items then regretted it. No downside, only upside (from a community standpoint). If you really gave us the transmuting of UVs at rolling station because the player base wanted it (and not for a sketchy cash grab) then let us unbind accessories without killling them.

THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING EVERYONE HAS BEEN ASKING FOR1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111!!!!! AND MORE ONES AND EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!!!!11111!!!!!

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 20:17

Slayzz

And while OOO is at it, why

And while OOO is at it, why not look at the many other suggestions blatantly ignored? Some are actually decent.

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 20:25

Dukeplatypus

I don't know what OOO has up

I don't know what OOO has up their sleeve, but they do listen to the Suggestions. They (sorta) did pets, so I have a hunch that Snarby Gun is coming soon with those new weapons they promised.

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 20:32

Rommil

unbind costumes too

this is more requested than uv locking. for realz. make costumes unbindable. they now the % rates of drops. they can determine the cost of unbind accordingly.

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 20:35

The-Ark

Well, if they make costumes

Well, if they make costumes unbindable, they will have to make some sort of ranking system for them, because one set price for EVERY SiNGLE coatume wouldn't work. The differences in price are way to much. (compare non-sniped Stranger hats to Rose Chapeus).

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 20:38

Dukeplatypus

Well, unequipping and

Well, unequipping and unbinding accessories and costumes seem like a sure-fire way to obliterate two more potentially profitable markets, so it only seems like the next logical steps. Although, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't ever see any threads complaining about not being able to unequip accessories.

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 06:24

Exerpa

It would awesome if all the

It would awesome if all the one time use items (accessories, color/eye/height changers etc) were instead infinite use, or in other words you no longer 'dispose' of an item on use but rather unlock that particular feature. The next step to manage all those new potential arangements is to split the loadouts into two indepentant lists- one for gear and the other for costume.
When you think about it, if you could trivially switch between color/eye/height on each costume, then those functions would be accessories in their own right.

As for unbinding or reissuing costumes - some have said that this should not be allowed due to them being limited time offers. However has anyone complained about the AH featuring Love Auras? If they break the 'rules' for some items don't be surprised by anything that may happen in the future

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 08:25

Dukeplatypus

That's because Love Auras

That's because Love Auras were arguably the cheapest rare item promo that still had any demand (snipe hats, but not the other stranger hats). They were featured pretty shortly after the promote and it wasn't exactly like they were rare. The 1st gen regalia, however, are different because they came way before featured auctions and were known for their rarity.

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 08:12

Serell

I would love it so much if i

I would love it so much if i could just transfer my accessories to other itmes.
I am almost afraid to buy expensive accessories and decorate my helm, for what if a new, better looking helm comes out?
And this new helm is so much cooler than the one i have, and i want to use that as my costume?
Well that just sucks, means i wasted tons of crowns on my other helm.
But if there was some way to transfer accessories, that would be great.
Now i know if we could transfer accessories people would not buy more than 1 of the same accessory for different things, but there is a solution :
They can only be transferred a set number of times until they're destroyed. I say 3 times would be fair.

Now on the eyes. I am quite disappointed in those. It's sad that its only a one time use.
I know why they made it like this, they're trying to make money off people who change their minds a lot.
But they could make so much more money if they could be simply equipped on or off.
They're so expensive people are going to make themselves absolutely sure they like it better than all of the rest before they buy it.
Rich people aren't going to be sad one day and buy sad eyes and use them, and then the next day if they're happy they're not going back to the happy eyes they already had. It's a waste.
But if we can equip them on or off, rich people would want to buy all the eyes just to have them, and change their eyes according to their mood.
It would make players happy AND make OOO more money.

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 08:27

Juances

@Gingermace "compare non-sniped Stranger hats to Rose Chapeus"

A skolver with max pierce+max shock+max normal has the same unbind price than a plain Azure Helm :p

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 22:06

#10

Hexzyle

PROBLEMS: "Well, if they make

PROBLEMS:

"Well, if they make costumes unbindable, they will have to make some sort of ranking system for them, because one set price for EVERY SiNGLE coatume wouldn't work. The differences in price are way to much. (compare non-sniped Stranger hats to Rose Chapeus)."

