How about

"Lets not pay for energy!"

OOO goes - f**k it. We aint earning. Lets stop this game entirely

Then all of your complaints are heard. NO energy. NO game. :)

"I see some people saying that they're going to quit, and that's not a lie."
It's always a lie. Every time. Every time someone says "I'm gonna quit becuase I cant play all day long" I reply, no you're not, and then we have a long conversation, and then they go back to playing. Anyone who complains about the system just want's more money faster, and is probabaly in teir one, begging on the side of the auction house becuase they can't manage money.

It's not hard, you can just play ten levels, buy 100 CE, have some left over. You basicaly just converted 100 mist into 100 CE and got some crowns.
These threads are troll nests.

NESTS FOOLS! TROLLS LIVE IN THEM. THEY COME FROM TROLL EGGS!
*DrLequack has been banned for sexual harrasment*

And I don't regret spending my money. It has given me boosts in times of in-game financial crisis, and lets me play the game indefinitely.
Although buying energy from the player-driven market can be a pain, I put up with it. Not only because I play, but because everyone else has to put up with it as well.

Paying for the game is completely optional, thanks to the players with hundreds of thousands of Crystal Energy, sending it to the market. Be grateful that they are even bothering selling their energy for crowns, otherwise, you, too, would be spending real money on the game.

The only thing a cash purchase can give you in this game is more play-time, and extra resources for alchemy. That is it. Free players have to work harder to progress, but in return they can play for free. I may progress much, much faster than you, but I am a paying player. I bought my way ahead. You spend nada on the game, I pay. Is it fair? Yes. I get a slight advantage for my purchase, however, I don't get bonus content. We both play the full version of the game. Isn't that enough for you?

i like your idea! seriously aqworlds has better offers when it comes to USING REAL MONEY. just saying.

What he said^.

Who bumped this? :D

What is this I don't even know-
Stop bumping this please, for god's sake, it's a horrible idea to get rid of energy.
You can play the game indefinitely and profit as long as CE has a low enough price. Getting rid of energy is useless. It dosen't help us at all, and it royaly yucks three rings in the gass.

1. Bumping a necro thread. So no.

2. CE is the companies main form of income. You're asking them to not make any money at all? Altruism is great. This is a business. So double no.

3. You're asking for something this ludicrous in a FREE TO PLAY GAME. Stop being so entitled.

Can we get a Moderator to bury this thread in Graveyard please.

Guys guys, this is going NOWHERE!
I think getting rid of energy it to much, ( well..I don't like waiting much but, its a game...) and still, using 10 energy at a time on each elevator? That's too much too..

SO!

How about we just like ask them to REDUSE the Energy? Like depending on the Depth : Tier 1: 2 energy.. Tier 2: 4 energy... Tier 3: 6 energy?
How's that? You can still play this AWSOME FUN SUPER DUPER GAME...fora longer time and make for beginners much easier to proceed to upper lv's.
Also you won't be able to like win the game like in 1 hour or so.

Anyone agree to this?

Don't remove the energy system. I at least understand that's how Three Rings makes their money from this game.

Instead, sever Mist Energy from Crystal Energy. Mist Energy is now a separate entity, which can only be used to pay for gate access and activate things within the Clockworks. A new kind of drop would be introduced which is basically a blue colored HEAT orb, which restores Mist Energy, allowing players to continue to venture forward into the Clockworks without being restricted by a lack of energy (albeit probably at a very low drop rate - maybe for a run from subtown to subtown you would only net maybe 10-15 Mist Energy, 5-10 if you're not feeling generous).

Crafting and Item Upgrades would use Crystal Energy exclusively. They would no longer take from your Mist Energy reserves first. So you're given the option of grinding incessantly for the Crowns to buy the CE, or you can just buy them per usual from Three Rings with money. Players can play for as long as they want without worrying about running out of energy, and Three Rings still makes money.

Like most MMO's they have you pay. Some have you pay subscription fees, others have micro transactions. For example, you like to play WOW, then stop paying $15 that month and spend it on Spiral Knights and get 4,800CE. Lets say you like to play Runescape $5 a month, instead of paying that, pay $5 and get 1,600CE on Spiral Knights. Even TF2, substitute buying a key $2.50 with buying 750CE. If you want great content to be made for this game then Three Rings needs money, and letting players that like the game buy more CE to play more is perfect. Just like a Subscription fee. Even better then subscription fee, cause some people can play the entire game Tier 1-3 without paying money. If you want to experience the game in its entirety pay $5 a month that you would have spent on something else on Spiral Knights. I have found I can last a good while on 1,600CE alone.

Don't necro dead threads. Unless it's actually a good suggestion that should be bumped... which this is not.

it takes me ages to get enough mist energy and then i go down to the clockworks pwn monsters collect cr then i run out of energy, i need to save my crowns for equipment but i also need energy so i have to buy ce with my crowns and the whole process starts over again.

Who revived this troll thread? That's never gonna change trolls. That's like trying to make quake a third person game. Not gonna happen.

Take away mist energy, but keep crystal energy. That way, you don't have to wait, and you can still use CE as *points*. The *points* can be used to alchemize things and buy items that only game cards can get.
Problem solved,
Joseph

Alright guys, Ive been reading all your posts (at least the ones that had to do with the topic). I think (as my professional opinion) that taking the energy out would be a little radical. i love the idea. but, that's the way bigger companies are. they wont listen to anything you have to say. THEY DON'T CARE! at least till there "gamer" rate drops hellishly. but to reduce the time of energy regeneration from 0-100ce in 22 hours to 0-100ce in like 5,6, even 7 hours would make allot of people more happy. personally, even i would not lift the energy limitations. that is there main, if not only money income (beyond sponsors and adds etc.) but i say that full regeneration in 2 hours would be cool. i also think that there should be permanent purchases that allows you to hold like 50 more Ce and still regenerate in the same time as a regular person that only holds 100ce total. you may think that that is overboard but say for like reviving and such. you can "get more for your money" shall i say. in a lump some. Reduce Energy regeneration drastically.

Thanks if you read the whole post open minded.
- Sincerely Shadow-Lw

-EDIT
Also. ThetaSynergy. i love the idea. =D

Nice job Necro-ing...
@Delta-Heavy
How'd you get that name? DON'T COPY ME!

My opinion is that they should AT LEAST make the recharge rate a bit higher say: 2-3 minutes. And if they really can't do that then I would just add in game adds. seriously nobody wants to wait a frickin 25 hours (do the math) just to play 10 rounds. Thats like 30 minutes of play time if you're not taking BIG breaks to go to something like the "advanced training hall" or whatever. And would somebody tell me one time when they actually payed real money for energy. So like I said before, just put in adds and AT LEAST reduce the recharge time. !!!!!WHO HAS EVER PAYED WITH A CREDIT CARD!!!!

But first, a full charge takes 22 hours. 13.2 mins approx per 1me. so I wait 22 hours to do a 10 depth run.

And lots of people pay for this game. Go look for them.

And I play for 2 hours give or take 30mins no-breaks on 80 mist. The 20 is for whatever else.

Now let this die.

Doh

The heck? Who revived this? Leave the noobs on the ground and kill vannaduke yourself.

(Sigh) Why don't we just make this game a paid game? You buy it for $30, then can play infinitely afterwards? That way there'll be no freeloading idiots complaining about why they aren't getting the entire game, that costs MONEY to MAINTIN and DEVELOP for free.

This is actually just as terrible as the first post, because it's essentially a rewrite of it.
RESULT?:

People in T3 rake in the cash, raise market prices, T1 new players have to grind for days and days in order to get one 2 star piece of equipment. Great idea, fools. Let's make this game only playable for the pros, and drive economy hard on the backs of the new players.

Seriously, if this thread becomes a year long affair, im leaving Spiral Knights for realsies.

lol

Can't an admin lock this thread? or at least graveyard the sucker?

Well u see every time i play Spiral Knights we always have to wait b4 we can play beacuse elevators need energy. i think u shouldn't put elevators powered by energy anymore. you can keep energy but its boring just to wait every 15 min for one energy. and plus u need 10 ENERGY to play one dungeon