" obliterate two more potentially profitable markets"

"As for unbinding or reissuing costumes - some have said that this should not be allowed due to them being limited time offers. However has anyone complained about the AH featuring Love Auras? If they break the 'rules' for some items don't be surprised by anything that may happen in the future"

SOLUTIONS

Use the search bar next time. Searching "bind accessories" gives that thread on the second result.

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 22:22

#11

Psychodestroyer

DING!

I just thought of something!

What if, you have the accessories, bound on use...but to the KNIGHT!

Okok, so it's like any other piece of gear! Once you use it, it becomes bound to YOU. You wanna switch, 'equip' it to the armour you want, and it detaches from the other armour.

When trading armour with an accessory on it, the accessory stays with YOU. It is detached from the armour when traded.

PROBLEM: Personally I don't think OOO would agree to it. The whole accessory deal is a pretty major cr/ce sink I think. Being able to interchange them (even with an unbind cost) will reduce whatever affect it has on the economy.

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 06:14

#12

Hexzyle

@Psychodestroyer

You didn't check my link, did you?

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 14:05

#13

Rommil

@ duke

They were here in spades after accessories were inserted into the game. But after all the threads were made and seemingly ignored, people slowly but surely stopped making them.

Just like people slowly but surely stopped making the transmute UV on the rolling station thread.

but, i'd be willing to bet that 75-80% of all players would say that given two choices
1. Accessories can be unbound without getting destroyed
2. Accessories are destroyed when you unbind them

i bet that a grand majority of all players would choose option #1.

Costume pieces would be more split, i am sure.

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 14:08

#14

Rommil

@ exerpa

Grand idea, on just making all 1 time use items an accessory to be reused.

I had suggested a long time ago to have a change color option that cost 150k in addition to the 50k one. 50k color change would be a 1 time color change. the 150k could be slotted into your color wheel, and you'd have infinite uses of the item.

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 14:17

#15

Fehzor

There is but one problem with

There is but one problem with this that I can forsee-

This being that it would allow us to trade any and all accessories that were given to us bound. With this, accessories being bound to the owner would not matter. To circumvent this, I would recommend making it so that items can not be traded with accessories on them, and that accessories taken off from an item be bound to the owner. That way, when I go to trade my bound dusky sideblade, I cannot profit off of it. Similarly, when I go to remove my aura from my wolver as it was a mistake to put it there, I cannot flood the market with auras alongside the other 20 saintly knights whom were disappointed with their choice of aura placement.

That being said, I like this idea- if I favor using my vanguard pin, I should not have to destroy it when I tire of looking at it.

Even if this does benefit "You the Rommil" far far more than "We the Knights", +1

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 14:19

#16

Serell

150k to be able to change

150k to be able to change into that color whenever you want? That sounds nice, rich people would want to buy all the colors just to have them and because they can.

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 21:23

#17

Psychodestroyer

@Hexzyle

I did.

To lazy to bump so far though. It was late and I was tired :P

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 21:34

#18

Fehzor

A color changer, you say?I'd

A color changer, you say?

I'd prefer it be made an upgrade that changed you into a specific colour multiple times.

For instance-
Indestructible Red Recolor
Indestructible Blue Recolor
etc.

That way, it'd cost 300K just to switch between two colors, 450K to switch between 3 colors, etc.

If it was a color wheel, I'd like to see it require crafting... that'd be interesting. An item that require one of each of the color upgrades to craft, that changed you into any color infinite times. If that came along, I'd love to see one for height and eye type too... well, not really for eye types, that'd limit the fun new eye types that I'm expecting as CE promotions.

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 00:55

#19

Tersakaff

Yeah I think it's time

Yeah I think it's time Bechamel stopped being clumsy and breaking the accessories when removing them. Silly, silly Bechamel, calls hi..he..itself a proper acceossorist but can't remove something without breaking it...

Also as someone said, if removing an accessory from a bound armor, the accessory would be bound too.